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Post by alien_scream on Aug 2, 2005 18:51:02 GMT 8
Me personally, I don't get the hang of diets, I usually break it on the first day or so. Try Water therapy - two glasses of water before every meal except during breakfasts. Hope this helps. If that still fails - add beer at dinner time and then skip dinner (nothing after 6pm diet w/ beer) .. heheh yeah try drinking beer or gin instead on eating dinner!!!!! when your so drunk and throw up!!!! that's the time you lose weight!!!!!! JOKE!!!!!!
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Post by rob on Aug 2, 2005 18:51:05 GMT 8
every day? going to work?
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Post by allegra on Aug 2, 2005 21:15:33 GMT 8
atkins diet and you will still enjoy your biking, you won't feel weak. How do you do it pards? I tried removing carbs and eating more meat pero nawala endurance ko So 1:1 uli ratio ko BUT, if weight loss is your goal, mabilis nga makapayat
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Post by allegra on Aug 2, 2005 21:21:37 GMT 8
Yah, I agree with you guys,discipline in my diet is the key ,I trained pero I don't think nothing compared sa training ni boss allegra. Malakas kasi ako sa carbo eh and pork,kahit I try to eat lots of veggie and fish,pero yung carbo ko di ko binabawasan  yum yum Roxio,atkins diet?Si rowan atkins ba nag invent nyan ;D Mr Bean does look anorexic ;D I think the trick is to have a long term goal of losing weight, say 1-2 years Kasi kung masyado drastic ang diet/exercise dehins ka rin tatagal and you'll just guve up Mabuti na gradual ang improvent or you'll just find ways and reasons to quit
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Post by jr on Aug 2, 2005 21:30:03 GMT 8
atkins diet and you will still enjoy your biking, you won't feel weak. How do you do it pards? I tried removing carbs and eating more meat pero nawala endurance ko So 1:1 uli ratio ko BUT, if weight loss is your goal, mabilis nga makapayat Protein - 24 to 48 hours (1 to 2 days) to become fuel. This means slow going to your blood stream. Carb -(rice pasta, bread) is the best way to get a fast energy that will goes your blood strem within 12 hours. But again dont over eaten if you dont do lots of regerous exercise. I read on article that a 3 slice of bread is good enough provide a 1 hour exercise without any mix and if you mix with margarine (fat) takes longer. The best to lost weight is eat less exercise more. Just if you take 1500 calories a day make sure to burn 2000 ;D ;D ;D.
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Post by micosabeh on Aug 2, 2005 22:01:15 GMT 8
my prof in microbiology my tinuro smn on how to pumyat just for one month----- the answer: pure veggies ang kkainin: no carbo means no rice or even meat.. pero d ko kya un: NO rice and NO meat for one month?!!!! =( bike nlang aus pa un=)
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Post by hingal aso on Aug 2, 2005 22:10:08 GMT 8
Taken from arecent online news report.
"The company behind the Atkins Diet, standard bearer for the low-carbohydrate diet craze that put some bakeries and pasta makers out of business in its heyday, has itself filed for bankruptcy as U.S. consumers have tired of the once-sizzling fad."
Although there can be a lot of reasons for a company to fail...
Remeber that the founder of Atkins diet died in 2003, supposedly from complications of a heart problem. Not sure really if that is the cause, but rumours about it persists......my brad-in-law was deeply into Atkins diet during that time.
IMHO taking no or too little carbohydrates is not my idea of a BALANCED DIET.
For me, it is OK to eat everything you want and drink anything you want as long as it is in MODERATION.
Sayang naman kung dehins ka kakain ng SISIG at dehins makipag drinking session sa mga kabarkada. Basta may disiplina.
Too much of anything can be poison.
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Post by whoopi on Aug 2, 2005 22:38:02 GMT 8
what i heard about Atkins is: you can't totally go without carbo, your immunity system needs it. ako i try to eat little, but often ;D if you really want to get thin...fix a cup of coffee 45mins to 1 hr before your meal..mawawala gana mong kumain...works for me...swear. many of us got it the wrong way then, 'cause we drink coffee AFTER the meal na 
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Post by Ben Dover on Aug 3, 2005 11:54:18 GMT 8
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Post by allegra on Aug 10, 2005 14:11:19 GMT 8
From Firstwavetri egroups : From: "Anna Ria R.Vallesteros" <annaria@...> Date: Wed Aug 10, 2005 11:19 am Subject: WEIGHT LOSS : Eat Less or Exercise More avallesteros Send IM Send Email Sending interesting reading on weight loss. Ria All Athletes: Eat Less or Exercise More by Joe Friel Around the time of the Tour de France there are often questions about how an athlete should go about losing weight in order to climb better. There’s little doubt that being lighter means climbing faster. Pro cyclists who contend for the yellow jersey, the polka dot jersey or who need to support their team leader in the Alps and Pyrenees try to be lean by the time the terrain turns upward. The best climbers are generally less than 2 pounds of body weight for every inch of height (divide your weight in pounds by your height in inches to find this number). It’s rare to find a rider in the pro peloton at 2.5 pounds per inch or greater. A lot of them who are not climbing specialists are around 2.1 to 2.2. The latest average I have for the TdF field shows an average of 2.151 pounds per inch (thanks to Gregory Byerline for providing that data). Every pound of excess fat shaved from your body saves you about 3 watts in a climb. In running it is something like 2 seconds per mile per excess pound in a race. For most endurance athletes, a 1-point shift in weight-to-height ratio means about 5 percent loss of weight—around a 7- to 9-pound loss of love handles. That can be done safely over a two-month period if there is a big A-race with lots of climbing or the need to run faster on the calendar a couple of months from now. How is it best for an athlete to lose weight? Unfortunately, there have been few studies of serious athletes that looked at this question. One group of researchers, however, has examined the issue in an interesting way. They compared eating less to exercising more to see which was more effective in dropping excess body fat. They had six endurance-trained men create a 1,000-calorie-per-day deficit for seven days by either exercising more while maintaining their caloric intake, or by eating less while keeping exercise the same. With 1,000 calories of increased exercise daily—comparable to running an additional 8 miles or so each day—the men averaged 1.67 pounds of weight loss in a week. The subjects eating 1,000 fewer calories each day lost 4.75 pounds on average for the week. So, according to this study, the old adage that “a calorie is a calorie” doesn’t hold true. At least in the short term, restricting food intake appears to have a greater return on the scales than does increasing training workload. Notice that I said “on the scales.” The reduced-food-intake group in this study unfortunately lost a greater percentage of muscle mass than did the increased-exercise group. That is an ineffective way to lose weight. If the scales show you’re lighter, but you have less muscle to create power, the trade-off is not a good one. How can you reduce calories yet maintain muscle mass? Unfortunately, that question hasn’t been answered for athletes, but it has been for sedentary women. Perhaps the conclusions are still applicable to athletes. In 1994, Italian researchers had 25 women eat only 800 calories a day for 21 days. Ten ate a relatively high-protein and low-carbohydrate diet. Fifteen ate a low-protein and high-carbohydrate diet. Both were restricted to 20 percent of calories from fat. The two groups lost similar amounts of weight, but there was a significantly greater loss of muscle on the high-carbohydrate, low-protein diet. It appears that when calories are reduced to lose weight, which is more effective than increasing training workload, the protein content of the diet must be kept at near normal levels. This, of course, assumes that you’re eating adequate protein before starting the diet, which many athletes aren’t. When training hard, a quality source of protein should be included in every meal, especially when trying to lose weight. Joe Friel is president and founder of Ultrafit Associates and the author of the Training Bible book series. For more information on training, racing and coaching go to www.Ultrafit.com
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Post by jovellcheng on Aug 11, 2005 12:35:17 GMT 8
atkins diet and you will still enjoy your biking, you won't feel weak. How do you do it pards? I tried removing carbs and eating more meat pero nawala endurance ko So 1:1 uli ratio ko BUT, if weight loss is your goal, mabilis nga makapayat [glow=yellow,10,300]You should not starve yourself of carbs Allegra, In fact you need it.
Eat five "regular" meals a day, But try to choose quality not quantity. I highly recomend you eat BROWN RICE. This is very effective for asian diet and it really works, just stay away from white rice.
Steamed, roasted or boiled meat are also good together with salads. Remember to EAT ONLY ENOUGH TO FILL YOUR TUMMY for a single meal and don't wait for lunch/dinner if your hungry, this will only make you eat more. EAT WHEN YOUR HUNGRY. [/glow]
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Post by the D. on Aug 11, 2005 13:22:16 GMT 8
i had this condition that i'm not able to produce thyroxin which essential to produce hormones to go over our daily lives. my doctor treated my thyroid gland but he said that due to this condition it's possible that i gain weight rapidly. i don't fully understand this condition but, from what i experience, i became lazy, moves slower, starves frequently and eat a lot and easily get tired.
so i pick up Mountain biking, and started riding. i think riding helps a lot in maintaining my weight. everytime i feel i gain weight, i ride. excerscise is the key, what you put in you must put out though intense training and discipline.
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Post by allegra on Aug 11, 2005 13:45:11 GMT 8
How do you do it pards? I tried removing carbs and eating more meat pero nawala endurance ko So 1:1 uli ratio ko BUT, if weight loss is your goal, mabilis nga makapayat [glow=yellow,10,300]You should not starve yourself of carbs Allegra, In fact you need it.
Eat five "regular" meals a day, But try to choose quality not quantity. I highly recomend you eat BROWN RICE. This is very effective for asian diet and it really works, just stay away from white rice.
Steamed, roasted or boiled meat are also good together with salads. Remember to EAT ONLY ENOUGH TO FILL YOUR TUMMY for a single meal and don't wait for lunch/dinner if your hungry, this will only make you eat more. EAT WHEN YOUR HUNGRY. [/glow] ******************* Yeah , I quit atkins long before kasi nawala ang endurance No more diet for me now, I think I'm already at my ideal weight
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Post by pido on Oct 13, 2005 9:18:34 GMT 8
i'm on south beach diet (SBD) now for almost 2 months now, and lost about 18 lbs. mabilis makapayat ang SBD basta wag lang mandadaya.
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Post by Eikichi on Oct 15, 2005 1:58:52 GMT 8
last june i weight around 230lbs and im 5'8 after 2 months of intense biking even in rain I lost 15lbs pero yung diet ko ganun parin hehehehehehe eat a lot and ride a lot plus drink green tea a lot ;Dt. I tried yung inom ka coffee an hour before the breakfast nawalan me nang gana kumain but it delay my morning ritual result nung natraffic ako sa cubao dati sa auto ko dun nagbadya grrrr asar na asar ako nung time na yun ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by milo on Oct 15, 2005 15:24:26 GMT 8
Engage more into strenous activities..... Ex. Vigorous sexual exercise, mountain biking, running
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Post by bernie on Oct 17, 2005 9:03:34 GMT 8
I onced weigh 280 lbs at the height of 5'8" I do look like a walking barrel, Now I'm down to 210 lbs , what I did!
No Diet, No Hunger, No Pills, No Lipo, no stress
Just eat anything you want!!!!! esp in the Morning-Breakfast - No holds barred!
Just removed Suka, Patis, Toyo and Soda as sawsawan, these are appetizers and holds water in our body. Limit salt and Sugar intake but not totally remove it from your diet, removing it to the diet will maKE you weak and more hungry, in which you will tend to eat more.
Do not overkill reducing of rice in your diet, reducing rice in the diet may work fast but this will make you weak. You will loose weight fast but you'll become weak. Rice is a Carb-Plant source that is needed in our daily works and activities. You'll shake-hungry if you do reduced your rice intake. This will tend you to eat more. This will burn during yourng biking, or just simple walking.
Ang one thing most important thing, much more important than exercise and vitamins.
IS THE REGULAR VOWEL MOVEMENT!
Even you eat right and exercise a lot, if you're vowel movement is not regular, toxins will be retained and this can trigger to serious diseases.
My target weight is 180 lbs. before 1997 or 1998, loosing weight must be gradual and not shortcut to avoid internal organ failure.
just my 1 cent
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Post by marcs on Oct 17, 2005 9:38:36 GMT 8
and to help you with bowel movement, better get a lot of fiber. these things work like brooms sucking out the toxins from your body. if you have no patience to eat gulay and fruits on a regular basis, banatan nyo na lang nung mga fiber supplements like Fibermate. you'd be surprised with what you see in the toilet hehehehe . . .
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Post by bernie on Oct 17, 2005 10:48:24 GMT 8
One of the best source of fiber is Kamote. ( sweet potato ) it's the secret main ingredient of some fiber supplements aside from oats.
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Post by plankton_dash on Oct 17, 2005 11:49:00 GMT 8
and to help you with bowel movement, better get a lot of fiber. these things work like brooms sucking out the toxins from your body. if you have no patience to eat gulay and fruits on a regular basis, banatan nyo na lang nung mga fiber supplements like Fibermate. you'd be surprised with what you see in the toilet hehehehe . . . Question lang po: If your bowel movement is regular, would you still recommend taking fiber supplements to get toxins flushed out from your body? 
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Post by marcs on Oct 17, 2005 12:04:25 GMT 8
if you don't eat your vegetables and fruits regularly, then yes, i'd recommend taking fiber supplements. one tablespoon in a glass of water and you're done. i think a 500mg 400 pesos pack should last you around 3 months
even if you have regular bowel movement, a lot of the stuff you eat can stay inside your body for quite some time, and the longer it stays the more toxins accumulate. (i remember someone saying beef and pork stay the longest, fish the least ata). so getting enough fiber (whether through your natural kamote or a fiber supplement) helps keep your digestive process healthy. not to mention more wonderful toilet escapades hehehehehe
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Post by marcs on Oct 17, 2005 12:15:20 GMT 8
tablesthingy sthingy anak ng . . . am i missing something, bakit censored ang word na S-P-O-O-N? 
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Post by plankton_dash on Oct 17, 2005 12:34:17 GMT 8
tablesthingy sthingy anak ng . . . am i missing something, bakit censored ang word na S-P-O-O-N?  thanks for the reply, sir marcs  as for the"kutsara" censorship...it might be because it's a euphemism for something that involves dogs ;D
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Post by nadette on Oct 17, 2005 14:24:10 GMT 8
exercise and diet
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Post by coolangot ☺ on Oct 17, 2005 14:48:56 GMT 8
Marcs,
poon is a slang term for female's privates ata
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Post by bernie on Oct 17, 2005 15:13:20 GMT 8
Just remember, diet KILLS. Just eat the right food but don't push yourself to hunger, this will damage you yourself. ( magkakaroon ng memory gap, true!)
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Post by Julio on Oct 17, 2005 15:31:35 GMT 8
Here's a copy of an journal review i summarized for an upcoming sports newsletter. The article is about the pros and cons of a low-carb diet... Hope it helps.
Athletes and non-athletes alike seek simple, practical, and achievable dietary advice to help them reach their physical goals. Non-athletes, because their daily activities require minimal physical exertion, often try to prevent weight gain and obesity by restricting energy intake. On the other hand, many athletes choose high-energy diets of varying composition in hopes of improving performance. The scientific truth is that the amount and type of dietary carbohydrate should vary directly with the intensity and volume of exercise.
The worldwide obesity epidemic appears to be the result of energy imbalance arising from too little physical activity relative to food consumption. Public health messages and programs that are effective at increasing physical activity while reducing food intake are urgently needed, due to a virtual agreement that accomplishing this would dramatically reduce obesity.
Obviously, the only means by which physically inactive persons can prevent obesity is to restrain themselves from eating more calories than they use up over a period of weeks or months. This goal of restraining energy intake might be one of the foundations underlying the vague hypotheses surrounding most of the currently popular low-carbohydrate diets. The bottom line is that it is more difficult to overeat when carbohydrates are eliminated from the diet because they are the major food source and typically a main component of mixed meals.
A couple of scientific studies comparing low-carb and conventional low fat, low-calorie diets showed that diet-only approaches to weight reduction appear most effective during the first three months, with weight losses maintained for about six months and gradually diminishing over the next six months. During only the first 3-6 months, low-carb diets in obese people seem to elicit twice as much body weight loss as do conventional dietary plans. After one year, weight changes on the two diet plans are likely to be similar and small.
The scientists who conducted the studies speculated that a low-carb diet with unrestricted protein and fat intake may reduce calorie intake, in the first 3 months, because of the monotony or simplicity of the diet or because some factor(s) associated with the low-carb diet produces greater satiety, other effects on appetite, or better dietary adherence. Because the efficacy of weight-reducing diets is lessened over a 12-month period, there does not appear to be a significant long-term advantage of a low-carb versus a conventional diet.
However, there seem to be some problems associated with low-carb diets. The low amount of vegetables, fruit and fiber consumed on a low-carb diet has the potential to increase the risk of coronary heart disease, cancer and diabetes. Also, the long-term effectiveness of a low-carb diet for maintaining body weight at desired levels has not been established. Dieters may be unable to sustain a low daily intake of carbs or they may be unable to incorporate sufficient daily exercise into their lifestyles, possibly because they lack the carbohydrate energy necessary to make exercise tolerable. Programs that add exercise to long-term weight control regimens using conventional diets in order to increase calorie expenditure are effective at maintaining weight loss and preventing weight gain. However, whether a program combining diet and exercise can be accomplished with very-low-carbohydrate diets is uncertain.
In athletes however, low-carb diets don’t seem to have a place in their active lifestyles. Athletes need carbohydrates to replenish muscle glycogen levels between training sessions. An athlete’s daily calorie intake should generally match energy expenditure to minimize hunger and stress. Several studies have shown that a diet with a high intake of carbohydrate (7-12 g/kg body weight), elicit superior performance gains as compared to a low- or moderate- (5g/kg) carbohydrate diet. Physical performance is better maintained thus reducing the symptoms of overreaching and possibly overtraining.
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Post by marcs on Oct 17, 2005 15:45:21 GMT 8
and that is why i ride ladies and gentlement . . . to eat without having to watch my weight too much (kaya baon ako dami food, I noticed that during heavy rides, whatever I eat 10 mins lang ala na sa tyan!)
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Post by plankton_dash on Oct 17, 2005 15:46:34 GMT 8
my motto has always been: Diet and/or exercise to be HEALTHY, not to be thin. If by any chance, you look good while dieting/exercising, that's BONUS! 
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Post by bernie on Oct 18, 2005 8:45:11 GMT 8
Eat and Burn Policy is the best policy.
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