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Post by gulliver on Feb 27, 2005 22:36:06 GMT 8
(an offshoot from another thread...) what is the "good life"? is it something you want to have? how does one get it? do you have it now? do you have friends or acquaintances who are living the good life? ala lang, just feeling philosophical hehehe
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Post by allegra on Feb 27, 2005 23:53:11 GMT 8
That's a good question Everytime I think My life is goin great, life turns around and kicks me in the teeth So far, nakakabangon pa rin naman I dotn think a great life is a condition I think it's a state of mind
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Post by whoopi on Feb 28, 2005 9:13:40 GMT 8
sir ted, salamat sa libre nyo ni butch sa lunch sa bataan para sa akin, a good life is a life of freedom. if you're free to believe in what you want to believe, if you are allowed to express yourself in any manner you wish basta dehins nakakasakit sa iba, if you can pursue your interests na walang nagbabawal basta walang nasasaktan, if you can live your life the way you are meant to dahil kaya mo--in short, if you can do all these nang walang discrimination, threat, imprisonment, punishment, then you are living a good life. we don't realize sometimes that in some places the state or society dictates one's behavior or beliefs. ang swerte natin dehins tayo ganun. some people din are not free to live life the way they want to simply because they can't afford to, or they are incapable of doing so because of physical limitations or illness. swerte yung iba sa atin na dehins ganun. freedom is something i always try to be thankful for.
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Post by gulliver on Feb 28, 2005 10:27:09 GMT 8
I think it's a state of mind good one
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Post by gulliver on Feb 28, 2005 10:28:30 GMT 8
sir ted, salamat sa libre nyo ni butch sa lunch sa bataan para sa akin, a good life is a life of freedom. you're welcome whoopi and yup, freedom is a gift...a gift that requires responsibility
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Post by Ben Dover on Feb 28, 2005 10:58:03 GMT 8
may nadampot akong libro kahapon padala ng sis ko ilang taon na nakakaraan pero di ko nababasa ;D taxi driver wisdom yung title ng libro. may nakasulat na more or less ganito " if you say you are happy, you are lying." ...hmnn...syiempro nag isip ako...hirap pala mag-isip pag dehins ka sanay..hehe ;D ;D ;D very sweeping yung statement na iyon lalo na sa dami ng taong nagsasabi na maligaya sila...maybe this is a little off-topic..pero masaya ka nga ba o pinipilit mo na lang maging masaya? knowing yung nature ng tao na walang satisfaction.. para ngang naniniwala akong majority sa ating dehins talaga masaya..once you worry about your future tapos na saya mo..alam ko baliw lang di nagwo-worry sa future eh..kaya pala sila tawa ng tawa ano... ;D ;D ;D napatapang yata timpla ko sa kape kanina.
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Post by gulliver on Feb 28, 2005 19:02:02 GMT 8
tolits,
oo nga! kailangan ko muna isipin yung sinulat mo...balikan kita maya-maya pre ;D
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Post by Onie on Feb 28, 2005 22:12:00 GMT 8
Hello!
Neat question, indeed!
As for me, it all happened pretty quickly... Morality play... It's all about how transformable our morality. How much is our morality just a luxury that we get to have because our lives are so comfortable... And if we are really in dire situation is there such innate sense of what is right or wrong. Or is it just all survival?
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Post by gwm..."GRASS-HAPA" on Feb 28, 2005 22:17:23 GMT 8
great topic ted!
going for the good life huh? hmmm...
to me the good life is being able to do what you want to do when you want to do it. yes, freedom is part of that, money too, but the bulk of that i think is attitude.
yup, attitude.
let me explain. you can wake up tomorrow morning and worry about traffic, work what or who you are going to be in the next 5 years...
OR
you can wake up tomorrow and thank God for being alive, having a job and for giving you the time to ride your bike on the not so busy weekends.
now, i'm not by any means an über religious guy, but i've got enough sense in me to appreciate what i'm given and blessed with. hey all i've got to do is look outside and see a bum living "day-to-day" and i can definitely say "I've got a good life indeed".
that, to me, is enough for me to call my life the good life. i don't ask for much... my family, my business, my girl and my kick-ass bike are all i need to proclaim "the good life"
...but contentment... hmmm... thats another story altogether ;D
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Post by ygolote on Mar 1, 2005 10:36:27 GMT 8
Conrad de Quiros once wrote, "there is a difference between a good life and the good life."
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Post by dirtrat on Mar 1, 2005 10:56:43 GMT 8
i agree with whoopi very well said ...goodlife is being free ...
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Post by Ben Dover on Mar 1, 2005 11:03:20 GMT 8
Hello! Neat question, indeed! As for me, it all happened pretty quickly... Morality play... It's all about how transformable our morality. How much is our morality just a luxury that we get to have because our lives are so comfortable... And if we are really in dire situation is there such innate sense of what is right or wrong. Or is it just all survival? onie, paki translate mo nga ito sa ingles o pilipino. ;D ;D ;D gwm, gaano kalayo ang contentment sa hapiness or good life?
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Post by jibber on Mar 1, 2005 11:27:34 GMT 8
To say you have it or going for it...means you are measuring something...and to measure something you have to have a reference point or baseline. So if I feel my mobility is hindered, or I don't have a say to certain situations and doesn't like it...then maybe to have freedom is the good life for me. If I earn 5K a month and only eat twice a day...then maybe the good life for me is eating 3x a day. If I ride a hardtail bike and I'm not enjoying it....then maybe mounting a full-suspension is the good life for me...do I make sense??? Hmmm...pasensya na po if I don't make sense...kahit kasi sa sarili ko di ko masabi kung ano ang good life. When I'm playing with my kids and exchanging sweet nothings with my wifey...I tell myself...this is the good life...but when the monthly bills arrive and I don't have enough money...life sucks as hell ;D
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Post by whoopi on Mar 1, 2005 11:45:30 GMT 8
" if you say you are happy, you are lying." very sweeping yung statement na iyon lalo na sa dami ng taong nagsasabi na maligaya sila...maybe this is a little off-topic..pero masaya ka nga ba o pinipilit mo na lang maging masaya? ewan ko lang ha, i'm happy, and i know i'm not lying siguro ibig lang nya sabihin, happiness is not like a college degree that you work to achieve and then once you get it, it's permanent, no one can take it away from you. siguro parang faith, minsan you truly believe and there's not a shred of doubt in your heart, and then something happens and you start to doubt again, so you work hard to keep believing. pero totoo na we forever want something we don't have ("i want the one i can't have and it's driving me mad, it's all over all over my face"--morrissey), pero dehins ibig sabihin nun dehins tayo happy di ba? di ba pwedeng happiness is in the pursuit?
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Post by Ben Dover on Mar 1, 2005 13:36:29 GMT 8
whoopi, sa ganang akin ang ibig lang siguro sabihin, to achieve a certain level of hapiness we have to learn to apprciate the things we have. katulad ng sinabi nila nasa isip ng tao at pananaw ng tao yan. its not matter of condition but a matter of choice. kung gusto mong maging maligaya/panatag o maging malungkot no matter what condition you are in, nasa atin iyan. the presence of everything that you wish for does not guarantee hapiness, even freedom. marami kasing tao sa paningin ko na sapat ang kalayaan pero gusto pa ariin yung mundo. contentment: di nyo ba napansin nung college all you want was to finish your degree and be employed. nung employed ka na gusto mo naman tumaas sweldo, tapos manager, tapos vp ka etc. the desire to achieve more is God given and therefore not wrong. just be prepared to take pains that go with it kung mataas ang pangarap mo. sa akin mali na akalain na nasa pangarap mo yung kaligayahan mo. feelings of emotions are all temporary. ;D ever heard of the expression " some people are willing to do anything/everything to be able to do nothing." how ironic di ba? ubod ng yaman itong may ari nitong company namin pero alam ko tumatawa lang ito pag may kausap sa telepono just to make a good impression. pagbaba na pagbaba murahan na naman ;D ;D ;D sana mali ako.
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Post by weekendrider on Mar 1, 2005 15:00:19 GMT 8
What is a good life? Is it a life free of worries or is it a feeling one has who don't worry about problem, or is it a life a person have who is happy with what he has be it plenty or little. Is it possible to have a good life? I believe we all do at some point in our life. Remember when we were very young and innocent. Just play and eat.
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Post by Onie on Mar 1, 2005 16:54:55 GMT 8
onie, paki translate mo nga ito sa ingles o pilipino. ;D ;D ;D quote] Isang magandang halimbawa siguro ng pananaw ko ay panahon ng ikalawang pandaigdigan digmaan. Para sa akin sumiklab ito sa dahilang ang iba sa atin ay sakim sa kapangyarihan at mga iba pang makamundong bagay (ayon sa history isang bagay na naging maliwanag sa Nazis: world domination) isang malinaw na pagpapakita nito na ang tao ay sadyang nabubulag sa kapangyarihan. Greed for power & wealth. At sa pagkakasiglab ng nasabing digmaan, ang buong mundo ay nabulabog. Nawala ang dating kapayapaan. At ang naging sanhi nito nasira ang pamumuhay ng sankatauhan. Dumating sa isang sandali, ang mga pangunahin pangangailangan ng tao ay salat dahil nga nawindang ng nasabing digmaan. Kaya pumasok na rito yon "survival of the fittest". Samakatuwid, kaya ko naitanong: And if we are really in dire situation is there such innate sense of what is right or wrong. Or is it just all survival? A trip down to memory lane, that is... Well, I still remember my university professor went way, way too far for us just to point out some things which are often quite ignored. During that session in my graduate studies (which right now I'm on leave for the whole 1st semester, AY 05-06), he once said: It could be said that some leaders (more likely the extremists) will go to practically any lengths to retain their positions of power. The rhetoric of this controversy strikingly evidences just how strongly they feel about it and, by implication, how little they think of their brethren/ mankind. I've seen the light here! By what my UP prof blurted out: My reason for sketching these behavior is to pull the rug out from under any attempt to appeal to natural science, medicine or the so-called human science. In addition to his lecture, he also said: I will not settle for this, and I'll bet you won't either. It only takes a moment to see why. Try this: 'She has "personality".' 'She has "character".' 'She has a good personality.' 'She has a good character.' Not the same things at all, are they? What's the difference? English and English are perfectly clear about this. Their next definition says just what I hoped it would: 'an integrated system of traits or behavior tendencies that enables one to react, despite obstacles, in a relatively consistent way in relation to mores and moral issues... It is distinguished from personality by its emphasis upon (a) the volitional aspect, and (b) morality' (English & English, 1958, p. 83). Well, I guess that somehow answered my query. It really depends on the person. How strong is his foundations(principles & stuffs) for him not to be easily be fooled. Just passing by... for sharing your precious time in reading. All apologies for the discomfort it may have cost you. Ay naku! 2nd sem na naman! Nde bali matagal-tagal pa naman!
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Post by fullspeed on Mar 1, 2005 17:01:18 GMT 8
Good life = when you know how to count your blessings and be thankful for the rewards of your labor Not a good life = when you count your blessings and compare it with others' blessings.. then feel bad with what you don't have Ang sa akin lang naman
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Post by basti on Mar 1, 2005 17:16:19 GMT 8
Good life = when you know how to count your blessings and be thankful with the rewards of your labor Not a good life = when you count your blessings and compare it with others' blessings.. then feel bad with what you don't have Ang sa akin lang naman i deffinitely agree with you, fullspeed...
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Post by Ben Dover on Mar 1, 2005 17:45:36 GMT 8
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Post by Onie on Mar 1, 2005 18:22:07 GMT 8
Hello, Sir Tolits! Sensya na't napahaba po... hardcore prof ko sa mga ganyan. Walang himala! Kaya nga po nun simulang nag-leave ako from school... Medyo mahimbing na ko ulit! Just sharing what I've learned from peyUPs... Hehehe! Thanks again.
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Post by allegra on Mar 1, 2005 20:21:11 GMT 8
Irish proverb yata to- In times of celebration , disaster is just around the corner
dehins ata pwede wwalang problema ang tao There are always challenges along the way
The good life is an illusion
naks
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Post by gulliver on Mar 1, 2005 21:46:08 GMT 8
Conrad de Quiros once wrote, "there is a difference between a good life and the good life." i think this is very relevant to our discussion here....a big difference between " a good life" and " the good life". thanks for bringing that up ygolote
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Post by whoopi on Mar 2, 2005 10:22:22 GMT 8
to achieve a certain level of hapiness we have to learn to apprciate the things we have. life is good if you think it is. amen!
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Post by Onie on Mar 2, 2005 12:18:58 GMT 8
Nothing is good or bad. Thinking makes it so. »-»William Shakespeare
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Post by feline13 on Mar 2, 2005 14:55:31 GMT 8
Nothing is good or bad. Thinking makes it so. »-»William Shakespeare therefore, think not.
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Post by gwm..."GRASS-HAPA" on Mar 2, 2005 16:17:26 GMT 8
therefore, think not. ...ang ganda nun... good one! ;D ;D ;D
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Post by alien_scream on Mar 2, 2005 18:28:49 GMT 8
A person could live with failure but not with the excuse that took away his right to fail!!!!!!!
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Post by gonz on Mar 2, 2005 19:14:08 GMT 8
i think "the good life" is relative. depende sa tao. what is good for one may not be "that good" for the other. nasa view nang bawat tao what he considers "the good life". there is, however, an "ideal life". a life most of us look forward to have.
- a happy family - a stable job - a future . . . - etc.
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Post by clutchshooter on Mar 2, 2005 21:27:33 GMT 8
therefore, think not. Hey, Sis... Nudge me if it does work for you... :music4:
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