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Post by pjax on Jun 28, 2006 19:20:45 GMT 8
just share what you learned when you crashed. tell a short story about the crash, then tell what you should've done, what you shouldn't have done... here what i have to say ( when i crashed last sunday at maarat) things i learned because of the crash 1) stay in control when unfamiliar with the trail. this is going to be hard for me when i'm enjoying downhills 2) when turning in loose terrain, do not lean, steer. this i did, and will do now with conviction 3) do not use the front brakes when turning!!! this is very important!! yes, when going down, the front brake offers more braking power. but when turning, braking the front wheel will cause it to lose traction. front wheel traction is responsible for steering! 4) do not tighten the screw that clamps your levers. it should be a little loose so that in the event of a crash, if the levers hit the ground, they will just swing back instead of taking on the impact of the crash 5) wear a helmet. and knee and elbow protections if possible |
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Post by Ben Dover on Jun 28, 2006 19:50:08 GMT 8
if you do trails i dont think you can totally avoid crashing...from the story i think you did roxas trail...part of the men's health race route...
ideally i think you should brake before the turn not 'during' the turn...and when riding an unfamiliar trail i think it pays to be more cautious...you can always return some other day and do it faster than you did before...btw, how many times have you been to that area where you took a spill?
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Post by marcs on Jun 28, 2006 21:04:43 GMT 8
I don't quite agree with the point on steering vs leaning . . .
"At low speeds, you steer your bike by turning your handlebars in the direction you want to go. At high speeds, you lean your bike in the direction you want to go. Leaning is much more relliable than steering. When you steer your wheel, your tire basically bashes into irregularities in the ground and deflects in the direction you want to turn. When you lean a tire, it rolls around the turn like a rubber-edged ice cream cone. Steered tires wnat to slide. Leaned tires want to rail."
-Mastering Mtn Bike Techniques
Of course it really boils down to sensing just how much speed you can hit before traction begins to give, but I think at speed steering will make you lose balance more than leaning
Yes you should do all your braking before you turn. Slow down enough, look through the turn for the best line, lean into the turn, carve.
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Post by REDNEB on Jun 29, 2006 21:05:39 GMT 8
aheheheh......ummmmm
u can actually turn at low speeds by leaning.... some pros dip their bikes into a leaning position but maintaining 90 deg balance on the bike, more on upper torso and knee flexing motion....keep it loose but balanced...... try wrestling with a fire hose on first blow... ;D
its the basic skill of flatland bmxers...... obeserve..... ~_~
on high speeds like 60-90 up on a tech section steering is the least of ur worries, just tryin to dance with your bike as u try to keep it balanced is a challenge already..... wth...lol... pros tend to use small lumps on the ground to propell them in a low lvl aerial then shifting the rear wheel with their hips to angle into n out of the chicane, switchback, double cutties, if u actually steer trhough those it'll take u + seconds on ur run time.....ryt?
but then again observe.......^_^
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Post by REDNEB on Jun 29, 2006 21:23:23 GMT 8
ummm so where'd the braking go?.............
i had no time to use it...thats where....lol just glide through it.... its like ridin ur .......nvm lol
some crazy fool wiped my front n rear rotors with silicon oil......WTF!..... lol i got used to it it kinda trained me.........lol and thats how i made almost sagasa some one who was faster than me because he made kalat n roller over a barbed wire fence..... BAGAL KASI.. AYAW TUMABI........LOLERZ........ peace juna....lol ahahhahahahaha
Karma yan! u n lester sabotaged me n tried to make me pupu on my drawers!... MGA HAYUP!
were even na anyways...lol (hoy quits na ha!)..... lol
now thats how we learned n trained.... fun n exciting... that was the first time i was able to take down 3 banana trees in one crash...lol i could only take down 1 b4 plus a few pineapples....lol...(some exposed areas of ur armor can be penetrated by sharp stuff..remember)....... thats when juna made uso...." tsong nabaga rotor mo"... it meant lolz......
puro ka preno humataw ka naman!.......lolx ahahahhahah..........
leaning into berms are like riding flat dnt worry bout fallin sideways just dont press ur brakes let science do its work.....^_^ then pull up agad and prepare for the next section.....( u react faster on a track, u actaully make up for lost seconds on past errors).....touche'
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Post by pjax on Jul 2, 2006 14:45:11 GMT 8
yeah, i keep forgetting to brake before the turn, or not braking enough before the turn, so i find myself braking during the turn marcs, the steering over leaning bit only applies to loose terrain. i learned this from mtbfaqsi guess that roxas trail is the maarat counterpart of upak trail in santa rosa just want to add, i scratched my left brake-shift lever beyond recognition (it still works though), misaligned my stem and scratched my (used for the first time!) handlebars. ouch |
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Post by Dragunov on Jul 2, 2006 22:03:26 GMT 8
i learned that cheap parts bend a little more(mas malambot) ;D
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Post by <eVs10nacious< on Jul 3, 2006 8:56:04 GMT 8
always PART OF THE GAME! just keep on riding! brad. see u on trails!  |
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Post by alien_scream on Jul 3, 2006 18:27:40 GMT 8
what i learned from my crash!!!!!
never to go biking again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
JOKE!!!!!!!
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Post by the3l0b on Jul 19, 2006 10:46:31 GMT 8
I learned how to fine tune my front and rear breaking, a little bit harder from the front that is..
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Post by kulot_salot on Jul 19, 2006 10:54:58 GMT 8
that there is a GOD.... ;D
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Post by joes on Jul 19, 2006 11:09:01 GMT 8
... and he's not a big fan of hucking.
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Post by the D. on Jul 19, 2006 13:07:51 GMT 8
i learned that female student nurse from
the province are more than willing to give you a
bath at the philippine orthopedic centre.
i also learned how to use the tabo and
wipe my as$ alternately.
my point is, you'll learn a lot from crashing.
it's all part of the territory.
learn from it.
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Post by Great Teacher Ulysses on Jul 19, 2006 14:38:46 GMT 8
i learned that female student nurse from
the province are more than willing to give you a
bath at the philippine orthopedic centre.
i also learned how to use the tabo and
wipe my as$ alternately.
my point is, you'll learn a lot from crashing.
it's all part of the territory.
learn from it.
+ i learned to sleep in a single position. + i learned that rehab is very expensive + i learned nothing.......... nyahahahahaha!!!! |
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Post by REDNEB on Jul 20, 2006 8:49:08 GMT 8
nyahahahahhaah..................... what i learn from a crash? ummmmmmmmmmmmm
Fly farther n crash harder next time........... lolx... im still alive aint I? lolx....Push forward lang! theres no other way to go...but forward n beyond!......
just as G.T.Uly said....... "GO BIG OR GO TO THE HOSPITAL" .......lol
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Post by kulot_salot on Jul 20, 2006 9:02:01 GMT 8
i learned that female student nurse from
the province are more than willing to give you a
bath at the philippine orthopedic centre.
i validate that!!!!! true! true! true! ;D   |
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Post by Ben Dover on Jul 20, 2006 9:48:08 GMT 8
i learned that female student nurse from
the province are more than willing to give you a
bath at the philippine orthopedic centre.
i validate that!!!!! true! true! true! ;D hmm...how 'bout the "male" student nurses? |
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Post by kulot_salot on Jul 20, 2006 10:03:10 GMT 8
i validate that!!!!! true! true! true! ;D hmm...how 'bout the "male" student nurses? ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by <:jun®:> on Jul 20, 2006 12:45:36 GMT 8
it hurts physically pag walang nakakita, it hurts emotionally pag madaming nakakita... ;D
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Post by REDNEB on Jul 20, 2006 18:40:12 GMT 8
female nurses ....YES PLS....
male nurses...ummm...basta makinis ang palad! LOLZ
the 20th century definition of chic-boi (PEDE SA CHIX PEDE RIN SA BOI!)....loler
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Post by XP on Jul 21, 2006 13:30:09 GMT 8
nice one sir! Mr.chic-boi
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Post by austinomeng on Jul 21, 2006 19:19:48 GMT 8
you have to learn to bring first aid kit (cotton, agua oxygenada, betadine and bandaid)on a trail to prevent infection on your bruises after a crash bros...
ride safe
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Post by anshwa on Jul 21, 2006 23:43:17 GMT 8
What we learn from a crash?
You learn you've went over your limit & that it 's time to work to push it further.
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Post by REDNEB on Jul 22, 2006 4:17:54 GMT 8
awww.....anshwa........ listen to jaya the cat ...yung song na FORWARD........ i agree....
OMG.... push further ka na rin ha!....nyahahahahahahha......... wab u brad!
ahihihihihi......
but its true naman eh......... limit=break=push=break=evolve...... if this aint ur riding formula di ba...ur bound to end up as a poser.............lolx
kaya mag shinguards nga..........nyahahahahahah!
woooot.....................
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Post by anshwa on Jul 23, 2006 19:32:28 GMT 8
Dati pa naman nag-push further. Slowly lang - hehe.
Yep, my shins are kind'a beat up - the right one actually. Problem is I usually get hit on the shins while riding around the neighborhood (urban) so I'm not really wearing any guards. I usually get hit on the shins on the more "friendly" tricks you see BMX riders do. Hay...
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Post by the D. on Jul 23, 2006 21:54:54 GMT 8
my right shin loves the pedals so much that
they meet everytime they see each other.
and couldn't seem to resist the contact.
right shin - scared
left shin - flawless
cleff chin - pwet na yun
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Post by REDNEB on Jul 23, 2006 22:55:58 GMT 8
no shin guards= corned beef(ang kinakaskas yelo pang halo-halo dehins alulod)
no elbow guards= tocilog(tocino to drying-up stage then mahirap matulog cuz nadikit sa pillow case or sa bedsheet)
no kneeguard= tapsilog(tagal matuyo kasi lagi nagalaw ang tuhod hirap tuloy maligo at matulog)
no gloves= crispy kuko( hirap maghilod at humawak ng sabon kasiang hapdi sa hands)
no helmet= Bangsilog(bangenge sa antibiotics lagi kasi me tahi sa ulo)
no skill= itlog( kelangan pa ba imemorize ito?)
flawless= Sibuyas(kutis atenista,lasallista,assumptionista or artista)
no worries=bawang(masarap matulog ng pagulong gulong ng wlang iniinda noh)
no excuse=Mantika(ganyan ka pag sinesermonan ng asawa mo kasi umuwi ka me sugat)
No fear=Kawali(yan ipapalo sayo ng asawa mo pag inuna mo pa repair ng bike mo kesa gamotin mo sugat mo)
no more= ayoko na magpaliwanag at madami tuloy ako naaalala! LOLERZ!
hope this helps............lol
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Post by quiesledaddy on Jul 23, 2006 23:57:15 GMT 8
.........is that you're gonna crash again!!!!!
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Post by REDNEB on Jul 24, 2006 7:20:47 GMT 8
.....and again and again and again..... nono i miss u na.......lolz
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Post by <eVs10nacious< on Jul 24, 2006 10:20:25 GMT 8
crash is part of the game......play chess if u dont like it!......dama n lng kaya! ;D
if u crashes......make it ur strenght not ur weaknesses!......everything will follows!
experiences is the best medicine what u are now!
condom is a must nyahahahaha! ;D
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