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Post by Onie on Feb 5, 2008 5:41:12 GMT 8
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Post by baboinsky on Feb 5, 2008 6:29:01 GMT 8
Deym, there's a huge international airport rotting away in Villamor and they decided to go to Pampangga??? I smell major kickback in developing the DMIA. Tsk tsk tsk. I live within walking distance to NAIA and I'll surely miss those big planes zipping by.
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Post by jr on Feb 5, 2008 6:40:44 GMT 8
I think is better ..my experienced going to NAIA was so congested. Probably will eliminate the congestion in Manila when this new airport fully functional. Just my 2 cent.
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Post by warlock^_^ on Feb 5, 2008 8:23:32 GMT 8
a friend of mine says here that villamor is just sharing runway with MIA and NAIA. Deym, there's a huge international airport rotting away in Villamor and they decided to go to Pampangga??? I smell major kickback in developing the DMIA. Tsk tsk tsk. I live within walking distance to NAIA and I'll surely miss those big planes zipping by.
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Post by ice on Feb 5, 2008 8:32:57 GMT 8
great move imho....actualy that plan was already a buzz through the grapevines for several years already... we're one of a handful of nations with their airports still located within the capital city . . . . they've got better and longer runways there, that could accommodate future wide-bodied aircraft aside from the airbus a380 that kinda found it difficult to land and take-off at our existing international runway in pasay/ paranaque. with this, more developments are in store for the central plains up to northeastern and northwestern luzon! i guess, the government needs to rush the planned central rail system to make the planned air hub to be more accessible, aside from the nlex. and off course, sucat road will be decongested! downside is, the naia 3 would again become one of the government's white elephants. curahee!
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Post by anthrax76 on Feb 5, 2008 10:40:43 GMT 8
it's a good move.....next thing though is how to prepare Angeles City for the traffic because of this decision. McArthur highway is already congested enough near the Dau bus stop.
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Post by sdny on Feb 5, 2008 11:02:04 GMT 8
actually i'm in favor of relocating some international flight/airport to other provinces. for atleast the trapik going in naia/mia will be reduced and the time will also shortened for the arrival/departure... and also i'm in favor the transfer those airforce/military aircraft to clark field.
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Post by warlock^_^ on Feb 5, 2008 14:23:59 GMT 8
Hmmm tsk international flights will require you to check in 2 hrs before departure, and then from Manila to Clark is estimated to be 2 hrs (+/- 1 hr from trapik). That would require you to leave your house 5 hrs before sched departure.
ex. JAL flight to Narita leaves around 9am.
That will mean someones travelling already as early as 4am in the morning.
tsk tsk tsk
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Post by anthrax76 on Feb 5, 2008 14:29:29 GMT 8
@warlock, unfortunately that's the case. the 2 hour check-in before departure actually balloons because of security checks. although from balintawak to clark now is something like an hour drive because of the NLEX improvement.
your flight will definitely suck if you leave on a saturday and/or arrive on a sunday.
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Post by BrusKO on Feb 5, 2008 14:41:17 GMT 8
If you rename NAIA to DMIA, she will reverse her decision. This will be a hassle for frequent travelers. Take into consideration the expensive toll fee you have to pay along the NLEX. Wala ng ginawang tama ang nuno!
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Post by anthrax76 on Feb 5, 2008 14:44:15 GMT 8
One more thing.....how much would a taxi fare be from Clark to Makati? har har har
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Post by BrusKO on Feb 5, 2008 14:48:20 GMT 8
Yep... you said it. I usually cab to NAIA when I go out of the country.
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Post by Ben Dover on Feb 5, 2008 15:16:56 GMT 8
hey, you're not the only peeps who go out of the country...its a welcome development for us peeps who live in pampanga, tarlac, bulacan etc. look at the benefits, goods for shipment abroad and peeps no longer need to pass by metro manila so traffic will be lessened...it will bring development in the north...your big beautiful houses in the south are no longer in danger of being landed on by a 747.
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Post by ice on Feb 5, 2008 16:11:41 GMT 8
If you rename NAIA to DMIA, she will reverse her decision. This will be a hassle for frequent travelers. Take into consideration the expensive toll fee you have to pay along the NLEX. Wala ng ginawang tama ang nuno! naia is still known to frequent flyers and the air operations/ aviation communtiy as mia or manila international....... so when the plan pushes through, dmia will still be referred to as mia or manila international. in malaysia, originally though located in subang jaya, they call their airport klia or kuala lumpur international... when it was moved to sepang in '97 or '98 they still call it klia... same with some other major cities in other countries.. except of course with cities with two or more airports (new york: jfk & newark... london: heathrow & gatwick.... washington d.c.: dules & reagan... etc.) ;D curahee!
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Post by baboinsky on Feb 5, 2008 19:28:24 GMT 8
your big beautiful houses in the south are longer in danger being landed on by a 747. It's one of the good things I see out of this move. We had a close call last year when a Cesna crashed and exploded a few meters from my house.
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Post by ice on Feb 5, 2008 20:00:26 GMT 8
your big beautiful houses in the south are longer in danger being landed on by a 747. It's one of the good things I see out of this move. We had a close call last year when a Cesna crashed and exploded a few meters from my house. that is one of the dangers in having an airport, most especially an international one, within a highly urbanized area. how many 737's have literally crossed the south super highway in the past and made tin cans out of the passing vehicles? how many aircrafts have crash landed within the vicinity of merville & moonwalk? based on past studies, the most ideal place for an international airport would either be clark or subic. yeah, at first commuting would be an ordeal, but hey, i'm sure the government has plans to address these issues, like the proposed central luzon rail system, and the extension of nlex or creation of a diversion road directly to clark, etc. but definitely, the country side development will be great with this project pushing through. curahee!
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Post by allegra on Feb 5, 2008 22:19:41 GMT 8
Clark needs the money Go clark!
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Post by Ben Dover on Feb 5, 2008 22:45:08 GMT 8
prices of properties will skyrocket within the vicinity...now its time to secure a construction contract hehe!
i'll bet some stupid local government official will approve the construction of new subdivisions around the area...squatters too will dot the area...then they will worry about planes falling on their heads LOL! ;D
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Post by ice on Feb 6, 2008 6:55:50 GMT 8
prices of properties will skyrocket within the vicinity...now its time to secure a construction contract hehe! i'll bet the some stupid local government official will approve the construction of new subdivisions around the area...squatters too will dot the area...then they will worry about planes falling on their heads LOL! ;D hope they won't be singing this song.... (to the tune of the famous theme song from butch casssidy and the sundance kid) cessnas keep falling on our heads just like the peeps in m******* who were still in bed nothing seems to keep those, cessnas from falling on my head, they keep falling... joks lang po ;D curahee!
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Post by Lui-G on Feb 6, 2008 8:16:03 GMT 8
A very good sign for the tourism industry up north as well.
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Post by xtreme on Feb 6, 2008 10:36:33 GMT 8
It's a good thing for Pampanga and nearby provinces. Dami benefits nyan, but there will surely be disadvantage as well. Traffic, over crowding, higher crime rates, air pollution and ofcourse noise pollution. Hope everything will be balance.
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Post by anthrax76 on Feb 6, 2008 10:47:33 GMT 8
yeah, maybe the railways could finally be developed. i was imagining this scenario because my wife is from Pampanga.
We could get a house in pampanga, then travel by train to Makati. travel time should almost be the same as going from San Juan to Makati, will all the traffic in EDSA.
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Post by bikebuggy on Feb 6, 2008 14:08:55 GMT 8
reduced congestion in Manila; more investors in Pampanga and nearby provinces.. hopefully this will create some sort of balance,, and besides, clark has the better airport/runway.
not a very bad move IMHO,
that's prolly why investors are pouring in at Clark,, I heard Texas Instruments s opening up a very big facility there..
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Post by bikebuggy on Feb 6, 2008 14:11:05 GMT 8
and hopefully this time when they do the planning they'll consider the lessons learned..
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Post by Ben Dover on Feb 6, 2008 15:10:11 GMT 8
in malolos bulacan, the old railway along the road which was once occupied by squatters (some with big concrete houses ;D) is now cleared...rehabilitation/construction is currently undergoing...a chinese firm yata got the contract.
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Post by anthrax76 on Feb 6, 2008 15:27:01 GMT 8
niiiice news Tolits, he he he.
i remember riding the south bound PNR years ago (Sampaloc to Parañaque). i'm not sure if it still open to commuters.
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Post by allegra on Feb 6, 2008 22:52:37 GMT 8
niiiice news Tolits, he he he. i remember riding the south bound PNR years ago (Sampaloc to Parañaque). i'm not sure if it still open to commuters. they are relocating the squatters hanggang laguna Japanese funded yata ang PNR rehab
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Post by anthrax76 on Feb 7, 2008 11:29:16 GMT 8
allegra, that's good news. I've seen the part of the railway along south super highway in makati and no more squatters for more than a year now.
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Post by allegra on Feb 9, 2008 0:50:04 GMT 8
I hope they moderated their greed for this project
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