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Post by hotsauce on Dec 26, 2006 13:03:48 GMT 8
here's ma rig, suggest some parts to be upgraded for freeride....
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Post by hotsauce on Dec 26, 2006 13:06:15 GMT 8
ive changed already my rotors to 8" and RD to XTR 07 thomsonseat post and wtb seats
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Post by Poseur on Dec 26, 2006 13:30:00 GMT 8
u may wanna indicate what type of riding you do on this bike. for one thing it looks like a xc bike so u won't necessarily need 8" rotors.
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Post by BrusKO on Dec 26, 2006 14:21:11 GMT 8
He indicated: freeride.
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Post by wadesingson on Dec 26, 2006 16:04:05 GMT 8
short cage RD and bashguard. Maybe a dual chainguide. If your using dual control levers you may want to look at using a separate trigger and brake lever.
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Post by hotsauce on Dec 26, 2006 17:36:39 GMT 8
yeah i have the xtr short cage im lukin for bashguard now, but i cant find any
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Post by g.b.b on Dec 26, 2006 17:48:59 GMT 8
change fork, about 5, 6 or 7inch travel with 32 to 36mm of stancions (Marzocchi Dropoff, Z1Dropoff, 66VF or 66RC, Z150FR, Fox VAN 36 or Talas 36, Rockshox Boxxer, Rockshox Pike) and rear shocks make it coil with piggyback, FoX DHX is great choice so it can handle 6 to 8feet drops and be sure your handlebar will be thick enough to handle free riding.
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Post by g.b.b on Dec 26, 2006 17:50:14 GMT 8
i almost forgot: the frame too..... ;D choose 5 to 8inch travel
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Post by hotsauce on Dec 26, 2006 18:02:04 GMT 8
yeah i ordered fox talas rlc 32 lng kc...ung 36 kc dehins kaya ng budget na e...tsaka is it true that 36 talas are much heavier than the 32 ?
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Post by hotsauce on Dec 26, 2006 18:04:54 GMT 8
may rear shock are 5-6" travel but air sya not coil
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Post by g.b.b on Dec 26, 2006 18:22:46 GMT 8
yeah i ordered fox talas rlc 32 lng kc...ung 36 kc dehins kaya ng budget na e...tsaka is it true that 36 talas are much heavier than the 32 ? yes it's true. the larger the number the heavier....... 32 means 32mm stancions, 36 mean 36mm stancions....... dont you wanna get another frame? that frame is good for AM (all mountain) and Aggressive XC.......
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Post by Poseur on Dec 26, 2006 18:40:07 GMT 8
sorry. didn't see that sentence below the image. just get rid of that large ring and replace it w/ a bashguard. good enough. wait for anything to break and replace appropriately. if you're riding it hard eventually parts will break. a 5-6" travel fork will do... no more than that.
actually your rear-D (deore) is fine the way it was. i don't think you really need the XTR.
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Post by >rocketman> on Dec 26, 2006 18:50:32 GMT 8
define muna your "freeride"
red bull rampage ba? cliff jumping? freeride din tawag dun heehehehe,
all mountain, agreessive trail/xc riding , urban/street? dh?
the bike set up is ok for it's intended use/application.
that khs frame is for all mountian type of riding (climbing included).
if you like to jump and drop, a chain guide would be nice,
2 ring or single chain ring up front set up.
si boyet makes bash guard pm him.
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Post by hotsauce on Dec 26, 2006 18:53:41 GMT 8
yeah i ordered fox talas rlc 32 lng kc...ung 36 kc dehins kaya ng budget na e...tsaka is it true that 36 talas are much heavier than the 32 ? yes it's true. the larger the number the heavier....... 32 means 32mm stancions, 36 mean 36mm stancions....... dont you wanna get another frame? that frame is good for AM (all mountain) and Aggressive XC....... may frame is still new, i cnt afford to get a new one
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Post by hotsauce on Dec 26, 2006 18:56:53 GMT 8
define muna your "freeride" red bull rampage ba? cliff jumping? freeride din tawag dun heehehehe, all mountain, agreessive trail/xc riding , urban/street? dh? the bike set up is ok for it's intended use/application. that khs frame is for all mountian type of riding (climbing included). if you like to jump and drop, a chain guide would be nice, 2 ring or single chain ring up front set up. si boyet makes bash guard pm him. sori sir newbee ako sa terms na ito ung chain guide, is it chain tensioner ? pics pls
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Post by Mountain Goatee on Dec 26, 2006 19:07:01 GMT 8
Where can we get a good assortment of chain guides (single/dual chain ring) here? Been looking around for quite a while with no luck. BTW, I've seen Truvativ's Box and Shift Guides but unfortunately they won't fit my frame.
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Post by >rocketman> on Dec 26, 2006 19:17:37 GMT 8
:Dchain guide is a device used to keep your chain from falling off the chain ring,
some models use rollers top and bottom others like truvative a "box guide on top".
;Dthe lower roller is place near the chain ring to tension the chain upward to guide it and keep it in place.
dh and fr and jump bikes(except single speed and bmx) require this, bcoz harsh impacts can drop your chain.
usually single chain ring set up up front.
now there's a chain guide for 2 chain ring set up. your can shift between rings and at the same time the chain is secured
truvative chain guide is mounted by ;D ipiting hehehehe it with your bottom bracket
there are frames with chain guide mounts, 3 bolt standard (I.C.G.S. 05 is now the standard for all frame builders) you simply bolt the guide to your frame.
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Post by wadesingson on Dec 26, 2006 19:54:51 GMT 8
if your going to get a shimano bashguard for your bike you will need to get a new set of bolts. the shimano bolts for a triple chainring and the dual chainring with bash have different diameters.
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Post by g.b.b on Dec 26, 2006 20:33:19 GMT 8
yes it's true. the larger the number the heavier....... 32 means 32mm stancions, 36 mean 36mm stancions....... dont you wanna get another frame? that frame is good for AM (all mountain) and Aggressive XC....... may frame is still new, i cnt afford to get a new one then make it your 2nd priority..... just like what posuer told you...... if you're riding it hard eventually parts will break......... freeride is not an easy riding style...... did you just like it becoz "freeride" is cool word to hear if somebody asked you "Pare anong riding style mo?" you'll say "Freeride ako dude"...... astig diba??? but in reality you really cant ride as what freeriders do....... so before investing on a freeride components be sure that you can handle it well..... be sure to accept hairline fracture, dislocated collar bone, swelling twisted ankle coz that's what freeride's consequences....... i hope i didnt offend you. this is just an input. tama si rocketman.....your frame is good for all mountain.... and the Fox Talas 32 that you ordered is for XC and AM and mild FR....
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Post by janix on Dec 26, 2006 21:03:04 GMT 8
all mountain is way far from freeriding. If your frame is designed for AM, don't try to use it on FR, baka sumakit lang katawan mo, and bulsa mo. Although, you could use it to jump small drops (small compared to what FR does)
If you want to go FR, take what GBB said. Change your frame, get a sturdier one. Obviously your impression of FR is jumping cliffs, jumping buildings, Roam, The Collective, Red Bull Rampage, etc. so DJ and UA is out of the scenario. unless what you really want to do is do some tricks like Patrick.
Definition of Terms: AM - All Mountain FR - Freeride DJ - Dirt Jumping UA - Urban Assault The Collective - Mountain biking movie (mostly freeride) Roam - Part 2 of The Collective Red Bull Rampage - freeride competition Patrick - the PinoyMTBiker member who likes rigid bikes and uses it for crazy stunts GBB - Goodboybrionne; the guy who usually has subscript on his posts Janix - The handsome dude (no questions asked)
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Post by puregutz on Dec 26, 2006 22:29:13 GMT 8
freeride is not an easy riding style...... did you just like it becoz "freeride" is cool word to hear if somebody asked you "Pare anong riding style mo?" you'll say "Freeride ako dude"...... astig diba??? but in reality you really cant ride as what freeriders do....... so before investing on a freeride components be sure that you can handle it well..... be sure to accept hairline fracture, dislocated collar bone, swelling twisted ankle coz that's what freeride's consequences....... i hope i didnt offend you. this is just an input. Rightly said brionne. hotsauce: i think you will enjoy riding more if you have the right bike for the type of riding you do. We can help you more if you can tell us exactly what type of riding you will be doing or intend to do. Good luck brad! My 0.2 ;D
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Post by hotsauce on Dec 27, 2006 9:34:04 GMT 8
i think i fall in this catergory:D hehehehhe
Enduro (or "All-Mountain") Bikes are generally heavier than XC bikes, typically weighing between 30 and 35 pounds (14 to 16 kg). These bikes tend to feature greater suspension travel, often as much as 150 mm of front and rear travel, often adjustable on newer mid and top range bikes. These bikes are designed to be able to ascend and descend mountains, integrating the climbing abilities of XC bikes with the suspension technology of freeride bikes.
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Post by hotsauce on Dec 27, 2006 9:39:21 GMT 8
if your going to get a shimano bashguard for your bike you will need to get a new set of bolts. the shimano bolts for a triple chainring and the dual chainring with bash have different diameters. so wer can i find those bolts???
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Post by <eVs10nacious< on Dec 27, 2006 9:47:55 GMT 8
ride it muna til u drop like canon ball....... can u feel it?! the adrenelin rush? ? ;D see u in all happy trails EVS!
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Post by Poseur on Dec 27, 2006 20:04:23 GMT 8
enjoy the bike the way it is... eventually u will know the type of riding u wanna do, then get the parts accordingly. breaking parts really isn't that easy... financially and physically. when u get to that level u will know. u will need a bashguard if you're riding up fallen logs higher than your rings... if you're not then u have no use for it. bashguards were basically used to primarily protect the teeths. bashguards that are mounted instead of the large ring is there to increase the clearance of the bike when crossing fallen logs or getting up large rocks. i still kinda don't know what freeriding really is.... i define my riding as DH and technical. DH is when i'm just ripping it as fast as possible and technical is when I really can't go that fast... riding techy lines and the objective is to get from one tech lines to the next.
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Post by wadesingson on Dec 27, 2006 20:37:18 GMT 8
bolts - aebikes.com. BTW i have a an old race face bashguard 104 bcd 4 bolt black. used. 1800. 09175409396
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Post by Patrick on Dec 27, 2006 21:32:53 GMT 8
Because you asked I would say the part that needs upgrade is the rider. I agree with posuer, but I will use my own words, upgrade the rider first so that the rider will know. I made this as my guide for upgrades.
Mind you that most upgrade that I NEED to do is so far (based on this concept) from what I was wanting before.
Resist impulse buying as much as you can...make your upgrades worthy.
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Post by Alphabolt on Dec 28, 2006 0:06:33 GMT 8
mi dos sentimos: Hot S. pls answer these questions: a. which trails do you ride? b. which did you enjoy most? c. have you ever tried to go >50kph on a fireroad downhill? d. have you "attacked" drops >2 feet high e. have you ever experienced "faceplants"...riding fast then all of the sudden you find yourself face down on the mountain after a spill & you cant recall how you fell If your answers to questions c, d & e are : yes ....then you need a major upgrade [frame, fork, sturdier drivetrain i.e. XT Hone Saint or SRAM] BUT the most important ones are BODY ARMOR & full face helmet, dude If you answered no to any of the 3 c,d,e questions...Kudos to you coz you are doing it properly meaning you are asking more experienced riders [rocketman, patrick, wades, etc] BUT buy body armor first and experience doing fast attacks on fireroads with occassional humps and bumps...your guts will dictate if you are ready for more "aggressive riding" I dont mean to ruin your upgraditis but that s the way the DH cookie crumbles, brad Im forever a DH poser but Ive had my share of c, d & e Ride Fast Ride Hard BUT always Ride Safe..or try to at least
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Post by anshwa on Dec 28, 2006 0:39:24 GMT 8
Everyone's got the right response. Ride it & in time you'll find out w/c upgrades you actually need.
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Post by Poseur on Dec 28, 2006 11:06:33 GMT 8
where is "james wat" ba? i'm assumming DH run(s).
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