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Post by trailrider on Aug 14, 2007 22:31:07 GMT 8
what kind or brand or model should i get clipless pedals for a newbie for the clipless pedals??? im using a 661 session spd sbhoes. it comes with 8 bolts. i dont know whta kind of pedals i should get to fit the shoes. i also want to gat the clepless pedals that i can also us my slipoers for buying pandesal so i mean a clipless pedal with a wider falatform. thx guys!!!!
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Post by mountguitars on Aug 15, 2007 2:00:11 GMT 8
you can buy any clipless pedal you want brad. its personal preferrence naman. there wont be incompatibility issues as far as i know. but then again, if you bought a mountain bike shoe, you should get mountain bike clipless pedals. same goes for road shoes and road pedals. ;D
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Post by turbo on Aug 15, 2007 6:05:59 GMT 8
i personally prefer the shimano m-424 pedal, with the rubber cage. it's not as heavy as the 545 (metal cage), and lasts a long time (not forever though, maybe 5 years). but it takes a lot of abuse. the cage is wide enough for rubber shoes (or slippers).
i like it better than the non-caged designs 'coz there's more platform area when it's muddy and you can't clip in. but that's just me. (i had 520's before but after 1 or 2 rides, i decided to go back to the 424's. i think raul was the one who bought my pedals a couple of years ago.)
the m-324 seems ok also because one side is flat and you can use it with regular rubber shoes or slippers. never tried it, though, and i'd paint the cage black.
and btw, get the multi-release cleats.
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Post by ussprinceton2004 on Aug 15, 2007 7:10:57 GMT 8
SHIMANO PD-M324
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Post by flipnidaho on Aug 15, 2007 20:08:19 GMT 8
another good option are eggbeaters with the platforms (candys). i prefer shimano myself...
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Post by baboinsky on Aug 15, 2007 21:07:08 GMT 8
i personally prefer the shimano m-424 pedal, with the rubber cage. it's not as heavy as the 545 (metal cage), and lasts a long time (not forever though, maybe 5 years). but it takes a lot of abuse. the cage is wide enough for rubber shoes (or slippers). You're lucky. One of the cages of my M-424 popped off 10kms into it's first ride. That was the tour of the fireflies pa. The other cage followed 3 weeks after. The pedals, on the other hand, lasted 3 years. I just sawed off the cages so that I wouldn't have problems with cleat engagement. This left the wire holding the pedal in place exposed, which gave me numerous cuts every ride. I've replaced them with M520's to preserve my legs ;D I'm not sure if I did something wrong with them or I just got a lemon. To be on topic. Shimano SPD's are good if you want to try out clipless pedals. You have the option of purchasing the cheapest model (under 1k???...i think) if you're not yet sure if you can commit to clipless pedals. Anyway, you won't be encountering compatibility issues since most shoes are SPD/TIME pedal compatible. I'd like to try Time pedals in the future. They appear to be wide and would give good weight distribution across your feet. They're just too expensive for me. To all Shimano SPD users: Do you encounter a hotspot or burning sensation on the balls of your feet while riding?
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Post by trailrider on Aug 15, 2007 21:53:15 GMT 8
idols thnx for the replies guys!!! these would really ease my mind! guys does my shoe the 661 session spd including the bolts included, just asking if im going to buy any more parts for the shoe to clip on the pedal??
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Post by baboinsky on Aug 15, 2007 23:29:14 GMT 8
Everything (cleats and screws) that you need should come with the pedals. I'm also using a pair of 661 shoes and I didn't have to buy additional items to attach the cleats.
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Post by turbo on Aug 16, 2007 5:48:15 GMT 8
i personally prefer the shimano m-424 pedal, with the rubber cage. it's not as heavy as the 545 (metal cage), and lasts a long time (not forever though, maybe 5 years). but it takes a lot of abuse. the cage is wide enough for rubber shoes (or slippers). You're lucky. One of the cages of my M-424 popped off 10kms into it's first ride. That was the tour of the fireflies pa. The other cage followed 3 weeks after. The pedals, on the other hand, lasted 3 years. I just sawed off the cages so that I wouldn't have problems with cleat engagement. This left the wire holding the pedal in place exposed, which gave me numerous cuts every ride. I've replaced them with M520's to preserve my legs ;D I'm not sure if I did something wrong with them or I just got a lemon. Sayang. Maybe you got a bad batch. That's too bad, brad. I got my original pair of 424's from a friend who previously used it for 4 years, even for the occassional DH run. I then used them for 2 years during which time I lost one of the end caps protecting the nut & bolt attaching the cage, then I lost the nut so the cage became loose but still usable. I only changed them for cosmetic purposes, and to try out a non-caged design, which I didn't like. I still have the old 424's, a bit beat up, but still perfectly usable.
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Post by dranrev on Aug 16, 2007 8:08:39 GMT 8
Check the link from youtube.
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Post by trailrider on Aug 16, 2007 11:54:35 GMT 8
guys how much for the 424? are those the pedals with the wider flatforms???
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Post by turbo on Aug 16, 2007 12:19:59 GMT 8
shimano m424 maybe around P2.5K or thereabouts. try paulina's, ross, or king's. try mo na rin sa all terra. btw, the pedals in the clip posted by dranrev are the heavier 545's with the metal cage. looks like the 424's except for the cage.
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Post by trailrider on Aug 16, 2007 12:25:38 GMT 8
sir hehehehehe is there any for only below 1k? sori guys. forgot to tel you my budget price. heheheh
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Post by turbo on Aug 16, 2007 12:54:27 GMT 8
below 1K for clipless? hmmm, better try the Components section, brad. you just might be lucky to find a bargain.
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Post by jarod on Aug 16, 2007 13:11:34 GMT 8
How much for the Shimano DR pedal?
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Post by travellingtales on Aug 16, 2007 14:45:42 GMT 8
hey dudes,
my 2 cents... the shimano 545s are pretty good in the dry or very wet, but if you get some thick mud stuck in your cleats you might not be able to engage into the pedals easily. In other words, they can be a major pain in the arse! the non-caged design has a deeper clip so muddy shoes can fit in easier. in saying that, it may be just my crappy nike shoes!
also, if those shimano half-platform, half-SPD are anything like my VP ones, then stay away from them! its a waste of time trying to get them to turn the right way round so you can clip in! you should be able to clip into SPDs without thinking.
jp
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Post by baboinsky on Aug 16, 2007 15:04:08 GMT 8
sir hehehehehe is there any for only below 1k? sori guys. forgot to tel you my budget price. heheheh The 520's that I bought sold for 1100 at Ross. Wala lang sya cage.
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Post by turbo on Aug 16, 2007 16:28:51 GMT 8
maybe around P2.5K or thereabouts. try paulina's, ross, or king's. try mo na rin sa all terra. ooops. I meant P1.5K
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Post by jarod on Aug 16, 2007 19:11:40 GMT 8
Hmmm....I'm getting confused lately... I just wanna share my thots... M324 - hard to clip-in since the side with the mechanism "travellingtales: also, if those shimano half-platform, half-SPD are anything like my VP ones, then stay away from them! its a waste of time trying to get them to turn the right way round so you can clip in! you should be able to clip into SPDs without thinking." M424 - hard to clip in due to the cage when mud strikes M520 - bad reviews from MTBR M540 - lighter than M520 but read from the other thread taht the plastic something breaks off M545 - Heavy Please correct me if there are any misconceptions from each. Hope this doesn't confused us more :
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Post by baboinsky on Aug 16, 2007 19:43:39 GMT 8
Jarod: Most of the products in MTBR have negative reviews. The best review of the product would be the one coming from you. Remember that most SPD pedals are a pain the arse when mud comes into play. I'm not sure with the other brands though.
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Post by puregutz on Aug 17, 2007 10:05:43 GMT 8
Get any high end models from Shimano or Crank Brothers. Shy away from cheap models and you'll definitely enjoy using clipless.
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Post by jarod on Aug 17, 2007 12:46:29 GMT 8
baboinsky: i read that you're using the M520. What's your feedback on this? I read that there are instances that its hard to disengage even on the softest setting. TIA! puregutz: What could you suggests as high-ends? TIA!
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Post by baboinsky on Aug 17, 2007 12:59:18 GMT 8
baboinsky: i read that you're using the M520. What's your feedback on this? I read that there are instances that its hard to disengage even on the softest setting. TIA! Except for the weight and color, I can't tell any difference in performance from the 540's I used on my xtc. Also, using any pedal in the lowest tension setting will really make it prone to disengagement. I suggest that you invest on muti release cleats rather than run the pedal on lowest setting.
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Post by arcireyes on Aug 17, 2007 13:32:05 GMT 8
i'm a newbie clipless user, my M520 pedals partnered with a Multi Release Cleats (Shimano SM-SH56) puts some confidence in the transition (from flats to cleats) IMHO because of the ease in unclipping (even if the pedal's tension is set to medium), which is the most "challenging" part of the transition ;D
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Post by puregutz on Aug 17, 2007 14:01:32 GMT 8
baboinsky: i read that you're using the M520. What's your feedback on this? I read that there are instances that its hard to disengage even on the softest setting. TIA! puregutz: What could you suggests as high-ends? TIA! Shimano DX or those XTR pedals, I dont exactly remember the code/model.
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Post by turbo on Aug 17, 2007 14:55:53 GMT 8
Remember that most SPD pedals are a pain the arse when mud comes into play. Right. I'd think that mud affects all pedals regardless of brand, caged or not. If it's not the mud on your pedals, it's the mud on your shoes/cleats. Aside from mud and other riding conditions such as rain, soil, sand, other factors that could affect your clipping in would be pedal adjustment (tight or loose), choice of cleats (multi- or single release), caged or not, choice of shoes, riding style (xc, am, or dh).
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Post by donfacundo on Aug 17, 2007 15:13:24 GMT 8
shimano 646 for me...
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Post by jarod on Aug 17, 2007 16:46:20 GMT 8
baboinsky: i read that you're using the M520. What's your feedback on this? I read that there are instances that its hard to disengage even on the softest setting. TIA! Except for the weight and color, I can't tell any difference in performance from the 540's I used on my xtc. Also, using any pedal in the lowest tension setting will really make it prone to disengagement. I suggest that you invest on muti release cleats rather than run the pedal on lowest setting. Thanks baboinsky! I wonder how much is the difference of the two in terms of weight and price? Actually, I like the dark color of the 520 compared to the silver 540. Like you've said, it's always better to get first-hand feedbacks first from your experience or friends rather than concluding from what you read on the net.
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Post by jarod on Aug 17, 2007 16:49:47 GMT 8
baboinsky: i read that you're using the M520. What's your feedback on this? I read that there are instances that its hard to disengage even on the softest setting. TIA! puregutz: What could you suggests as high-ends? TIA! Shimano DX or those XTR pedals, I dont exactly remember the code/model. Yup, i like the DX/M647 version too. I just wonder if there are any available in our LBS.
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Post by xero on Aug 18, 2007 0:56:59 GMT 8
Shimano DX or those XTR pedals, I dont exactly remember the code/model. Yup, i like the DX/M647 version too. I just wonder if there are any available in our LBS. Thats available @ Cycle Art in quiapo. dunno the price.
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