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Post by alien_scream on Oct 20, 2005 12:39:53 GMT 8
I think what jumpingzaskar is saying is that for some riders, when they try to bunnyhop, it's only the front wheel that lifts off the ground. If you are able to lift the rear wheel consistently and independently, then bunny hopping "both" wheels shouldn't be a problem anymore P.S. Switch to clipless pedals for easier and higher Bunnyhopping well he said to practice lifting the rear wheel!!!! that's why endoboy is asking of its an endo!!!!! sorry if i'm wrong!!!!!
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Post by Patrick on Oct 20, 2005 14:58:23 GMT 8
P.S. Switch to clipless pedals for easier and higher Bunnyhopping julio, that's called cheating, hehehe ;D. i do that too.... that is called dangerous ;D
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Post by Julio on Oct 20, 2005 17:04:55 GMT 8
Why would it be anymore dangerous than bunnyhopping with normal shoes
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Post by Patrick on Oct 20, 2005 17:38:58 GMT 8
when something goes wrong i.e. landing wrong, bunnyhopping and landing on cables (unseen), taking off wrong, etc. you wont be able to bailout from your pedals.
The risk lessens as your skill level increases. Please see most lessons they advice against using clippless.
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Post by alien_scream on Oct 20, 2005 18:23:59 GMT 8
the number on rule when learning new tricks is never to wear cleats!!!!!!
you might not disengage at once once you make a mistake!!!!!
(that's from the master HANS RAY)
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Post by Julio on Oct 20, 2005 18:51:23 GMT 8
Oh okay... I don't do a bunnyhop for tricks anyway I either use it for clearing humps on fast downhills on roads or for making "pagpag" the mud of maarat off my frame, fork, and tires! Hehe
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Post by PT on Oct 20, 2005 20:44:43 GMT 8
me and jumpingzasker use bunnyhops all the time .. whenever,wherever .. its better if a rider knows how to hop .. its usefull .. and if youre creative,you can use it to spice up those urban sessions ... hehehe ..
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Post by jumpingzaskar on Oct 20, 2005 22:44:47 GMT 8
I think what jumpingzaskar is saying is that for some riders, when they try to bunnyhop, it's only the front wheel that lifts off the ground. If you are able to lift the rear wheel consistently and independently, then bunny hopping "both" wheels shouldn't be a problem anymore P.S. Switch to clipless pedals for easier and higher Bunnyhopping ya,-tama yan. also, ur bunnyhops tend to go higher when ur trying to go over something. i think its psychological or something. but dont go hopping over 2ft obstacles on ur first day, just practice and try going over bigger stuff. fall a few times and u'll be hopping in no time.
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Post by ryn007 on Nov 28, 2005 11:03:26 GMT 8
so from what i gather, the secret is into shifting weight? il try it... baka ma terrorize ko lang yung mga bata sa kalye namen ryan.
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Post by PT on Nov 29, 2005 20:38:19 GMT 8
goodluck pare ...
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Post by marcs on Nov 29, 2005 20:52:11 GMT 8
what I read from Brian Lopes' book, besides just pulling on the bars, once your weight shifts to the rear tire, you should push down on the pedals hard (same thing you do when you jump with your feet). this will cause the rear tire to lift as well while your arms are pulling on the bars and lifting the front tire. twisting the bars would then move the bike in an arc.
Brian proposes to use this technique rather than using brute upper body strengthy to lift the bike.
been trying it this way with limited success, and it does feel better and more stable vs pulling the rear tire with your cleats.
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Post by marcs on Nov 30, 2005 8:24:51 GMT 8
This is the complete text: 1.) Load the spring. Crouch down and forward. Bring your chest close to your handlebars. The faster you compress, the more rebound you'll get for your hop. 2.) Lift your front wheel. Shift your weight backward and get your front end up (review the coasting manual, page 78) 3.) Lift the rear wheel. Timing is essential here. At the moment your weight presses into your rear wheel, push explosively down into the pedals and spring upward. The bike feels like it's springing from under you. If you get light on your pedals, and you live a righteous life, your rear wheel will levitate. 4.) Have a good attitude. Let your bike arc through the air. It should be level as you cross the obstacle. 5.) Smooth landing. For small and medium hops over pine trunks, let your front wheel land first. Absorb the landing with your arms, then your legs. For huge hops over park benches, land rear wheel first (for more on drops, see chapter 7, "Drop Like a Feather")
Source: Mastering Mountain Bike Skills by Brian Lopes and Lee McCormack
FYI, in 1996 Brian hopped almost 50 inches over a bar -- on a BMX bike with flat pedals.
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Post by Patrick on Jan 15, 2006 19:05:07 GMT 8
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Post by budbender on Feb 25, 2006 3:56:20 GMT 8
fastest training tool for bunnyhopping............... ;D Get ur mother-in-law to lay flat on the ground and not move for 3 mins.......... approach with 15-20 kmh speed..... snap your brakes lightly to compress ur front suspension then as ur fork goes back up pull ur bars to ur forehead whislt kicking ur pedals forward............. itll prolly clear 2 ft of air for a 60 pound DH bike....... ;D ;D ;D ;D It comes handy on tech sections for DH trails.......specially with clipless pedals ...works like KY jelly...... it definitely gets u through the rough edges...... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D altho a very handy trick for freeriders n DHers are "tire-tapping"......... its when one is too tired to bunnyhop and just lift your frontwheel with afull pedal push and let inertia bounce you clear of the obstacle..........this is good for rocks the size of refrigerators and small children and angry dogs...... just let the rear wheel hit the obstacle then yank ur bars as high as u can go!......u can notice this with darren berrecloth *Tire-tapping not applicable to mother-in-laws.. ;D ;D ;D
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Post by rob on Mar 3, 2006 16:48:29 GMT 8
'think tire tappin' is perfect for motha-in-laws! hehe
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Post by <:jun®:> on May 23, 2006 17:05:44 GMT 8
tried to do the bunny hop as instructed in one of the videos posted on the board. practiced lifting the front tire first and was successful with this, but when i tried to lift the rear tire, my front suspension compresses. any suggestions on how i can avoid this? should i lock out my front suspension? but doesn't that defeat the purpose?
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Post by Patrick on May 23, 2006 20:00:27 GMT 8
I believe the video your refering to is the bmx video (?) right? It has a ridgid fork so go figure.
Follow the one Alien_Scream posted it helped me a lot to figure out the motion. Play it in quicktime so you can view it frame by frame
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Post by wcoastbo on May 23, 2006 22:59:12 GMT 8
tried to do the bunny hop as instructed in one of the videos posted on the board. practiced lifting the front tire first and was successful with this, but when i tried to lift the rear tire, my front suspension compresses. I don't understand Are you saying that your front tire has come back to the ground before the back wheel has left the ground... how is your fork compressing? Both wheels should be in the air.
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Post by <:jun®:> on May 23, 2006 23:12:30 GMT 8
tried to do the bunny hop as instructed in one of the videos posted on the board. practiced lifting the front tire first and was successful with this, but when i tried to lift the rear tire, my front suspension compresses. I don't understand Are you saying that your front tire has come back to the ground before the back wheel has left the ground... how is your fork compressing? Both wheels should be in the air. the video tutorial i'm following shows that you practice lifting one wheel at a time. the first step is to lift your front wheels first and you should execute this a couple of times, then the second step is to lift your rear wheel without executing a bunny hop, sort of like an endow...
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Post by wcoastbo on May 23, 2006 23:59:21 GMT 8
my apologies logpond. I didn't see that particular video and now understand what you're trying to do (I also skipped a few of the earlier posts).
try this, it might work for lifting your rear wheel. while riding slowing, start with your weight over the seat. move your weight forward as if you were going to do front brake endo. as your center of gravity moves forward, push on the handlebars instead of down (your wrists should be almost level with the ground, not in the normal riding position) and unweight your pedals slightly.
it's similar to a front brake endo, but without using the front brake. I personally don't think this will help in bunnyhopping, but will help in getting your back wheel over a tall curb or rock.
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Post by <:jun®:> on May 24, 2006 9:05:10 GMT 8
thanks for the advice sir. will try to do it and see how it works...
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Post by forcebinder on May 24, 2006 9:09:40 GMT 8
also...lowered bars on your bike will also make ur bunnyhop higher...
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Post by Patrick on May 26, 2006 19:23:40 GMT 8
Thats the BMX video, dont expect your rear tire to lift mr. logpond because your on a mountain bike on level surface. It just a practice on how to lift the rear using your feet by 'scooping' the pedals.
Try Ryan Leech's lesson, use a speed bump as a ramp to launch yourself, the bump will show you teh right timing on how to bunnyhop. Just approach it at jogging speed.
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Post by OnebyOne on May 27, 2006 14:08:50 GMT 8
Bunnyhops is not that difficult actually...its a simple as pulling your front wheel(with your handlebar) as high as you can then bend your knee upwards pulling your rear wheel with you feet(not clip in of course and while your front wheel still in the air)...land with the rear wheel first and followed with the front... Its sounds so simple but without a given speed and proper follow through, you wont be able to make it right...Once you learned the techniques, practice it again and again... Just my 0.02 cents style...
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Post by bastiseus on Aug 15, 2006 18:51:07 GMT 8
mga sir yung po bang hardtail set up for dirtjumping ang the best setup for 4cross/mtncross or mas advantage ang naka FS for that particular event/activity? am just curious lang po, considering doing bunnyhops are skills necessary in 4x i guess,.xc racers kasi ako samen province..recently i had watched this video of my friend, it has this 4x event..it seems to be interesting and more exciting than xc racing,,and i just wonder if there is any local event such as this...i haven't watch locals yet..coz i don't know if there are people organizing 4x...i've watch local bmx'rs do their stunts, ang gagaling eh...sana matuto din ako nun..mejo late na ata at my age, but still i believe i have to hone my jumping & dh skills, puro kasi flat at uphill ang nakasanayan ko eh if ever gusto kong magparticp8 sa 4x, right?
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Post by alien_scream on Aug 16, 2006 14:22:59 GMT 8
like they say it's never to late to learn!!!! everyday we learn (one thing or another) something new!!!! kaya if you want to learn how to bunny hop just practice!!!!!!
as for those HT and FS... its just preference!!!! some would prefer FS some would prefer HT!!!!! try to borrow bikes of other to konw how they feel and get a bike what's comfortable to you!!!!! (bumili ka nga ng mamahaling bike di ka naman comportalble!!! bale wala yun!!!!!)
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Post by Patrick on Aug 16, 2006 19:45:00 GMT 8
Try my bike Joey see if you can bunnyhop hehe
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Post by pjax on Aug 17, 2006 11:16:33 GMT 8
are there standard bike geometries where it is impossible to bunnyhop? or bike setup?
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Post by ewik on Aug 23, 2006 15:12:34 GMT 8
are there standard bike geometries where it is impossible to bunnyhop? or bike setup? i think it's in the beholder, we have a friend who uses a 18" or 19" frame and still he can bunny hop more than a monoblock chair. (yung walang sandalan)
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Post by bengski on Sept 9, 2007 2:29:33 GMT 8
First time i learn doing this trick called bunny hop i use to have a bond paper to be my marking so that i will know if im doing the right way by making my rear wheel clear the paper,sometimes the eager we learn tricks like this it open a different kind of hop and its called the double jump and its the window to learn the bunny hop for me....
dont wear clipless pedals if you wanna learn this trick,i know its easier to execute the bunny hop but you will be more dependent wearing it and it wont be a safe way if you get frustrated learning a trick.....
if you wish you'd had a FULL SUSPENSION bike just to pull off a bunny hop well its not gonna help either,its more complicated especially if you can manipulate the rear shocks coz it will only absorb your legs compression when you dont use the advantage of the rear shocks to lift your rear wheel...
this doent happen overnight and leaning some body movements and getting yourself be more confident learning this trick is a lot more practice to pull it off....
dont be afraid to learn new tricks and always remember " FiRsT TiMe BeAts ThE HaRdEsT "
here's a video of RYAN LEECH on how to bunny hop i hope it helps ;D
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