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Post by Alphabolt on Apr 20, 2008 21:23:56 GMT 8
There are halflinks at Gran Trail Bikeshop, Westgate ...I dont know of any other shop that has em. Maybe Cycle Options has em as well
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Post by Aaronchicharon on Apr 24, 2008 20:38:43 GMT 8
i currently have a 27 speed bike... and i want to make it into a 1 speed bike...
aside from the tensioner and conversion kit and strong legs... what else do i need? i'm planning to use it on trail rides with some uphill sections.
what chain to use? i have a spare chain from a low end bike (21 speed). will that do?
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Post by cherrybomber on Apr 24, 2008 21:51:35 GMT 8
yep. the chunkier the chain the better  of course you have to check for chain wear on an old chain to before you slap it on. if not any old 8speed chain is fine. thats all you need to get going really. you can always upgrade later to whatever you find better as you go along. |
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Post by Aaronchicharon on Apr 24, 2008 22:28:15 GMT 8
what about magic links? is it safe to use chain magic links?
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Post by Dakarider on Apr 24, 2008 22:54:45 GMT 8
Sire Andre Use whichever frame fits you better. As for gear ratio, it's quite subjective. But a lot of riders start off with 32x18 and adjust upwards or downwards according to personal preference. Just make sure you have a means of securing the chain (use a tensioner) V-brakes are perfectly fine. On a SS (especially on the trails) you'll learn how to keep momentum, brake smarter and look for the fastest/smoothest lines. Good luck and post pics! Sir 32X18, Base on experience, would a 36x18 gear ratio work? I know most start on a 32x18 but due to budget cuts the only thing I have now is a 36T.  |
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Post by wcoastbo on Apr 25, 2008 1:35:37 GMT 8
what about magic links? is it safe to use chain magic links? hmmm... I'm not sure what a "magic link" is. I know master links, used on most BMX chains. Quick links, a la SRAM. Half-links, to help shorten a chain. Could you show a pic of a magic link? I'm not fully versed in all bicycle terminology. That being said, SS drivetrains are very simple and less prone to failure compared to a geared drivetrain. The use of a tensioner makes it a bit more complicated depending on which one. None of the above links should cause a problem on most tensioners, unless you're using a dual pulley type (you might as well have gears if your're using this). |
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Post by wcoastbo on Apr 25, 2008 1:51:49 GMT 8
Dakarider, a 2:1 gear works just fine for SS. Lot's of people use this ratio, but it will be a bit tough on long steep climbs for the new SSer. I started with a lower gear so that I didn't get discouraged on our long climbs while I was still finding my SS legs. This all depends on your local terrain. If it's mostly rolling hills without steep long climbs, you're fine.
Go to several bikes shops and ask to look in their discard parts bin. Try to find a old steel 20T BMX cog or 21T cog from an old cassette. Offer them P20 for it. 36x20 is very close to 32x18.
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Post by Aaronchicharon on Apr 25, 2008 2:38:21 GMT 8
what about magic links? is it safe to use chain magic links? hmmm... I'm not sure what a "magic link" is. I know master links, used on most BMX chains. Quick links, a la SRAM. Half-links, to help shorten a chain. Could you show a pic of a magic link? I'm not fully versed in all bicycle terminology. That being said, SS drivetrains are very simple and less prone to failure compared to a geared drivetrain. The use of a tensioner makes it a bit more complicated depending on which one. None of the above links should cause a problem on most tensioners, unless you're using a dual pulley type (you might as well have gears if your're using this). yep i think it's ala sram (a tool free way to remove the chain) made by TAYA. |
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Post by Dakarider on Apr 25, 2008 7:42:59 GMT 8
Dakarider, a 2:1 gear works just fine for SS. Lot's of people use this ratio, but it will be a bit tough on long steep climbs for the new SSer. I started with a lower gear so that I didn't get discouraged on our long climbs while I was still finding my SS legs. This all depends on your local terrain. If it's mostly rolling hills without steep long climbs, you're fine. Go to several bikes shops and ask to look in their discard parts bin. Try to find a old steel 20T BMX cog or 21T cog from an old cassette. Offer them P20 for it. 36x20 is very close to 32x18. Thanks for the reply Sir. I will do that. At present, whats your gear ratio? Do you change your ratio often base on your ride for the day? If so, what gears should I keep spare for use to different types of terrain? |
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Post by cherrybomber on Apr 25, 2008 7:44:25 GMT 8
ouuuuuch...... how about increasing the number of rear cog teeth to compensate for the 36? can anyone here compute the ratio? im to lazy to dig up the computation. hehehee im guessing maybe a 24T in the back? if you're just going to break an old cog for your rear anyway you can always mix and match till you get something you are comfortable with. Sire Andre Use whichever frame fits you better. As for gear ratio, it's quite subjective. But a lot of riders start off with 32x18 and adjust upwards or downwards according to personal preference. Just make sure you have a means of securing the chain (use a tensioner) V-brakes are perfectly fine. On a SS (especially on the trails) you'll learn how to keep momentum, brake smarter and look for the fastest/smoothest lines. Good luck and post pics! Sir 32X18, Base on experience, would a 36x18 gear ratio work? I know most start on a 32x18 but due to budget cuts the only thing I have now is a 36T. |
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Post by Patrick on Apr 25, 2008 8:12:34 GMT 8
32/18 is more or less like 36/20, why not 36/18 as recommended by Randal.
Formula:
32 / 18 = 36 / x
x = (36 / 32) * (18)
x = 20.25
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Post by nikkocholo on Apr 25, 2008 15:34:25 GMT 8
Ha? So difficult Pat math again? hehehe that set up will be a burst... |
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Post by wcoastbo on Apr 26, 2008 1:52:43 GMT 8
Thanks for the reply Sir. I will do that. At present, whats your gear ratio? Do you change your ratio often base on your ride for the day? If so, what gears should I keep spare for use to different types of terrain? I use 36x20 with a half-link because it fits my frame without a tensioner (its my magic gear). I don't like tensioners. I would use 32x18 because those sizes are more readily available and it's lighter, why use more metal when less will do the exact same job. I don't change my gear depending on terrain, but my road SS has a much taller gear than my dirt SS. I have lots of different sized chainrings and cogs so I can find the magic gear for almost any frame. With a half-link, DIY eno hub, chains in various degrees of "stretch", you can find a tensionerless gear combo with almost any frame. Collect used chains from your gearie friends (you may never have to buy a new chain again). If it's not too stretched you can use it it for a few hundred km or gets too loose and starts to falls off or skip. Also, I use steel cogs and rings. A stretched chain will destroy aluminum ones in short order. The best thing to do is find an older steel mtb with semi-horizontal dropouts. good luck and show us pics of your current build. someone might have good suggestions for your build. As I building my 69er the suggestions from the group helped me alot. |
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Post by Dakarider on Apr 30, 2008 20:15:43 GMT 8
Thanks for the reply Sir. I will do that. At present, whats your gear ratio? Do you change your ratio often base on your ride for the day? If so, what gears should I keep spare for use to different types of terrain? I use 36x20 with a half-link because it fits my frame without a tensioner (its my magic gear). I don't like tensioners. I would use 32x18 because those sizes are more readily available and it's lighter, why use more metal when less will do the exact same job. I don't change my gear depending on terrain, but my road SS has a much taller gear than my dirt SS. I have lots of different sized chainrings and cogs so I can find the magic gear for almost any frame. With a half-link, DIY eno hub, chains in various degrees of "stretch", you can find a tensionerless gear combo with almost any frame. Collect used chains from your gearie friends (you may never have to buy a new chain again). If it's not too stretched you can use it it for a few hundred km or gets too loose and starts to falls off or skip. Also, I use steel cogs and rings. A stretched chain will destroy aluminum ones in short order. The best thing to do is find an older steel mtb with semi-horizontal dropouts. good luck and show us pics of your current build. someone might have good suggestions for your build. As I building my 69er the suggestions from the group helped me alot. My 36x18 ;D:  |
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Post by bobby on May 1, 2008 10:10:56 GMT 8
very nice indeed. and clean looking.
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Post by wcoastbo on May 2, 2008 1:07:38 GMT 8
very nice indeed! i like the color scheme with the white. also, the headset matching the flames on the seat.
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Post by bobby on May 3, 2008 19:04:47 GMT 8
a golden seat post clamp would look lovely on it, together with skewers of the same color, just a thought.
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Post by thops on May 12, 2008 0:52:16 GMT 8
Help SS gurus. I'm a regular weekend sta. rosa rider and I'm planning to build a SS bike. last sat I was able to conquer cardiac hill with my FS bike with 32x17 but super exhausted.
what gear shall I use 32x16? bacause SS is lighter and HT is more efficient pedaling uphill or 32x18 to be safe?
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Post by schwinng on May 12, 2008 7:30:03 GMT 8
Help SS gurus. I'm a regular weekend sta. rosa rider and I'm planning to build a SS bike. last sat I was able to conquer cardiac hill with my FS bike with 32x17 but super exhausted. what gear shall I use 32x16? bacause SS is lighter and HT is more efficient pedaling uphill or 32x18 to be safe? I'm not at all a SS guru, not much of a guru of anything ;D , but try it, you'd be surprised how "doable" 2:1 is. I've used 32x18 for quite a while and just by luck, I was able to snatch a rear wheel with White Industries ENO hub with a 16t cog, I decided to leave it. I actually just rode my SS and had no problems doing our climbs. I'm sure I'll walk some hills on our tougher trails, but it's not impossible--just a bit more teeth grinning ;D, that's all. Try it and see for yourself. Here's a pic of my "cleaner" look SS (32 x 16)  |
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Post by 32by18 on May 12, 2008 10:19:00 GMT 8
Hi Thops
2:1 should work alright - just keep on riding and you'll get stronger, faster. I heard they paved Cardiac Hill already?
Do remember to ride within your limits though, and do not try to do too much too soon. Allow for ample recovery time between rides (and after climbs!).
Also preserve your momentum, especially if you know there's a climb waiting for you around that bend.
Post pics of your ride!
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Post by itan on May 12, 2008 11:10:40 GMT 8
SS Masters,
I just started SS riding this weekend. It was actually meant to be a house-work commuter bike. It seems that I will riding it more than my FS bike after trying it out in the trails.
I tried riding the wall last Saturday. I managed to finished the climb from Aling Tina to Timberland gate but after 2 dismounts on the steep part. It the part after the left turn from the columbary until the flatter part before the last turn to Ka Tobias. Tried riding it until Giant last yesterday also. I was a blast for me and I look forward to more riding time with my SS.
I plan to ride my SS more to gain the needed strength and technique. I just want to have a benchmark. What is your usual time to ride the wall up to Timberland Gate? When you were starting, how many dismounts did you have? Is the "tahi" move (crisscrossing the road to have a an easier accent and longer recover time) necessary to conquer the wall? Just curious, so I can set realistic goals for myself.
TIA.
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Post by Makoy on May 12, 2008 11:18:59 GMT 8
2 dismounts is not bad. i had 3 when i SSd it the first time...
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Post by schwinng on May 12, 2008 11:19:40 GMT 8
Another tip that might be helpful is not riding your SS rig exclusively . Mix it up and you'll find that you'll get stronger faster. Ride your geared mtb and try a "mashing" gear and if you have access to a road bike, log some tarmac miles. I know that these probably won't work for everyone, it works for me and it might work for you too.
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Post by MrsM on May 12, 2008 12:40:33 GMT 8
Hello Itan! I'm not an ss guru, but I've also tried riding my singlespeed up the wall several times and up until now, I haven't been able to ride it without having to push my bike at the steepest part ;D I've seen one singlespeeder ride non-stop up to ka-tobias, and yes, he used the "tahi move" to accomplish this. Time it took him to climb would be around 15 to 20 mins, but we started from Froy's Place. From Ka tobias to Giant though, the inclines are very singlespeed friendly (I ride a 32x18) and sometimes I feel it's even easier to do it on my lighter singlespeed than my heavy ful-sus bike  |
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Post by Lui-G on May 12, 2008 13:30:45 GMT 8
Hi Itan, If I'm not mistaken, you were the guy on sky blue Vision SS I saw at Aling Tina's last saturday. It was my first time to climb the Wall on SS also that day and I'm very happy with the result as I was able to do it non-stop. Had to make "tahi-tahi" before reaching the recover area though. We should've done it together para mas masaya . |
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Post by NVP on May 12, 2008 13:41:44 GMT 8
Congrats SSenor LuiSSito ... first 'wall' attempt on SS ... non-stop agad  I was about to post it here kaya lang baka OT na naman ;D SSierra naman next time pards |
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Post by sup on May 12, 2008 13:59:11 GMT 8
I had to dismount five times the first time I tried the wall on SS. You're all malupet! |
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Post by bobby on May 12, 2008 14:09:15 GMT 8
the last time i did the wall was using my geared bike, the gears were at 34/34 and had to stop as it was already about to do a wheelie and my knees were giving up on me, this was the steepest part i think so. i have never tried my SS's at the wall. i was thinking if a geared one makes it difficult for me what more on a SS. my gear combo on my 2 SS's are 36X18 and 34X17 they are both my commuter and messenger bikes tried them at Canley road in Pasig but assumed the Kiss of Death position to do it. my question would it be doable to use this combo conquering the wall? i bike all the way to MOntalban from Valenzuela, so by the time i hit the wall exhausted already.
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Post by Makoy on May 12, 2008 14:15:01 GMT 8
32x18 and a bike rack combo  sup, kagatin mo na the offer of sir NVP to go SSierra, maybe i can join you at the foot of foremost hihihihi |
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Post by bobby on May 12, 2008 14:44:42 GMT 8
so its a no way for my combo, thank you Makoy
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of course you have to check for chain wear on an old chain to before you slap it on. if not any old 8speed chain is fine. thats all you need to get going really. you can always upgrade later to whatever you find better as you go along. 
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