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Post by dyn0888 on Oct 3, 2007 13:27:10 GMT 8
What's wrong with our Med schools?  Check out this link: |
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Post by baboinsky on Oct 3, 2007 14:16:19 GMT 8
It's a comedy. It's not supposed to be taken seriously........
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Post by wcoastbo on Oct 6, 2007 18:36:49 GMT 8
baboinsky = the voice of reason. I'm with you, what's the uproar about?
besides, teri hatcher can say anything she wants. she's a cougar ;D
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Post by bikedaddy on Oct 6, 2007 21:37:57 GMT 8
I'm a doctor and I could care less. What's offensive was the revelation of that resident doctor that was interviewed on TV; that more than half of his batchmates from UP-PGH College of Medicine are now in the U.S. It is my opinion that those doctors from UP who got subsidized tuition fees should serve here first before they take note of Teri Hatcher's OB-Gyn history.
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Post by marcs on Oct 6, 2007 21:56:48 GMT 8
It is my opinion that those doctors from UP who got subsidized tuition fees should serve here first before they take note of Teri Hatcher's OB-Gyn history. Completely agree to this. There should be a bond or something to keep them from flying off to another country the moment they graduate. Either serve your country or pay back what your country spent on you. It ain't free schoolinng, someone paid for it, and that someone's me, the taxpayer!  Dunno why they don't have it for PGH. One of our new hires in the office was a DOST scholar (no, they did not pay for his education, they only gave him some allowance I think), but nevertheless, even for short business trips there's so much paperwork he has to do to ensure he doesn't 'escape' from the country  Back on topic, I think the reaction to this is just one big OA. I like what Unang Hirit said about this, don't waste time dissing the show, instead, look to why such a comment was made in the first place, and that is because maybe there are some schools that are substandard. |
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Post by baboinsky on Oct 6, 2007 21:58:28 GMT 8
besides, teri hatcher can say anything she wants. she's a cougar ;D Got that right! Growl. ;D |
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Post by Ben Dover on Oct 6, 2007 22:20:54 GMT 8
It is my opinion that those doctors from UP who got subsidized tuition fees should serve here first before they take note of Teri Hatcher's OB-Gyn history. Completely agree to this. There should be a bond or something to keep them from flying off to another country the moment they graduate. Either serve your country or pay back what your country spent on you. It ain't free schoolinng, someone paid for it, and that someone's me, the taxpayer! i thought there's such thing..or sa PMA yun? |
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Post by Ben Dover on Oct 6, 2007 22:27:04 GMT 8
I'm a doctor and I could care less. What's offensive was the revelation of that resident doctor that was interviewed on TV; that more than half of his batchmates from UP-PGH College of Medicine are now in the U.S. It is my opinion that those doctors from UP who got subsidized tuition fees should serve here first before they take note of Teri Hatcher's OB-Gyn history. am just thinking...how about the other colleges like engineering, nursing etc..magagalit sayo mga taga UP nyan ;D |
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Post by bikedaddy on Oct 6, 2007 22:48:25 GMT 8
I'm a doctor and I could care less. What's offensive was the revelation of that resident doctor that was interviewed on TV; that more than half of his batchmates from UP-PGH College of Medicine are now in the U.S. It is my opinion that those doctors from UP who got subsidized tuition fees should serve here first before they take note of Teri Hatcher's OB-Gyn history. am just thinking...how about the other colleges like engineering, nursing etc..magagalit sayo mga taga UP nyan ;D I'm just singling-out the doctors tolits ;D....5 towns in Quezon province don't have Rural physicians, that means at least 100,000 Filipinos are left unserved. Oh! we need accountants too, hehehe. |
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Post by pjc on Oct 8, 2007 17:36:06 GMT 8
It's a comedy. It's not supposed to be taken seriously........ couldn't agree more.. |
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Post by wcoastbo on Oct 10, 2007 6:56:21 GMT 8
if Pinoys around the world are going to unite and fight for a cause, let's make it a good cause. not something said off handedly in a comedy show that has no real relevance in the greater world. what about the plight of exploited overseas workers? or how about educating the rest of the world that Pinoys are honest, hardworking and very educated people, many of which are doing jobs below their talents in order to send money to their families back home. or... so many better fights than this one.
I didn't know many of the doctors there get a subsidized education and bail out. half of his class? they can get away with that?
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Post by Ben Dover on Oct 17, 2007 13:46:36 GMT 8
my bayaw, a pure blooded pinoy born in USA just recently sent me an email containing a link to the copy of a letter by atty. melvin n.a. avanzado. he wrote a letter to the president of ABC re: DESPERATE HOUSEWIVES disparagement of filipino medical community. cerritosallstars.com/images_2/2007_1004_MNAA_to_ABC.pdfi find it very enlightening. |
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Post by allegra on Oct 17, 2007 14:35:20 GMT 8
I dont remember reading this thread errr...my sis is from UPPGH , now nasa US hehe I have to argue she has the right to do so , kasi w/ the low pay UP gives to my parents as Professors for decades , dapat nga libre na medschool tsk tsk , we had to eat nothing but kangkong and kamote ( clean burning carbs ) so we can afford to send her to medschool Braindrain nga , she's very very smart pa naman unlike me Kahit dehins niya linya , she never fails to give advices on sports medicine sakin like - " T@ng@ ka pala e , masakit pala tuhod mo , di wag ka tumakbo" Off topic - my fave memory of PGH was back in high school when she was still an intern, heart attack patients who had to fall in line waiting to be looked at.Crying families everywhere, medstaff too wornout. Bummer |
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Post by whoopi on Oct 17, 2007 15:02:03 GMT 8
ehrm, i think the remark was disparaging to medical schools in the philippines, and not filipino medical professionals (in the U.S. or anywhere) per se. i think a lot of the protests are missing this point. also i think the remark was coming from the recent scandal in the nursing exams--a shameful incident that fellow filipinos caused--that made people wonder whether our medical graduates are really qualified. the protesters should have raised an uproar then, because that kind of cheating is actually much more damaging to the filipino medical professionals' reputation than an insensitive remark made in a comedy show.
the producers have apologized, i think we should move on.
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Post by kulot_salot on Oct 17, 2007 15:30:24 GMT 8
also i think the remark was coming from the recent scandal in the nursing exams--a shameful incident that fellow filipinos caused--that made people wonder whether our medical graduates are really qualified. the protesters should have raised an uproar then, because that kind of cheating is actually much more damaging to the filipino medical professionals' reputation than an insensitive remark made in a comedy show. tagal na yan! it's not new! even in the engineering field there's that 'leakage/tips' offered to examinees by review centers who are with connection inside PRC.......  ...not gonna be surprised if discovery's extreme engineering program will diss the filipino engineers naman...  |
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Post by maxbuwaya on Oct 17, 2007 15:32:00 GMT 8
I saw her breast already
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Post by Ben Dover on Oct 17, 2007 15:43:32 GMT 8
ehrm, i think the remark was disparaging to medical schools in the philippines, and not filipino medical professionals (in the U.S. or anywhere) per se. i think a lot of the protests are missing this point. also i think the remark was coming from the recent scandal in the nursing exams--a shameful incident that fellow filipinos caused--that made people wonder whether our medical graduates are really qualified. the protesters should have raised an uproar then, because that kind of cheating is actually much more damaging to the filipino medical professionals' reputation than an insensitive remark made in a comedy show. the producers have apologized, i think we should move on. yeah! like who created the image of pinays? ;D |
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Post by Ben Dover on Oct 17, 2007 15:49:18 GMT 8
me too....and they're nothing compared to those of phoebe cates who is of filipino descent. bwahaha! lol!! ;D |
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Post by grnhrnt on Oct 17, 2007 17:07:19 GMT 8
Funny there was more rancor about dissing Philippine Medical school gradutates when another show (which is one of my favorite's) dissed a former Phil. President! This really upset me as they got it all wrong... I think they should have referred to her daughter.... Joke! Peace!
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Post by sabretooth on Oct 17, 2007 17:58:06 GMT 8
yeah. i heard cory was labeled as a "very *friendly* person" by the Daily SHow, i dunno if i got that right. But nobody flinched.
well, it is an awful waste of energy to protest a comedy show. It's racist America. Period. It's a shame Filipinos say the same things on live TV. You just have to pay very close attention to Mr Wowowee interview expats and balibayans in his gameshow. :-)
As for doctors leaving for the States instead of serving the country, well we can't blame them. They aren't PMA cadets who swore to become government property from day one. They are also like us who want a better life. My good friend served the PGH for four long years but burned out. He had the will to serve. The courage to serve. But the government, he feels, is not up to the challenge. My officemate's dad died in his watch because he couldn't send the patient out to another hospital not because there weren't ambulances around. There were two state-of-the-art mobile hospitals stashed safely inside PGH, donated by Germany ata. But...authorities claim, Wala daw pondo para sa gas.
But hey. The government can do something. But it chooses not to. Better put the money in bags and distribute to local govt officials as "gifts" haha.
groan.
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Post by baboinsky on Oct 17, 2007 18:47:07 GMT 8
yeah. i heard cory was labeled as a "very *friendly* person" by the Daily SHow, i dunno if i got that right. But nobody flinched. Maybe we should make an online petition addressed to Jon Stewart and the Daily Show to make a correction on the questionable segment. The proper labels should come out as: Kris Aquino = "very *friendly* person" Cory Aquino = "Political Prostitute" ;D |
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Post by sdny on Oct 17, 2007 22:38:29 GMT 8
please, don't take it seriously! for my opion: 1. former u.s president bill clinton, narrates pgma as said everybody's afraid of gloria! bang where's that response? 2. the ever known recto diploma syndicate are came from, paw how can our government deal with it, NOTHING ? 3. not all doctors are %#$%#%%## the facts of todays md's attitude "they refering to our medical pratictioner" they look as not as patient but a peso signd. 4. alot of medical mal-pratice reportedly, and they are not agreed on the bill which korina sanchez wanted to protect the patient against medical mal-practices. pls. don't ever take it seriously, masyado kc tayo balat sibuyas. theres alot of good but best doctors in our country but, there already gone and took up nursing diba.......'cause one of them is my brother... |
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Post by wcoastbo on Oct 18, 2007 6:24:42 GMT 8
lamok, good find on that letter. I think the letter is well written, well intentioned (esp in the points meant to educate the media powers to the contributions of filipinos here in the US), and gets the right points across. But, my point still stands, that the origins of this bruhaha still come from a comedy series, not a serious journalistic endeavor.
I understand that it just might be good to raise awareness to the fact the pinoys have had many positive contributions in the US, especially in light of how popular this series is (although I've never watched even 1 minute of the show). Awareness is always a positive thing, but I hope the message is not lost in the possible backlash in this atmosphere of over "political correctness". I agree we should voice our concerns when our culture and people have been "wronged", but is this the right situation? I don't truly know. But my opinion would lean towards "wrong time to pick a fight."
I would hate for the time to come when there's a major issue concerning filipinos and the general attitude is "weren't you guys up in arms about some stupid comment on some stupid show". of course, the show would have been long forgotten as was the comment, but the fact that we got a bit over sensitive will linger. let's prove to the world that we're hold ourselves with high self-esteem and can take a little joke.
In my experience, the rest of the world likes filipino people/culture and holds us in high regard (both blue and white coller worker, laborers and professional alike). This little joke won't change that fact. Let's hold our heads up and be proud.
...just my 2 cents.
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Post by allegra on Oct 18, 2007 8:05:03 GMT 8
For ex. -
If someone said , "....from some med school in cavite" on a local comedy show , given other choices, I'd avoid Dr's from cavite
It maybe just a joke , but mabuti na sigurado
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Post by Ben Dover on Oct 18, 2007 9:48:32 GMT 8
bo, i guess my point is this...i've seen some shows of conan o'brien, david lettermen, jay leno etc...and certainly filipinos abroad too..jokes are jokes and you're just supposed to laugh at them...but why all these reactions to this remark in desperate housewives? i've seen some episodes of the show and its not bubble gang...it deals with some sensitive and serious aspects of human lives...maybe its the show?...the context of the remark? the way it was delivered? i don't know...but the fact is feelings were hurt...and i don't think its because they are just stupid and mga balat sebuyas...do you believe in bad joke? i do..and i believe guilty ako of several counts ;D...btw, how do we judge if a joke is bad or not...isnt it from the reaction of the crowd? if a joke failed, is it audience's fault or the comedian? if these people believe it was wrong, i'm giving it to them...maybe they have a different view of it not evident to us...some people say, there are always 3 sides in an argument (ordinary coin has 3 sides not 2 btw)...your side, his side and the right side..i agree with that. |
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Post by wcoastbo on Oct 20, 2007 5:23:58 GMT 8
@ LaMok: I can agree with you. Sounds reasonable. Besides, I'm fine when others disagree with me.
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Post by jr on Oct 24, 2007 0:12:02 GMT 8
She was serious when mentioned. Probably if she laugh after the fact could be different outcome. Just like our fellow Indians, making joke of there way of life and accent? So far I did see any disagreement from there community.
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