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Post by gulliver on Feb 10, 2005 9:11:45 GMT 8
sa pagka-alam ko, these bracelets are bought for 100 dollars for 100 pieces...as a minimum donation to the Lance Armstrong Cancer Foundation. So why is it being sold here at over PhP 150 pesos? i.e. almost 3 dollars? doesn't sound right to me...
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Post by redline on Feb 10, 2005 9:57:16 GMT 8
you're right. the bracelet actually costs a dollar only plus sales tax. (but i don't think you have to buy a hundred of them to make a contribution. i only got one.) two million of those were made. the money goes to funding the Lance Armstrong Foundation to help those who have been diagnosed with cancer.
retail of that wristband here ranges from a low of Php 150 to a high of Php 450. naging status symbol kasi bec a lot of famous personalities both here and abroad wear it. (can you say angelina jolie? drop dead gorgeous but i digress... ) and they are difficult to source. even my relatives in the states have a hard time looking for them.
strictly speaking, you can't re-sell or auction these wristbands off. unethical according to the foundation.
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Post by gulliver on Feb 10, 2005 15:00:15 GMT 8
i agree...unethical at the very least. if you sell these things, they should be done so at cost to allow the donor to partially recover his cost.
redline, wouldn't you have bought your single wristband from a donor store? and not directly from the foundation? just wondering...
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Post by redline on Feb 10, 2005 15:54:42 GMT 8
my friend got it from a donor store when he went to the states. a dollar each plus tax. gave one to me as pasalubong. he got twenty pieces yata and gave them away to his other friends.
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Post by gulliver on Feb 10, 2005 16:26:42 GMT 8
my friend got it from a donor store when he went to the states. a dollar each plus tax. gave one to me as pasalubong. he got twenty pieces yata and gave them away to his other friends. ok, thought so
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Post by blackmagic on Feb 10, 2005 17:33:52 GMT 8
I got mine for $10 for the 10-pack. I had it shipped here for $9. so $1.90 each lumalabas. Ubos na agad in a matter of days. Gave them away to friends and relatives who in one way or another had a cancer tale to tell. I wear one in memory of my late Aunt whom i consider my 2nd mom.
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Post by gwm..."GRASS-HAPA" on Feb 10, 2005 22:23:26 GMT 8
'ey guys if you think about it: cost of the bracelet+ tax+ shipping, the guy who sells this for P150-160 isn't making much anyway. as bad as it may sound but you really can't expect somebody to do this for charity over here now do you? i believe in it and i think its a great cause. my take on it... paying approximately less than three dollars all the way here in the philippines for something that costs roughly two dollars in the states isn't so bad. i wear it proudly in honor of my mom whom i'd lost to cancer december of 2003. ...my two cents
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Post by jr on Feb 10, 2005 22:48:25 GMT 8
Guys... also some of them are iminatation and not going to cancer fund
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Post by Onie on Feb 10, 2005 23:02:41 GMT 8
Guys... also some of them are iminatation and not going to cancer fund Yes, lalo na yon mga bracelets sa may Quiapo binebenta... Just to add here...
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Post by whoopi on Feb 11, 2005 20:42:47 GMT 8
Guys... also some of them are iminatation and not going to cancer fund someone just gifted me with a livestrong bracelet. it came with a packaging na may explanation about lance armstrong's effort for cancer victims. pero yung bracelet, sa ilalim, may "made in china". fake ba ito?
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Post by gwm..."GRASS-HAPA" on Feb 11, 2005 21:35:16 GMT 8
nope, its really made in china
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Post by sworksmike on Feb 11, 2005 21:43:53 GMT 8
Yan yung orig pare basta nakapack ng laf.org ba yun, yung iba kasi respex nakalagay sa bracelet dehins livestrong. Got mine from a friend from the us who made a donation to the org.
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Post by maxbuwaya on Feb 11, 2005 21:56:06 GMT 8
sa case na ito ang daming nagsusuot ng peke and most of them dehins nila alam kung bakit, dehins nila alm na may malalim na reason ang pagsusuot, sa iba isa lamang itong Fad.
Ang iba pa nga daw kaya nagsususot uso daw kasi sa NBA kaya sila nagsusuot, ballerbands daw
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Post by blackmagic on Feb 12, 2005 11:53:32 GMT 8
Tama si Pareng Maxbutiki, I am wearing it not for fashion but as support to LAF and in memory of my aunt.
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Post by gulliver on Feb 28, 2005 22:25:04 GMT 8
'ey guys if you think about it: cost of the bracelet+ tax+ shipping, the guy who sells this for P150-160 isn't making much anyway. as bad as it may sound but you really can't expect somebody to do this for charity over here now do you? i believe in it and i think its a great cause. my take on it... paying approximately less than three dollars all the way here in the philippines for something that costs roughly two dollars in the states isn't so bad. i wear it proudly in honor of my mom whom i'd lost to cancer december of 2003. ...my two cents much as i'm sorry to learn that your mom passed away due to cancer gwm, i still think its absolutely unethical to make money off what is obviously a fund-raiser for Lance's cancer foundation. nobody outside of the foundation was ever expected to make money out of it downstream. if you really believe in the cause, give the bracelets you bought to your friends and family...and rest in the thought that you have contributed to a worthwhile foundation that's my thought on the matter brad
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Post by gwm..."GRASS-HAPA" on Feb 28, 2005 22:39:48 GMT 8
much as i'm sorry to learn that your mom passed away due to cancer gwm, i still think its absolutely unethical to make money off what is obviously a fund-raiser for Lance's cancer foundation. nobody outside of the foundation was ever expected to make money out of it downstream. if you really believe in the cause, give the bracelets you bought to your friends and family...and rest in the thought that you have contributed to a worthwhile foundation that's my thought on the matter brad unethical? sure when the price's absolutely exorbitant. but when i'm charged an amount i don't consider an absolute rip-off hey i can't go all the way to the states just to get myself some bracelets. livestrong bracelets aren't just for cancer victims, they're for people who support cancer research. hey, if i've got to pay about $3 here to make a $1 contribution so be it. but i won't allow myself to get ripped off by paying $5-$10 per bracelet because thats just freaking highway robbery. but thats just my take on it
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Post by maxbuwaya on Feb 28, 2005 22:43:17 GMT 8
They say processed foods is one of the reason why we have cancer.
Maybe we could just wear hotdogs intead of eating them
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Post by fullspeed on Feb 28, 2005 23:03:04 GMT 8
Meron din ako nyan - my good friend Cheapride Ivan gave it to me. Blackmagic also bought several of those in the internet and gave them away, so did another friend....
What do they have in common? They do it to help the foundation, and in memory of loved ones lost to cancer
So it may be true that some people still choose not to profit from these bracelets
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Post by whoopi on Mar 1, 2005 12:02:45 GMT 8
commerce may seem cold-hearted, pero that's precisely what the bracelets were made for, di ba? they were hoping people down the line (since they obviously can't do a one-on-one distribution) would take up the selling. if we want to contribute lang to cancer research, why buy at all, e di donate straight off. the sad reality is, if you asked someone to give $10 as straight donation, they won't easily give. but if they want something bad, they'll pay even more than that to get it, whether or not it goes to a good cause or not. because the bracelets have become a "status symbol" of some sort, and a desirable object because there are only a limited number of them in the world, people will pay to get it. i think the organizers realize that, kaya nga limited lang pinroduce nila. they surrendered to market forces to raise money. it seems crass, and it may be disturbing to think about, but it's how things work. that's my two-cents' take on the topic.
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Post by maxbuwaya on Mar 1, 2005 19:10:17 GMT 8
i agree just give it directly.
Nagiging iba din kasi kapag may komersiyalismo na
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Post by Bikester on Mar 3, 2005 15:27:28 GMT 8
I got may livestong bracelet from BlackMagic,he gave it for free.
Well if you want to make money out of this bracelets,why not sell the other colors with nike on it.
As for the yellow one I hope people will leave these as a bacelet for a cause.
On the other hand, different people have different thoughts.
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Post by blackmagic on Mar 10, 2005 16:50:05 GMT 8
on a related note, From ThePaceline.com: Lance's appearance on Oprah last month was inspiring, insightful, and emotional. showing a side of Lance not usually revealed in public. On the broadcast, Oprah challenged the world to break the single-day yellow band sales record. The response was overwhelming. Read about it www.thepaceline.com/members/lancenewsitem.aspx?cid=810
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Post by closer on Mar 19, 2005 14:09:43 GMT 8
some people would do anything to make a buck. it's sickening. glad that there're decent people out there. also glad to have found them in this group. kudos PinoyMTBiker!
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Post by fullspeed on Mar 19, 2005 20:57:13 GMT 8
Welcome aboard closer
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Post by closer on Mar 22, 2005 19:02:06 GMT 8
Welcome aboard closer thanks for the welcome! been a lurker for quite sometime now.
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