Brake pads suggestions? Help

[Patrick]

Ive shifted to Vbrakes in my rear tire. It works well but not well enough. It is set up properly also and im using a brake booster.

After a few weeks of practice, ive begun to land a pedal kick further. Since im suppose to land on the rear tire and the brakes are expected to lock fully.

Sometimes I land and the tire spins a bit about an inch or so before fully locking. As I progress im afraid sooner or later im going to fall on my back again.

So my current option is to grind the rims. My black rubber brakepads simply wont work with a grinded rim so im looking for availability and brand/type of brake pads for grinded rims.

It is similar to a transparent eraser but unfortunately I havent found one. Anybody knows where I can get one? ie Plazmatic spanish fly ata.




BTW im using an XT vbrake on the rear tire. Maguras are not an option or as a last resort.

[apol]

Patrick try getting the Oddesey BMX brakepads (if stores still have it) the compound is very hard and try putting coke on your rims, its kinda noisy and annoying however if it will save you from falling on your back it is worth it, oh you might want to slap on a mp3 player while riding that might solve the noise issues hehehe!

[g.b.b]

apol said:

Patrick try getting the Oddesey BMX brakepads (if stores still have it) the compound is very hard and try putting coke on your rims, its kinda noisy and annoying however if it will save you from falling on your back it is worth it, oh you might want to slap on a mp3 player while riding that might solve the noise issues hehehe!

classic technique..... putting soda on sidewall rims really helps.....i see BMX riders like 15years ago doin this and it really works in their crazy tricks.. you can ask nono (quieslydaddy)........i saw their group before doin this. 1980something

[apol]

yup thats oldschool baby! hehehe imagine doing a pedalpicker without coaster brakes, thats how LOCKED the wheels get if you put soda on the rims. there is one more tip I could give you guys, the brakes will be more powerful than putting coke, its called "koyo plas" you can get it from drugstores, its a green sticky stuff that is used for "pigsa" hehehe! it really works, just dab a bit on your rims. its like the tar that they mention in some of the trials websites however these are not as expensive. when i used to get some before (circa 1988) it was just 1 peso per piece, and you can use it for probably 2 weeks. I use it for old school flatland, cherrypicker, pedalpicker, decades etc ( oops did i give out my age heheheh)

[Patrick]

Hmm koyo plas? I will try to get that. What sucks with coke though is it doesnt last long and it wont work with wet conditions. I really want to get plaz pads and grind my rims.

[deyo]

how about a thin layer of adhesives like rugby or other rubber contact cements on the sides of your rims

[Patrick]

Thats too sticky and might breakdown the compound of the brakepads.

[deyo]

rugby (brand) is tried and tested way back in the 80's with our bmx's rims (plastic rim and steel), braking is great and it never tried to putrefy any break-pads of any brand then. well, I'm still using it now on my mtb with v-brakes. if you're skeptic, try using Elmer's (brand) glue works equally like koyo

[Patrick]

Cool, I will take your word for it...

How do you apply rugby? (How much do I need to apply?) Is it on the rims or pads?

Im willing to try anything better than what I have now. Will it still work in wet conditions?

Thanks

[deyo]

the advantage of rugby compared to Elmer's glue, colas and koyo plas -->it still cling on your pads even on wet conditions. the shortcoming is, its unsightly they're like booger or shite on your rims! put a very thin layer of rugby on your rims and let it dry before using it. in time this compound hardens and becomes brittle and will not be as effective as before---but don't worry it wont affect neither the rim nor your brake pads just the braking power. clean them with kerosene and apply another rugby. good luck!!!! have fun with your bike brad!

[Patrick]

Thanks a lot deyo I will do that.

[Alphabolt]

Very informative thread

I use Ceramic-coated Mavic 217 rims and Ceramic compound pads by Giant..works really well

[Alphabolt]

note: I dont do trials and tricks though..that eliminates my ceramic idea I guess heheheh

[MEG]

on using Coke> it also attracts ants so make sure your cycling shorts or undies are tight enough for ants to not penetrate your most delicate part of your body......... ;D(HEHEHE)
am still using v-brakes on my commuter bike(kinda a heavy set up)but my Pads are still working even on wet, may pads is shimano i dont now if its orig or not I first use rubber pads (soft ones) but it easily worn out i switch to a something thats kinda a hard on the first one but i guess another factor is da rim btw, my rim is a classic ARAYA -japan occasionally check ur rims sometimes oil sleek and other substances get in the way

[Patrick]

UPDATE: I tried using rugby just as instructed however it didnt last 2 minutes on me. I just did some trackstands and some pivots , most of it got stripped from the rims.

Im now searching for some Polyurethane to try making my own brakepads.

[Patrick]

Update:

I just got some 'remedy' courtesy of Joolz, some P5 worth of SAING and syet, ang tindi. My rear tire now locks like shi t.

Also I spoke with Shoti of Davao Trials, I gave some ideas on polyurethane brakepads for grinded rims (the photo above is made of Polyurethane). He's having a mold made for PU for maguras.

BTW this is a grinded rims:

[BrusKO]

Patrick,
And you want that done to your rims?! HARDCORE!!!!!!

[joes]

walang modulation ang brakes mo pag may saing. it's like the new prank we're so fond of doing in UP. pouring coke on rotors.

[anthrax76]

whoa....patrick that's some serious braking you want, he he he.

[kulot_salot]

joes said:

walang modulation ang brakes mo pag may saing. it's like the new prank we're so fond of doing in UP. pouring coke on rotors.

ahh coke... the ever reliable coke... the infamous coke... hehehe...

[deen]

isnt sarsi much stickier?

[Patrick]

brusko said:

Patrick,
And you want that done to your rims?! HARDCORE!!!!!!

Soon... of course I will get some DX32s to grind sayang ang rims..that is if I get some polyurethane brakepads

joes said:

walang modulation ang brakes mo pag may saing. it's like the new prank we're so fond of doing in UP. pouring coke on rotors.

The modulation with Saing is fine for me joes. ;D almost perfect. Imagine modulation on rims with a grind.

hansrey69 said:

isnt sarsi much stickier?

Sticky yes but with some slipage

[joolz01]

the first time i used saing was a few weeks back and my brakes had no modulation coz i put too much... just a very thin coat would do the trick... patrick the one we should thank is mike torno from 43... he told me the trick...

[biketrialsjervy]

where can i buy brake pads like that?

[Patrick]

Jervy you can try using Polyurethane sheet with a durometer 90a more or less as brakepads. You will need a 3/16 (?) thick some slice & dice and superglue to your old magura backing or vee brake backing.




(malapad ang image)

[Patrick]

biketrialsjervy said:

where can i buy brake pads like that?

You can only buy abroad dude around $25 each, made me think twice since it is quite pricey for me ( a person who rides the bike to and from spots).

I am trying to get in touch with a new brand of brake pads for distributorship in the P.I. I'm still making the study.

Do Davao guys prefer HS-33s or vees?

[biketrialsjervy]

i do have magura (color green) for trials.. my co rider too but only local magura for xc.. we use tar for brakes... and for magura brake pads, ngpagawa kami.

[Patrick]

Jervy give me a review on the polyurethane brake pads... If I'm gonna use them polyurethane pads I'm gonna stick with my vees, less setup problem plus I have them vee mounts. But I'm surely gonna grind them rims. I already got a grinder ;D