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Post by >rocketman> on Feb 21, 2006 16:25:29 GMT 8
Buddy, sa friday qualification run if you will join, finals sa saturday,
Meron ruling sa appropriate clothing during practice and race.
i guess We will not see you racing in your underwear like sa last DROP ZONE 2 hehehehe.
May TV coverage kasi (Solar sports) hehehehehe.
ATV ka? pa ride.
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Post by Alphabolt on Feb 24, 2006 0:55:11 GMT 8
Buddy dropped THAT FdK launch site ? ! ! ! WOW and OUCH
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Post by quiesledaddy on Feb 24, 2006 2:00:58 GMT 8
Badong, tell everyone why you really did the jump!!! ;D
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Post by Poseur on Feb 24, 2006 3:44:24 GMT 8
oooo. i wanna hear this.
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Post by basti on Feb 24, 2006 8:34:36 GMT 8
yeah! yeah! yeah! ;D
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Post by budbender on Feb 25, 2006 3:19:47 GMT 8
i woke up on the wrong side of the bed taht morning.... but honestly.........the first time i saw that drop it was provoking me na tlga eversince.....i just had to settle with my demons.......cuz if i didnt ....it would haunt me for the rest of my days........... Dh demands discipline .........and that is something i lost a long time ago.....lolx.... ;D Thats why i love freeriding........altho freeride dsnt demand too much discipline .......it has its own demons in their own form....... but bottom line bout that everything crazy that i do.......its bcuz it challenged me to an extent where logic and pain would meet...and its kinda fun once get the hang of it..... ;D
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Post by bongjumper on May 22, 2006 23:20:21 GMT 8
So many terms now in MTBiking which make as confused... here is my views for this two terms... The category of DH, all the trail is descending with jumps and drops...the DH bike is heavier the better, Frame is really huge tubing, single chain ring, big wheels for better tracktion, long travel fork, big rotor for brakes for better control... need to push the bikes going up the mountain because it's more than 36 lbs. For Freeride, the trail is combination of technical XC, climbs, more jumps and drops... the FR bikes is more lighter than DH, two chain ring on the crankset, fork need a lockout for climbing and XC so as not too hard to pedal, 2.3 size tire is enough or smaller on the rear, brake rotor can be same as DH rig... FR bike can also be used in DH trail...not so good though since more lighter... it is not so stable...
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Post by >rocketman> on May 23, 2006 0:06:14 GMT 8
It's started as simple "Trail Riding" then branched out to specifics, types of riding, terrain etc.
Today it's called A.M. all mountain,
bikes under marketing category "big hit trail bikes."
bikes with 6 to 7 inches rear wheel travel. minimum dual chain ring
I have downloaded the .pdf file June 06 MTBaction before the thread was lock hehehe saved P380 for that.
(where can we download .pdf mtbaction mag back issue? any one?)
the ultimate "the one bike"
the winning frame in their mtbaction poll was the STANCRUZ NOMAD,
(GIANT REIGN was last on the list with small % of votes i wonder why?)
the winning fork, FOX TALAS RC2, rear shox DHX air. etc...
they assembled the bike with the wiining components from the poll.
and that bike was raffled off, one lucky bas..rd!
and why not call it mountain shredding?
hehehe sound like your destroying the trail/mountain. hehehehe. that's for illegal loggers hehehehe.
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Post by anshwa on May 23, 2006 5:01:52 GMT 8
Before, there was: Mountainbiking
then: XC, Trail riding, Downhill
then: XC, Trail riding, Freeride, Dual Slalom, Downhill
then: XC, Trail riding, Freeride, Fourcross, Downhill
then: XC, Trail riding, Dirt jumping, Freeride, Fourcross, Downhill
then: XC, Aggressive XC, All Mountain XC, Agressive All Mountain, Light Freeride, Extreme Freeride, Dirt Jumping, Urban, Fourcross, Dual Slalom (in some courses), Super D, Air Downhill, Downhill (don't forget trials always weaving in & out all this time)
So I guess, the bottom line is that every post here is right. It's just that the market changes as demand changes, styles of riding evolve and everything is in constant change. Right now, Freeriding is different from Extreme Freeriding whereby the former has about 5-6 ft drops as a norm and the former going bigger. What we used to call Freeriding 10 years ago is simply Light Freeriding now. Downhill now has strictly race-orientation.
Still confused? I still am... I don't even know if I should claim my Heckler's an All-mountain, Light Freeride or simply Freeride build. And I'm pretty sure once I do get the courage to build my Transition Gran Mal, I wouldn't know if should call it an Extreme Freeride or a Downhill build when it's done. Ugh... the confusion!
BTW, that 30 to flat is ill!
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Post by bongjumper on May 23, 2006 19:27:25 GMT 8
So if you want to complete the line of application for the set-up of MTbikes... You need 7 to 8 MTbikes... ;D ;D ;D
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Post by >rocketman> on May 24, 2006 4:26:00 GMT 8
One hard tail and a full suspension is fine.
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Post by <eVs10nacious< on May 24, 2006 11:40:11 GMT 8
hey pipol,
c'mon lets hack the trail down fast this weekend.....anyone free?
game!
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Post by XP on May 24, 2006 12:35:30 GMT 8
i agree to that... one ht and one fs!
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Post by bongjumper on May 24, 2006 19:22:23 GMT 8
For only one FS bike, which set-up do you prefer...is it XC, AM, FR or DH ...
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Post by >rocketman> on May 25, 2006 0:14:38 GMT 8
I like the A.M set up is more versatile. a full susp with front derailleur, you can dh race it (single chain ring with guide), or dual or tripple chain ring for FR and trail riding.
santa cruz bullit is a fine example, with single or dual crown fork.
jong txt me if you will ride.
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Post by anshwa on May 25, 2006 2:14:45 GMT 8
So if you want to complete the line of application for the set-up of MTbikes... You need 7 to 8 MTbikes... ;D ;D ;D LOL! ;D
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Post by REDNEB on Jun 2, 2006 19:42:48 GMT 8
ummm i cant remember tho .... way back 2002 i was riding a 6" black trixxter with a DJ3 fork is that a freeride bike? cuz i ate like most of the Dh bikes in my class back then.......... i raced that bike in grotto eheheheh.........placed 11th or 12th i think..... not bad for a short travel bike.....
It dsnt matter what u ride ...its how u handle your ride is what really counts.
I actually ran that bike with no rear tires...weeeeeeeee....just fatboy rims... makin sparks on the rock garden it was a trip tho...... and them rims didnt even finch..wow ..^_^
Ima innovate Freeride prolly this 06..... now that im back in the saddle.....so all those with full medical n life insurance under their belt..... u myt wann join me in my quest to inoovate "Freeride" in this country............ nyahahaha
Any takers?
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Post by >rocketman> on Jun 3, 2006 0:25:51 GMT 8
going to do road gaps buddy?
what's your rig now?
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Post by REDNEB on Jun 3, 2006 0:43:38 GMT 8
Gaps are for sissies! (SISSY! hahahayz)......... there is no Gravity bending in gaps! puro speed at distance! Real men Drop from cliffs not fly from gay ramps n land on transitions! Duh!............ Gaps and jumps are for children and chicken poop f*gs! Those with taste for gravity and real roughneck riding Drop from the heavens and fall straight to hell and land with 2 wheels on fire! Real pilots land on bare earth! not on gay azz man-made ramps! ..................... Mindbomb- boxxer on XT kits n Double wide 24 rear and 26 fronts on nokian rubber! Theres a 43 footer in laguna and the landing is a flat rock garden! THats what real riding is all about........ i mean if ur gna play extreme with the bigboys and just do what everybody is doing and thats ...ahem....."mainstream/contemporary riding"...LOLERZ! Extreme is pushing the boundaries and limits of what everyone sees imposible, its pushing the human limits and mechanical capabilities of what god has given to you......... remember way back 96' they said it couldnt be done? (FK that was 10 yrs ago lol) and i broke it then everyone started goin big. then i went bigger in 04' and i dnt think anyone is that crazy yet in this country to do so (except Joseph Oncada).......... 5km rock gardens are child's play ask joey B. he knows where we train.......... that goes for consecutive 10-15ft ladder style drop sections............ The problem here in the Rp is bikers watch to many foreign movies and read too much stuff in them mags that they actually get awe struck at stuff that was actually doable since the 90s pa! Try pushing yourselves and go try it! explore........ fear is only present when you let it overcome your senses and think n ponder bout those things too much..... May it be freeriding or Dh riding or any other extreme type of riding....... you'll never know if its possible or impossible not unless you try it out for yourself..... pinoys idolize foreign riders too much and they forget about their own capabilities wherein they tend to forget that these alien riders are human too....... so im human what makes me different from them? A sport will never evolve or grow if the ppl in the sport itself dont push boundaries and limits..... the sport stays stagnant. The only clear thing here is.............. ppl hav to open their minds to new things n actually try them out...... not just read bout it in mags or watch them vids and drool over them for the rest of their frickin lives......... ;D I chose to be a Fighter and absorb the consequences of my battles , rather than be a spectator for life............. thats what prolly makes me different. But thats just me........................ DH & FR technology has gone a long way n the availability to us pinoys are now easy as clicking "order" on the net or buying from ur local bike shops. These technologically advance bikes have 2 places to go........... "Beyond the limits of the norm" or "another wasted display on ur living room wall". So which is it?................. any takers?
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Post by Poseur on Jun 3, 2006 15:05:00 GMT 8
flat 43 footer into a rock garden eh? i'll video tape that if you do it. ;D why bother going to laguna then. just find a 4 story building and do it from the rooftop.... the landing wouldn't have rocks but start there. i'll be so f-ing impress i will write every single biking magazine to get this out (w/ video and pics)... then the world will know what the pinoys can do. seriously! i've been asking/encouraging everyone here to post some action shots of their rides.... so that the filipinos can show (and i can see also) what kinds of riding u guys do. my guess is no bike frame will survive this drop... no wheel will come out in one piece w/o any dangling spokes. the rider? hard to say... hopefully walks away in one piece. what you're saying is true though about taking chances and grabbing life by the horns but not everyone can do what you do and not everyone will have the same limit.... or some may call suicidal tendency. i consider myself pretty chicken and when i have pushed myself to a new level, it's an incredible feeling. the first time i did some gaps i was screaming to the top of my lungs... i felt like those "idolized" pros and they were only 6 footers. it's a mind game. speaking of trannies. in the movie roam, matt did the huge one w/ a tranny (where he crashed)... that's pretty big. HUGE! i don't have the numbers though. let's see what our guys are doing. post some pix. redneb: i'm not dissing you ok, but before u were Redneb... u called yourself Bender. isn't that a form of idolization (is that a word?). unless that really is your name. pls don't think i'm trying to piss people off 'coz i'm not. i actually find your views very interesting... true but maybe a bit exagerated sometimes.... but mybe i'm wrong. one of these days, let's grab some beer.
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Post by >rocketman> on Jun 3, 2006 23:34:58 GMT 8
buddy, I taught you're already released from rehab?
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Post by REDNEB on Jun 4, 2006 3:30:36 GMT 8
i am nga jamal, i saw that parcel of earth 2 mos ago...... got it surveyed by my C.E. i got him to do the math...... its technically possible n insane daw.. ill prolly kick it in a month or two... documented this time for remembrance lang..lol
* ppl whove been riding gravity in this country fer round 16yrs know....no need to publish lol
the bike will hold but i doubt if the stock shockworks rear shock would hold? (these things hav a nasty reputation of exploding n ripping apart....lol... its a whole lot better than DNMs tho...DNM=DidNotMove) LOL
like i said a 4 story building is different...im a freerider not a skydiver......it just seems peculiar cuz im the only one left n present doing it... but try having 10 riders riding like me... it would seem normal n common not to mention irrititating....lol
i was at the global dirt jump this afternoon.... tintoy n crew were there i was with "mini-me"...hihihihihihihih.........the big jump is good for altitude n flight control handling and the recieving end has excellent rolldown.
I also checked the big drop sa likod.... wow big nga! lol lol lol...joke.... its good for practicing "holy diver" ...lol u take off at 40-50kph then catch 2 secs of air..wow......lol
iv been watchin the past DH comps here on vid...... and.......question?
american format na pala d2........NG XC! lol puro pedalling! me ahon pa! lol! DH pala yun! pero big n major improvement sa sport yung exposure.... thats a good thing ^_^
DOwnhill= going down not ROlling flat=XC....... LOL
relax pos..... i scream sumtimes too....i just dont let anyone hear it! LOL
and i checked out mark mariano's AM bike...cute tho.........
a Kona Coiler on fox36s n a whole lot of elbow&knee action would prolly chase up with them DH bikes........BEER?
umm i quit drinkin too...........liver is kiinda pruned, i dnt smoke that stuff anymore, im a good guy now!....... i just ride ma bike n spank ma monkey! LOL oops
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Post by evets on Jun 7, 2006 22:33:14 GMT 8
DH BASE ON THE MAGAZINE AND VIDEO FROM WHAT I"VE SEEN HAS VARIATIONS.PURE DH ARE THE ONCE THAT HAS TRIPLE CROWN FORK THAT ARE BIG IN SIZE CAPABLE TO DO BIG DROPS JUMPS HAS BIG WHEELS AND ARE VERY HEAVY BIKES DUE TO ITS MUSCLE FRAME FORK AND WHEELS. FREERIDE ARE MORE VERSATILE MUCH LIGHTER THAN DH.SMALLER SHOX AND USES ONLY A SINGLE CROWN FORK.CAN ALSO DO JUMPS AND DROPS BUT NOT HIGH AS DH DROPS NOT AS BIG AS DH.DH SET IS MUCH EXPENSIVE THAN FREERIDE SET UP.
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Post by Patrick on Jun 7, 2006 23:05:47 GMT 8
Gaps are for sissies! (SISSY! hahahayz)......... there is no Gravity bending in gaps! puro speed at distance! Real men Drop from cliffs not fly from gay ramps n land on transitions! When you say 'gravity bending' what does that mean?
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Post by anshwa on Jun 8, 2006 0:30:20 GMT 8
Very interesting post. No dissing here. Just coming from an objective angle. If I'm not mistaken, we've met once. I used to ride w/ James & Boyet. I think you're the first guy who did the 12-ft drop around the Fort area during it's construction back in the late '90's or 2000 ba? You broke your frame then. Everyone's on the cellphone going crazy about that. Mad, props, brad. If it wasn't you, sorry 'bout the useless story rambling. Anyway... If this is true, then everyone from Dave Watson to Kyle Strait are chicken. Pastrana & Metzger are chicken poop. Matt Hoffman is a poser. Heck, even Evil Knievel is gay! Just in case you've missed the bus, drops to flat are losing it's appeal as it relies too much on the equipment & really has no place in DH racing & doesn't help riders flow in trails such as the North Shore. So I'm assuming you've done this 43-footer. Mad props, man if you have. But to put things into perspective, this is a 35-ft drop that Josh Bender bailed from before crashing: Seriously, if this is like the stuff you're hitting, man you have to document it & send it to bike manufacturers - you WILL be sponsored, brad. No argument. Good mindset. Not everyone progress at the same pace. While you might progress quick, some don't. That's just the way it is. Again good mindset. You're still using Bender's name on your profile so that is still idolizing, man - just to let you know. But you're right, we shouldn't look at the Pro's stuff as impossible. We should always believe we could do it. Good for you you're able to be a Fighter. But now you're forgetting too many factors surrounding a lot of riders. First, not everyone might be hungover the pushing-to-their-limits-relative-to-another-rider-thing. Second, there's the issue of money. Not everyone has the capacity to constantly replace broken bike parts - much less repair broken bones. A lot of people don't have the financial stability to afford to be out of work due to surgery after a 20-ft drop gone a mess. Again, just to make it clear. This is not flaming or dissing. This is very objective. You have a very competitive mindset & that's great. There are just skewed views in your post, in my opinion. Peace.
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Post by Great Teacher Ulysses on Jun 9, 2006 3:08:33 GMT 8
uuhhh.....present! i do!
going on a sport or hobby means that you already know that your going to spend much. brokenbones? my log-in name is brokenuly. it's a consequence. not riding properly is the result of that. that's why you need to wear gears before doing something BIG. financial stability? nag-DH k? you afford to buy a bike and/or go DH? and saying you don't have financial stability? c'mon! are you joking? i got an ugly bike going DH, but i got through it. if there's a will, there's a way. besides, you love the sport.
* You don't want to get hurt? try road bike. Financial stability? mayaman ka! (you're rich!)
* You don't want to get hurt? Practice hard! understand the science (You know what i mean, literally!).
* you don't want to get hurt? Pray!
* You don't want to spend much (financial stability)? go to the Buy and Sell section of PinoyMTBiker. buy second hand parts from posers!
*Goodluck!
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Post by CARLOfornicator(censored) on Jun 9, 2006 8:41:08 GMT 8
@redned- we enjoy different things,if you wanna be a freerider then do so,othr people enjoy hitting gaps because landing them pecfectly gives you lots of flow unlike doing drops,well if you wanna brag about the things youve done then do so,but dont critisize other peoples way of riding...
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Post by <eVs10nacious< on Jun 9, 2006 9:08:21 GMT 8
hey budz, your the man!......
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Post by >rocketman> on Jun 9, 2006 9:45:35 GMT 8
yes, anshwa it was buddy, who did that 12 foot drop at the fort, and destroyed the frame.
buddy is changed now since then.....................he changed his dosage!heheheheheheheh
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Post by Patrick on Jun 9, 2006 11:25:27 GMT 8
Anshwa is right, Buddy should get his stuff on video. It could promote freeriding in the country, this is one of the stuff that the scene here lacks. I think someone has to start this to promote the sport in this country. (You the man?) Maybe you should change your perception on what is achievement in freeriding is (ie number of your DVDs made versus counting your broken bones hehe).
About drops anybody with the nuts can do it in the first time riding MTBs, BTW im not saying that in freeriding theres no skills. Tons of nuts is good too but it cant be compared with sissy gaps where there is an amount of skill required. You probably have both so good for you.
Droping even 100ft doesnt "defy" physics by gravity bending, it is actually a consequence of physics (as everything are), you should see some trials videos where the bikes goes on a downward curve (lower than where you started) then up again (higher than where you started) on thin air (the curve the bikes travel) on a 3 meter gap from static. (im not comparing, just a sample).
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