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Post by alien_scream on Jun 20, 2005 18:19:43 GMT 8
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Post by alien_scream on Jun 20, 2005 18:47:34 GMT 8
here's another one!!!!!!! Trick nb.2. Bunny HOP We assume as you read this text you go out and start to smash all concrete or marble steps in your neighborhood. Let us mention that not all these steps are out there for your bunny hop practice. Not mentioning your neighbors who will not appreciated your new skill either. So don’t leave your brain at home! The very first part of Bunny hop is similar to Down stairs manual. At the right distance before the step you swing your bike and pull bars to your chest. You get the front in the air. The distance before taking the front wheel off the ground depends on the height of an obstacle. The higher the obstacle the longer distance for the take off and opposite. We suggest practicing the swing and pulling up the front on the flat! Reaching the step without being able to pull up the front means more than just bend fork… Now you have to lift the rear wheel. Let’s say we have 30 cm high step. As the front wheel gets just above the front edge of the step, you already must lift the rear wheel. The timing is the most important part of this trick. It differs with a higher or lower step. The rear wheel you lift by tilting the pedal’s platforms with your feet on them and pulling them up by the grip of your shoes sole. You reach the height by bending at the knees and pulling bike under you as much as possible. The tip is not trying to make the step to the rear wheel at once. As you get the front wheel right behind the front edge, transfer your body weight forward to the bars and try to do kind of Endo (no brake use!). Thanks to weight transition you automatically lift the rear wheel. You will roll on the front for while and the inertia gets the rear on the top. Don’t forget 50% of success depends again on the speed so hit the pedals! www.spaceman.cz/main_en.htmlbut i wouldn't recommend this 'coz when you do this you couldn't do the manual after the bunny hop!!!!!!
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Post by lellow on Feb 17, 2006 17:27:27 GMT 8
Uhhh... I know this post is relatively old but It saddened me very much.
I just started bunny hopping recently so I hope the freshness of the experience makes it easier for me to describe. Start out on a flat surface without any obstacles and always wear a helmet and never ever wear a yellow bikini.
First of all there are two things that I practiced before my first hop: 1. Popping the front wheel: =stand up on the pedals so that they're at the same level =while moving or stopped (if you can trackstand) use bend your elbows as much as you can and trasfear all the weight that you can to the front of the bike =like a spring push up your arms and try to lean as far back on the bike as possible =your front tire should leave the ground then... pull!!!! =then lean forward (though gravity will probably bring you back) to land the front wheel again
2.Popping the back wheel: =while at a slow to jogging pace, align your cranks to the ground =take your butt off the seat =bend ankles forward so that both pedals are about 45 to 60 degrees from the horizontal ground =jump and pull the rear up with the friction you got on the pedals Its like jumping with weights attatched to your legs
Bunny hopping is just these two steps done at the same time (or in very close sucession for american style where the front wheel comes up first).
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Post by Patrick on Feb 17, 2006 19:20:12 GMT 8
It took me a long time to learn to bunnyhop, cant perfect it though i keep on having arm problems (weakness in the arms, dont know what it is) when doing bunnyhops, so i come to accept the fact that I may never perfect it. hehe I might concentrate on learning slaps.
Anyway here is a trick i've learned:
Cant seem to figure out how you physically get lifted?(like me) Imagine the bike as a seesaw (but the fulrum is at the rear tires), one end is your hands, the middle your feet and the end is the rear tires. The hands lift the handlebars to propel your feet (pull it fast and hard up to your legs). The rest is lifting the seesaw up to follow your feet. Actually your feet limits the height of the bike.
Kulang ba ang lift? Ito ang secret, the ankles aside from the lift of the bike made by your hands (when you pop the quick manual) or lellow's #1, pop the ankles like ejecting your body right before you pull on the bike with your feet. Then pull up the bike with your legs and push on the handlebars.
I was able to bunnyhop from static the height of my tires (parang si Louie hehe Joke lang po) a few months ago on a tsamba basis hehe.
But it seemed to get lower and lower until I stopped doing it hehe. I need help on my arms. Hmm maybe I should post this on the health thread.
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Post by Lance_R_evo on Feb 17, 2006 21:38:50 GMT 8
this happens when you tend to grip the bars too much, straining you're arms, mostly you're forearms, when you do this,most of your pulling power tends to go to the arms themselves....
one good reason might be a handlebar that's too wide for you. try to measure your shoulders, the bars should be around 2-4" longer than your shoulders.
I ride on 24" bars, which are easier to pull up that the standard 26-27" bars when you buy them..
I've only learned to bunny hop last year, this year my hop mostly goes to around a feet or so, 2 feet is the highest I can do right now, only on occasions, and the slightly narrower bars helps because my arms aren't stretched out too much, since my shoulders are around 18" wide only.
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Post by Patrick on Feb 17, 2006 22:18:16 GMT 8
Thanks for the reply,
my bars are indeed on the wide side it 27 1/2" wide. Forearms are where popeye have his tatoos right?
I feel the weakness occurs between the elbows and the shoulders maybe because i bend my elbows too much? Can that be it? How are you suppose to pullup on the handlebars correctly?
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Post by Lance_R_evo on Feb 18, 2006 5:16:22 GMT 8
yup, the bars should be your main problem, because the bars are wider, you try to bend your arms further back because of the wide bar. most of us Pinoys don't have wide shoulders, so try to get your desired width from that.
try to shorten your bar, you could try cutting 1/2" per, though the most desirable would be 25" for most. 24" like mine is if you're accustomed to it, this width would feel like those BMX freestyle bars.
the reason for the narrower bars is that you can bend your arms more inward towards your chest, instead of backwards (think benchpressing)
of course, try to see how you pull your bars, some tend to pull their bars while still low or crouching on their bike, this tends to make the rider exert more effort at the arms to pull the front up, you should only bend the arms when your about to pop the back wheel up. maybe your also straining your arms because your only using the arms to lift the bike, this is good for riding purposes, mainly getting over curbs or rocks on the trails, the most this type can do is only as high as 1 feet, to go higher you must also use your feet to pull the cranks up, because the back is more like dead weight on the bunnyhop, the only way to lift high enough is to lift it from the pedals.
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Post by lellow on Feb 19, 2006 3:37:14 GMT 8
That's all cool but keep in mind that the length of the bar is a matter of preference as well. The wider, the more control, the slimmer, the more power. You tend to need both control and power in Trials.
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Post by Lance_R_evo on Feb 19, 2006 15:47:37 GMT 8
That's all cool but keep in mind that the length of the bar is a matter of preference as well. The wider, the more control, the slimmer, the more power. You tend to need both control and power in Trials. yes, I agree, but there's a blind spot to that theory there, if you were to read my post, you'll understand that I stated that it should be cut to the riders preferenced width, 26-27" wide bars will give control on downhill, dirt jumps and anyplace where rocks, loose soil and gravel are present. but for us urban riders and trials, a slightly narrower bar will also be helpful. You will still be in full control of your bike, as longa s your bars are slightly wider that your shoulders. you only loose conrtol when your bars are exactly your shoulder width, or narrower.
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Post by Patrick on Feb 19, 2006 17:02:50 GMT 8
I may have to find a work around on the bar width thing, I get tons of leverage on a wide bar. Something that I dont want to loose. Ill update you guys if I loose the muscle weakness right now Im letting it heal.
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Post by alien_scream on Feb 20, 2006 10:14:51 GMT 8
here's a simple thing to do!!!!!
with a plank of wood tie two ropes on both ends!!!! then step on the plank and try hopping!!!! if you just pull on the rope it would be difficult to hop with the plank!!!! but if you hop by yourself then pull the rope MADALI DI BA!!!!!!!
its the same in the bike!!!! just hop first then pull the bike!!!!!
sorry if you couldn't get this!!!!!!!!
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Post by konablack on Feb 21, 2006 20:47:08 GMT 8
Is strength an prerequisite here, im kinda flimsy hehehe
I could bunnyhop but the problem is height, i still can't clear even the Banketa...
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Post by janix on Feb 21, 2006 21:12:12 GMT 8
anyone tried hopping with cleats and high saddles? so when you're on trail, you don't need to lower your seat and uncleat. (hopping like just clearing logs and ruts)
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Post by hance on Feb 22, 2006 2:46:18 GMT 8
Is strength an prerequisite here, im kinda flimsy hehehe I could bunnyhop but the problem is height, i still can't clear even the Banketa... Not necessarily brad. Although strength helps a bit, proper combination of timing and technique is more important. @ janix: Yup, you could bunnyhop clipped in and with high saddles as long as the obstacles are minimal, like clearing small rocks, small holes,etc. However, hopping over larger obstacles would be dangerous, your saddle could hit your chest or face, and making a mistake clipped in is equally dangerous. ride on...
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Post by alien_scream on Feb 22, 2006 9:59:41 GMT 8
Is strength an prerequisite here, im kinda flimsy hehehe I could bunnyhop but the problem is height, i still can't clear even the Banketa... not a prerequisit!!!! (like in school? ) just know how to unweight your bike!!!! to add upper strength even not in the gym!!!! when you wake up in the morning try doing sit-ups and push-ups!!! for me its my daily routine!!!!
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Post by konablack on Feb 24, 2006 20:41:12 GMT 8
I keep on dreaming that I was doing bunnyhops!
What could this mean, does this mean i could be able to bunnyhop, I mean I could visualize how to execute the hop, the BIG problem is, that I could only do it in my dreams huhuhu...
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Post by hance on Feb 25, 2006 1:47:36 GMT 8
I keep on dreaming that I was doing bunnyhops! What could this mean, does this mean i could be able to bunnyhop In your dreams! Haha just kidding ;D Well if that's where you keep on practicing, that's just where you'll only learn. Just like with any skill, practicing wherever and whenever you can definitely helps. It also helps when you have a visual obstacle like a small rock.
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Post by forcebinder on Apr 14, 2006 21:04:24 GMT 8
also...try to lower your bars....if u have spacer better remove them...the lower your bars the higher is ur bunnyhop...i learned this from the guys at bisikleta.com.....hehe but at first medyo mahirap pa mag lift ng front end mo but masanay ka lng sa huli...
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