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Post by [ eRECTUS ] on Mar 17, 2004 2:21:33 GMT 8
How do you make your bike leap about 2 feet high w/o the cruising momentum?
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Post by jr on Mar 17, 2004 2:50:28 GMT 8
Actually you need momentum when do jump. The only way to do jump without momentum is to lift you front wheel and drop. Make it sure your rear tire landed first.
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Post by [ eRECTUS ] on Mar 17, 2004 19:41:19 GMT 8
Actually you need momentum when do jump. The only way to do jump without momentum is to lift you front wheel and drop. Make it sure your rear tire landed first. Make the rear wheel land 1st? Why? Saw this guy jump over a hump on the street moving at around 3km per hour and leaping with his bike more than 3ft...
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Post by maxbuwaya on Mar 17, 2004 21:51:03 GMT 8
some say that bunnyhopping a bike comes out naturally.
the faster an object moves the lighter it gets i say. mas mabilis mas madaling patalunin for me:)
that guy could have been strong hehehe pero sarap ng ganoon dehins na kailngan ng speed.
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Post by maxbuwaya on Mar 17, 2004 21:55:04 GMT 8
its much safer to land the rear wheel first:)
plus when you lift the bike majority of the lift or stregth will come from the front. making it higher than the rear.
puede din sabay, ako usually sabay (para mukhang mataas) ;D
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Post by jr on Mar 17, 2004 22:12:19 GMT 8
Make the rear wheel land 1st? Why? The reason you land the rear tire first is to avoid over the bar accident. If you landed the front tire first the front shock will absorb all the weight.
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Post by dadjzilla on Mar 18, 2004 1:48:42 GMT 8
I don't know how many of u guys know jef lenowski the world record bunny hopper., I had a chance of seeing him person last year in one of our bike show here and he can hop to an amazing 4.5 feet from standing/no momentum.
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Post by gulliver on Mar 18, 2004 9:07:20 GMT 8
also, watching trial riders on video, climbing onto railings, walls, picnic tables from almost a standstill...makes you wonder if those guys are human! if you watch them, you'll see that they pump the bike before leaping...they are so one with the bike that you could even think their tires, the bike...have become their legs and feet! that is being one with your bike! ;D landing on your rear tire as the guys here have pointed out, is the safe way to do it, then followed very closely by your front wheel to carry your momentum forward and not allow it to weigh down too hard or too long on your landing tire...sometimes i'm able to jump from a speed bump at cruising speed naman, and landing with both tires hitting the ground almost at the same time...is a really quiet landing
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Post by gulliver on Mar 18, 2004 9:08:28 GMT 8
and being clipped in helps you get both the you and your rear end off the ground easier
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Post by dadjzilla on Mar 18, 2004 12:02:05 GMT 8
We have different kind of trails here in the midwest its mostly single track, lots of roots and log cruising in the forest preserves, so kailangan talga marunong mag bunny hop, plus as what Gulli said being clipped helps you accomplish this technique.
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Post by [ eRECTUS ] on Mar 20, 2004 6:52:19 GMT 8
whats amazing is the guy im refering to was like 230lbs!!!
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Post by weekendrider on Mar 20, 2004 11:36:01 GMT 8
Pero brad, yung mga biker na yun just imagine the pain they endure before they got to that level and also the time they put in to practice, do we have that.
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Post by fullspeed on Mar 20, 2004 12:40:18 GMT 8
I think it also helps if you have good medical insurance coverage... it doesnt "hurt" so much when you get injured ... no wonder Canada has some of the best riders in the world
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BIKEHEAD
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Post by BIKEHEAD on Jun 17, 2004 13:56:51 GMT 8
problema ko yung take off harap lang ang umaagat yung likod sayad pa din ANO GAGAWIN KO
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Post by jibber on Jun 17, 2004 16:55:25 GMT 8
Bikehead...a pre-requisite, I think, to learning to jump a bike is to first learn how to lift your rear wheel. How to do this: 1. Roll along slowly 2. With your hips positioned somewhere on top of the bottom bracket, bring it in one quick motion near the handlebars. This accomplishes two things: it results into a weight shift which will aid you in lifting the rear and it will partly unweight the rear. 3. In a continuous motion from step 2, push the handlebars forward and down as if in a clockwise rotation ( but do not rotate the grips to do this ). 4. Do not use the front brakes to do this. Start from small lifts. Later, you'll be able to lift the rear to as high as two feet and you could actually endo and faceplant yourself on the pavement ;D This is a good move especially in going up sidewalks and obstacles as high as two feet Now, if you're able to lift the rear about half a foot this way...your body and mind can now know the feeling of lifting the rear. You can then advance to a jump move like a bunnyhop where you lift the front and do the weight shift thingy to lift the rear ;D Gud luck and enjoy!!!
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BIKEHEAD
XC Rider
"WHAT COMES UP, MUST GO DOWN"
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Post by BIKEHEAD on Jun 17, 2004 17:16:23 GMT 8
parang ang hiarap kaya ba yan ng 222lbs?? di bale baka makuha ko sa practice tnx gt
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Post by staind on Jun 17, 2004 18:14:05 GMT 8
GT, you are spot on mate! listen to GT guys. once lifting the rear is instinctive to you, bunnyhops are a cinch! practice makes perfect.
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Post by gulliver on Jun 17, 2004 18:18:48 GMT 8
gtavalanche is the best coach! take it from him! ;D ;D ;D
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Post by jibber on Jun 17, 2004 18:56:55 GMT 8
Kayang-kaya mo yan Bikehead...in fact...kung gusto mo matuto ng jump so you can go over obstacles a foot and below high...I would recommend na lang na you practice the lifting the rear technique...this move is more controlled and practical for your weight/ size to use on such obstacles Pag natuloy kayo dito sa sta rosa on sunday at dehins ako inantok sa night shift..he..he..I can show you the move and its practical applications
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BIKEHEAD
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Post by BIKEHEAD on Jun 18, 2004 8:31:20 GMT 8
tnx gt,
sana nga maipakita mo sa akin.. para may idea ako ng proper execution..
kasi yung mga kaibigan ko dati silang bmx riders kaya natural na sa kanila
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Post by konablack on Jun 19, 2004 14:09:10 GMT 8
Does it help if you have a suspension fork?
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Post by jibber on Jun 19, 2004 18:24:54 GMT 8
Kona...suspension fork helps sa pag absorb ng shock when you jump. But then trials riders uses rigid forks because suspension forks takes a lot of your pre-load energy when doing some trials maneuvers. One way they do to lessen the shock when jumping is to let the rear fall before the front does. This was already discussed at the start of this thread Pero we don't want naman to be pure trials riders...kaya oks para sa akin naka-suspension fork for my xc riding pero I have it stiff para naman magamit ko for my trials practice
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Post by konablack on Jun 20, 2004 13:07:44 GMT 8
Wow, nag-trials ka pala gt, essential talaga ang bunnyhop sa trails, thanks for your advice
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Post by jibber on Jun 22, 2004 18:04:23 GMT 8
Ei Kona...don't get me wrong...I'm into trials but I'm not yet adept in the techniques...category ko newbie pa lang pagdating dito..he..he..he...kaya ko pa lang simple trackstands and front and rear pivots. I think I've read in another thread that you're into trials also? Naghahanap nga ako ka-tsikahan for trials tehniques para may mapag-tanungan
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Post by konablack on Jun 22, 2004 21:44:56 GMT 8
GT - bago lang rin ako sa trials eh, nag-aaral palang ako, ala pang application, kung baga newbie na newbie. Kulang sa practice. How about endo? yung halos 75 degrees na yung bike eh nakatayo parin. Nasubukan ma na ba yung trashzen.com dami ring tricks dun.
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Post by maxbuwaya on Jun 23, 2004 1:02:49 GMT 8
mga trial avid
why not mag set tayo ng meeting? sa isang park na maraming bench na puedeng pagpraktisan?
luneta kaya o quirino grandstand? o UP diliman, marami daw duong mahuhusay gumawa ng puto este magbisikleta pala
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Post by konablack on Jun 23, 2004 8:11:14 GMT 8
Great idea max, mas maganda kung may damo (yung dehins illegal ;D ;D)
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Post by jibber on Jun 23, 2004 18:25:34 GMT 8
Max gustong gusto ko sana yan...but my work won't allow me to leave laguna further than a two hour radius Dito na lang ko sa bahay setup ng benches...a couple of hollow blocks as platforms Kona...endo is a pre-requisite for pivots...I am done with practicin endos...pivots intermediate level na rin ako...I keep busy practicin' backhops now and I can do around 3 to 5 on a good day ;D But I need to do 15+ backhops before I can practice and learn my ultimate goal...to do a lurch or gap When I was starting a few months ago...I frequent the Trials-Online.com and Hansrey.com for the techniques and video downloads. Keep practicin mate!!!
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Post by konablack on Jun 24, 2004 9:28:07 GMT 8
Just got a suspension fork and it got quite hard doing endoes now. (kasi nga dahil sa suspension)
Gt - lurching, mahirap na ata iyon ah. Galing mo na talaga ;D ;D
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Post by jibber on Jun 24, 2004 10:24:34 GMT 8
Di pa ako magaling he..he..just trying to learn ;D Actually I am giving myself until next year to learn how to do this lurch thing If you are that serious about learning trials...start ka muna sa balancing like doing trackstands. Tapos practice front and rear wheel pivots palagi...I practice my pivots in going up and down sidewalks or small stairs...ngayon ko lang na-discover, iba pala ang mag pivot ka on flat surface compared sa pag-pivot onto stairs or sidewalks...iba yung technique na ginagamit. Btw, sorry pala sa nag-pasimula ng thread na ito...from bunnyhop/ jump naging trials ang usapan. Kona...pre better siguro gawa na lang tayo trials specific thread...maganda din kasi may ka-tsikahan tungkol dito para pang motivation
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