Newbie SS Question

[sup]

makoy, i need a 20t cog, but i couldn't find any ;D

[itan]

Mrs. M, Schwing and Makoy, thanks for the encouragement and for giving a better picture of what to expect.

Lui-G, yup. I'm the one with the blue vision. That's great for you to do it non-stop. The only thing non-stop for me is the above maximum heart rate ;D ;D ;D Didn't notice you. I must be too tired to notice any SS. A young female jogger even told me, " Manong, kaya pa?". hahahaha I responded to her with full confidence, "kayang-kaya pa. . . nung bike. . . ako. . . ewan." And a veteran biker asked also, "Stucked-up?" which I responded, "Opo, nagstuck-up ...yung rider." It was my first SS climb with lots of alaska (trans. humorous comments) also.

Actually, I never thought about doing the tahi-tian move last Saturday and yesterday. I opted to pause for a while. I just saw a rider doing that on my way back yesterday when I realized that I forgot a very important trick. I usually go to Maarat every Sat morning. I'l make sure I'll look for SS'er before going up and find a riding buddy. Hope to see you there.

[Aaronchicharon]

hi guys... newbie ss'er here... just recently converted my bike to a 32/18 ss.

question:

what's the difference between 7/8 speed chain and bmx chain? do bmx chains have bigger/wider holes?

i'm currently using 7/8 speed chain but i noticed my chain gets stuck on the rear cog. this doesn't happen on the flats. it usually happens during climbs especially those steep ones.

somebody told me i should use a bmx chain masmalaki raw yung holes... is it true? will a bmx chain save me from those gruelling climbs?

[sup]

Aaronchicharon, maybe the problem is the chain line. A bmx chain's width is much wider and it will help compensate if you don't find the perfect chain line. Most SS'ers have spare chains and don't want to spend on a new chain. Like me, I use an 8 speed chain, and have a 7 speed chain that I used before when my bike was setup 42-18 for bike commutes.

A bmx chain won't save you from gruelling climbs ;D

OT: My gulay (Trans: my vegetable), your avatar is morbid! I have a pic of my toe similar to that, but mine was due to ingrown. ;D

[Makoy]

ingrown? or 53x17 up antipolo?

and practice makes babies, perfect babies

are IG chains 8 speed chains? currently using them on my SS, are they intrinsically noisy?

[sup]

53-17, were you wearing a mouthpiece when you did that climb? ;D

I use an IG chain and it's noisy too. I'm not sure if my chain is really dirty, that it still gets squeaky (after a few KMs) no matter how much lube I put in it. The lube I use is finish line wet/dry spray type.

[Aaronchicharon]

guys... 32-18 only for me... 53-17 is crazy... maybe on downhills thats possible...

[Makoy]

i dreamt about it all night ;P and i rode on that gear from our house to the meeting place in marcos hiway and didnt bother changing gears. i started standing after the 1sr right hander till the recovery part after the torn down padi's. actually it wasn't that excruciating as i imagined sorry i was a crazy sissy since i rode a roadbike chorva

yes 32x18 will be fine, id love to try 32x16 on the mtb and hope not to conk out

[sup]

tabs did it, boyet camba did it, you could do it! ;D

i need to pray over my legs when that day comes

[bobby]

@ makoy, yes IG Shimano chains are for 7/8 speeds and so are the HG's. why? how noisy do they get? works good for me. are your chain rings Al? maybe a factor. i use only steel chain rings for my SS's.

[bobby]

May 13, 2008 12:52:34 GMT 8 Aaronchicharon said:

hi guys... newbie ss'er here... just recently converted my bike to a 32/18 ss.

question:

what's the difference between 7/8 speed chain and bmx chain? do bmx chains have bigger/wider holes?

i'm currently using 7/8 speed chain but i noticed my chain gets stuck on the rear cog. this doesn't happen on the flats. it usually happens during climbs especially those steep ones.

somebody told me i should use a bmx chain masmalaki raw yung holes... is it true? will a bmx chain save me from those gruelling climbs?

7/8 spd chains are narrower than bmx specific chains. these 7/8 spd chains are designed for cogsets and for geared bicycles, but they won't complain if you use them for SS.

if you happen to use a 7/8 spd chain on a FREEWHEEL SCREW TYPE SPROCKET CHANCES ARE THEY WOULd stuck-up on the teeth of the sprocket.

it happens usually during climbs because there is more tension during those times and the chain is pressed more in between (that is if you are using frewheel screw type sprockets with the narrower 7/8 spd chain).

[Aaronchicharon]

thanks guys... will try changing to bmx chains... hopefully i could conquer the climb this time... coz i have no more excuses.

[schwinng]

May 14, 2008 1:18:50 GMT 8 Aaronchicharon said:

thanks guys... will try changing to bmx chains... hopefully i could conquer the climb this time... coz i have no more excuses.

Try it, I too run BMX chains on my SS and my fixie. Never once had a problem with them. Try KMC's Kool chain, they also come in various colors as well.

[Aaronchicharon]

ok thanks... how much are the kmc kool chains? and where to get it?

[Lui-G]

Cycle Options sells KMC chains, not sure if they have the colored ones though.

HTH

[itan]

got my KMC chain from raven (PinoyMTBiker) / ben in UP. I tried the BMX chain but i find it too heavy making it an extra burden for the tensioner. It is wider also that somehow causes an unusual sound. . . but the BMX chain still works well. I find the KMC single speed specific chain to be better. it is narrower than the BMX chain. definitely lighter ensuring uniform / proper tension despite the inevitable jumps of the tracks.

just my .02

[Dakarider]

May 12, 2008 14:09:15 GMT 8 bobby said:

the last time i did the wall was using my geared bike, the gears were at 34/34 and had to stop as it was already about to do a wheelie and my knees were giving up on me, this was the steepest part i think so. i have never tried my SS's at the wall. i was thinking if a geared one makes it difficult for me what more on a SS. my gear combo on my 2 SS's are 36X18 and 34X17 they are both my commuter and messenger bikes tried them at Canley road in Pasig but assumed the Kiss of Death position to do it. my question would it be doable to use this combo conquering the wall? i bike all the way to MOntalban from Valenzuela, so by the time i hit the wall exhausted already.

Same question: Is it possible to climb the "Wall" w/ a 36X18 ratio? It's so difficult to find a 20T rear cog

[Makoy]

May 18, 2008 20:42:13 GMT 8 Dakarider said:

Same question: Is it possible to climb the "Wall" w/ a 36X18 ratio? It's so difficult to find a 20T rear cog

possible po, i already saw a couple

[Dakarider]

May 12, 2008 14:48:23 GMT 8 sup said:

makoy, i need a 20t cog, but i couldn't find any ;D

Found a cromo Surly 20T rear cog at Sabak, P. Tamo

[sup]

thanks Dakarider!

[flipnidaho]

May 18, 2008 20:42:13 GMT 8 Dakarider said:

May 12, 2008 14:09:15 GMT 8 bobby said:

the last time i did the wall was using my geared bike, the gears were at 34/34 and had to stop as it was already about to do a wheelie and my knees were giving up on me, this was the steepest part i think so. i have never tried my SS's at the wall. i was thinking if a geared one makes it difficult for me what more on a SS. my gear combo on my 2 SS's are 36X18 and 34X17 they are both my commuter and messenger bikes tried them at Canley road in Pasig but assumed the Kiss of Death position to do it. my question would it be doable to use this combo conquering the wall? i bike all the way to MOntalban from Valenzuela, so by the time i hit the wall exhausted already.

Same question: Is it possible to climb the "Wall" w/ a 36X18 ratio? It's so difficult to find a 20T rear cog

I use a 32X20 and it's possible to climb the Wall non-stop from Aling Tina's to Giant... 32X18 is do-able also... 36X18 would be hard without stopping... I run a 36X16 for commuting to the trailhead for reference...

[bobby]

@ gary , i would like to try the wall using single speed. any suggestions on my gearing combo i only have a 36 t chainring to date, but lots of cogs to go with it. i also use my 16 t with the 36 everyday as my messenger bicycle. please advise. TY.

[flipnidaho]

B,
Try to get a 32 or 34 chainring with a 20 or 21 in the back (or even a 32X18). You can definitely use a higher gear but you'll find yourself stopping a few times. As it is, I already have to slow down and sit and grind in the short recovery sections with a 32X20 but it's do-able non-stop. I basically stand up and climb from the resort on the left at the start of the wall up to the last switch back right before it flattens out before the store on the right (Mang Romy's?) before the Timberland gate.

[bobby]

Try to get a 32 or 34 chainring with a 20 or 21 in the back (or even a 32X18).

okay, i'll see if i can borrow a 32. i might slap on 20. thanks for taking time.

[sukat]

sir im newbie here, i recently use 32x16T, but it a little bit heavy for my wife, id like to ask if i can use 8-speed cassette, as 8-speed cassette can be remove separately so i can select either 18 or 20T for my SS? please help....thanks!

[sukat]

sir im newbie here, i recently use 32x16T, but it a little bit heavy for my wife, id like to ask if i can use 8-speed cassette, an 8-speed cassette can be remove separately so i can select either 18 or 20T for my SS? please help....thanks!

[kenz]

Sir is it ok if i use sram cogs to xt cranks. Btw ill be getting xt crank single speed 32t then my cogs will be 10 x 42. Is this good or not? Need help. Newbie here

[xmayor]

kenz, do you mean you're going for a 1 x 10 drive train set-up? if yes, then your 32t is good pero bitin on flats and downhill. Btw, you just posted on a single speed (1 x 1) thread.