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Post by mkeith10 on May 11, 2007 9:31:01 GMT 8
DON'T EAT TOO MUCH RICE The human body was never meant to consume rice! You see, our genes have hardly changed in more than 30,000 years. However, our food choices and lifestyle have changed dramatically. The caveman would hardly recognize our food or way of life. Caveman food was never cooked as fire was not yet tamed. Thus, he ate only those foods that he can eat without treatment with or by fire. He ate fruits, vegetables, fish (sushi anyone?), eggs, nuts and meat. Yes, even meat. You can even eat meat raw if you were starving in the forest. You have the necessary enzymes to digest meat. However, rice - like wheat and corn - cannot be eaten raw. It must be cooked. Even if you were starving in the desert, you cannot eat rice in the raw form. This is because we do not have the system of enzymes to break rice down. We were never meant to eat rice. To make matters worse, we not only eat rice, but also make it the bulk of our food. In some parts of Asia , rice forms up to 85% of the plate. Even if we take rice, let's keep it to a minimum. Remember, it is only for our tongue... not our body. Actually, rice and other grains like wheat and corn are actually worse than sugar. There are many reasons: Rice becomes sugar - lots of it! T! his is a fact that no nutritionist can deny: rice is chemically no different form sugar. One bowl of cooked rice is the caloric equivalent of 10 teaspoons of sugar. This does not matter whether the rice is white, brown or herbal rice. Brown rice is richer in fibre, some B vitamins and minerals... but it is still the caloric equal of 10 teaspoons of sugar. To get the same 10 teaspoons of sugar, we need to consume lots of kangkong... 10 bowls of it. Rice is digested to become sugar. Rice can be digested only when it is thoroughly cooked. However, when thoroughly cooked, it becomes sugar and! spikes circulating blood sugar within half an hour... almost as quickly as it would if we took a sugar candy. Rice is very low in the "rainbow of anti-oxidants". This complete anti-oxidant rainbow is necessary for the effective and safe utilisation of sugar. Fruits come with a sugar called fructose. However, they are not empty calories as the fruit is packed with a whole host of other nutrients that help its proper assimilation and digestion. Rice has no fiber. The fiber of the kangkong fills us up long before our blood sugar spikes. This is because the fiber bulks and fills up our stomach. Since white rice has no fiber, we end up eating lots of "calorie dense" food before we get filled up. Brown rice has more fibre but still contains the same amount of sugar. Rice is tasteless. Sugar is sweet. There is only so much that we can eat at one sitting. How many teaspoons of sugar can we eat before we feel like throwing up? Could you imagine eating 10 teaspoons of sugar in one seating? Rice is always the main part of the meal. While sugar may fill our dessert or sweeten our coffee, it will never be the main part of any meal. We could eat maybe two to three teaspoons of sugar at one meal. However, we could easily eat the equal value of two to three bowls (20 - 30 teaspoons) of sugar in one meal. I am always amused when I see someone eat sometimes five bowls of rice (equals 50 teaspoons of sugar) and then asks fo tea or coffee without sugar! There is no real "built in" mechanism for us to prevent overeating of rice. How much kangkong can we eat? How much fried chicken? How much steamed fish? Think about that! In one seating, we cannot take lots of chicken, fish or cucumber, but we can take lots of rice. Eating rice causes us to eat more salt. As rice is tasteless, we tend to consume more salt... another villain when it comes to high blood pressure control. We tend to take more curry that has salt to help flavor the rice. We also tend to consume more ketchup and soy sauce which are also rich in salt. Eating rice causes us to drink less water. The more rice we eat, the less water we will drink as there is no mechanism to prevent the overeating of rice. Rice, wheat and corn come hidden in our daily food. As rice is tasteless, it tends to end up in other foods that serve as rice substitutes. .. like rice flour, noodles and bread. We tend to eat the hidden forms which still get digested into sugar. Rice, even when cooked, is difficult to digest. Can't eat raw rice? Try eating rice half cooked. Contrary to popular belief, rice is very difficult to digest. It is "heavy stuff". If you have problems with digestion, try skipping rice for a few days. You will be amazed at how the problem will just go away. Rice prevents the absorption of several vitamins and minerals. Rice when taken in bulk will reduce the absorption of vital nutrients like zinc, iron and the B vitamins. Are you a rice addict? Going riceless may not be easy, but we can still go riceless. Eating less rice could be a lot easier than we think. Here are some strategies that we can pursue in our quest to eat less rice: 1. Eat less rice - Cut your rice by half. Barry Sears, author of the Zone Diet, advises "eating rice like spice". Instead, increase your fruits & vegetables intake. 2. Take more lean meats and fish. 3. You can even take more eggs and nuts. Have "riceless" meals. Take no rice or wheat at say, breakfast. Go for eggs instead. 4. Go on "riceless" days - Go "western" once a week. Take no rice and breads for one day every week! That can't be too difficult. Appreciate the richness of your food. Go for taste, colors and smells. Make eating a culinary delight. Enjoy your food in the original flavors. 5. Avoid the salt shaker or ketchup. You will automatically eat less rice. 6. Eat your fruit dessert before (Yes! No printing error) your meals . The fiber-rich fruits will "bulk up" in your stomach! . Thus, you will eat less rice and more fruits. ************ ********* ********* ********* ********* ********* ********* ********* ****** OUR WATER AFTER EACH MEAL For those who like to drink cold water, this article is applicable to you. It says it is nice to have a cup of cold drink after a meal. However, the cold water will solidify the oily stuff that you have just consumed. It will slow down the digestion. Once this "sludge" reacts with the acid, it will break down and be absorbed by the intestine faster than the solid food. It will line the intestine! Very soon, this will turn into fats and lead to cancer. It is best to drink hot soup or warm water after a meal.
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Post by gadgets88 on May 12, 2007 10:27:42 GMT 8
Drink hot tea during and after meals. A couple of billions of Asians can't be wrong. However, there is a right way and a wrong way to prepare tea. Drop a few leaves on hot boiling water = correct! Refill with boiling water = correct! Putting leaves in water, then boiling it = wrong! Eating a bowl of rice and 3 to 5 viands (ulam) instead of 1 ulam and 3 to 5 cups of rice. A couple of billions of Asians can't be wrong. I always believed that lots of problems in our country can be easily solved by observing our Asian neighbors. Why our government officials are at a loss for viable, long-term, self-sustaining solutions is beyond my comprehension. On second thought, alam ko na (I realized)... hidden agenda kasi pala. Oh well. ![::)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/eyesroll.png) Did you know that the Philippines, basically an agriculture-based producer as its basis of feeding the population, is dependent on rice import? We also have a rice-feeding program in line with the education program without getting any results on the long term, why? India, on the other hand, does not spend billions on education. No pork barrel for that. No nothing for schools. The government spends its budget on printing educational materials instead. Books are cheap. That means, you don't spend money to send kids to school. You don't spend money to feed students who don't want to study. Instead, you provide books that are affordable. Those who wants to study will find a way to get their hand on the books and earn an education. That means budget well spent because you don't force kids to go to school. You don't force parents to force kids to go to school so they can bring home a kilo of rice. Oh well.. I'm ranting. and I'm hungry. That's my 2 cents contribution for the day! Tata!
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Post by allegra on May 12, 2007 13:38:38 GMT 8
Great info Havent had rice or bread since january I really dont miss the 5 cups I used to eat per meal hehe
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Post by imusbiker on May 12, 2007 14:48:26 GMT 8
Tell this to a laborer and you might get whacked. ;D Where is this article from?
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Post by kulot_salot on May 12, 2007 15:25:52 GMT 8
The human body was never meant to consume rice! sir are you not filipino or in general - asian? ![::)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/eyesroll.png) article may be from a western food nazi.... hope he die... ![8-)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/cool.png) Very soon, this will turn into fats and lead to cancer. talaga?! anong ratio of westerners compared with orientals stricken with cancer? ![::)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/eyesroll.png)
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Post by bikedaddy on May 12, 2007 16:03:39 GMT 8
1. The Author hates rice. 2. He's a cereal killer. 3. He lacks the teasthingys of sugar necessary for proper neuronal function. 4. A question....was the author abused by a bowl of rice when he was a kid? ![:-[](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/embarrassed.png)
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Post by sabretooth on May 12, 2007 16:51:04 GMT 8
I've just talked with a caveman and he completely disagrees.
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Post by allegra on May 12, 2007 20:30:32 GMT 8
Tell this to a laborer and you might get whacked. ;D Where is this article from? I'm not the author but I have ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) They claim they wouldnt last sa trabaho w/out rice W/c is not entirely true Have you noticed laborers nowadays are a bunch of fat a$$e$ ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) I've always wondered why even pure pinoy athletes in the US are bigger and taller
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Post by mountguitars on May 12, 2007 21:20:51 GMT 8
wow, very informative. thanks for posting. so rice cannot be substituted by bread, is that correct?
i was thinking of eating bread instead or rice.
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Post by allegra on May 12, 2007 21:36:43 GMT 8
wow, very informative. thanks for posting. so rice cannot be substituted by bread, is that correct? i was thinking of eating bread instead or rice. Hi Jon ,i'm not the TS but if your gonna choose between rice and bread , better go w/ rice But generally , I tell my customers to eliminate both muna when they are trying to lose weight Get your carbs from somewhere else
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Post by qt_kat on May 12, 2007 22:53:14 GMT 8
Rice is perfect for food aid because:
* Rich in complex carbohydrates* * Contains all eight essential amino acids* * Cholesterol and sodium-free * * Very available * Competitively priced * Hypoallergenic* * Therapeutic for some digestive disorders * Easy to handle/transport * Table ready to cook * Culturally acceptable * Meets USG "processed" food requirement** * Meets the USG "bagged in the US" requirement** * Very important points for improving the nutritional levels of those who have compromised immune systems. **Congressional mandate for USAID Title II programs. Rice has many positive characteristics making it desirable for use in food aid, both as a grain and as an ingredient in blended foods. Rice is eaten around the world and is well accepted. In addition to its protein quality, that is similar in quality to peanut and lentil protein, it is hypoallergenic, easy to digest and restorative. Rice is high in carbohydrate, making it easy to include in diets as part of the recommended complex carbohydrate component. Rice water is valued as a traditional medicine for the treatment of diarrhea. Rice is bland in taste, mixing well with other foods and making it a versatile ingredient in food product development. It is less likely to support aflatoxin-producing fungi than corn and peanuts and is easy to store and distribute. The digestibility of rice is about 88% which contributes to its good protein quality. Digestibility is important because it infers bioavailability of nutrients, a problem in developing countries. Using Protein Digestibility Corrected Amino Acid Scoring, a method for evaluating protein quality, rice is 0.55 while corn is 0.42 and wheat is 0.40. This method of evaluating protein quality is useful to food aid professionals in planning diets with adequate protein since less protein is needed in diets when higher quality protein is included and using a scale of 0.0 to 1.0 makes it easy to see how protein foods can be most effectively utilized. Health Benefits of Rice Combinations for At Risk Populations Benefits of rice blended foods It is not necessary to consume rice in combination with other foods in order to obtain its benefits. However, it may be desirable to combine rice with other foods as a way to enhance the diets of groups at risk, encourage variety in diets, and as a way to entice at risk populations to consume fortified foods. Since many at risk populations may not have good appetites, offering a familiar food or a blended food with a known ingredient may be desirable. Taken from this site. Read on guys!
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Post by Alphabolt on May 12, 2007 23:06:40 GMT 8
Im not a biochemist ...but my bet s with Kate 's research plus I get to eat rice ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) Riceless is unthinkable . I tried atkin's for 4 weeks and it messed up my system ... I felt like I was overheating and I became very moody I just do my pushups and some weights and sometimes bike and always eat any meal I want albeit moderately ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png)
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Post by allegra on May 12, 2007 23:28:01 GMT 8
hehe I wouldnt argue that rice is not great for feeding the starving masses it's cheap, it's evrywhere and it's easily digested
But for an athlete who needs performance or a fat slob like myself , it's not good
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Post by allegra on May 12, 2007 23:35:05 GMT 8
Im not a biochemist ...but my bet s with Kate 's research plus I get to eat rice ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) Riceless is unthinkable . I tried atkin's for 4 weeks and it messed up my system ... I felt like I was overheating and I became very moody I just do my pushups and some weights and sometimes bike and always eat any meal I want albeit moderately ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) Fafa arnel, How did you do atkins? By the book ba? In my experience , it worked at burning fat kaso pati muscle ko lumiit hehe I was in it for a year or two only Dont know if it made me moody , nuon pa kasi ako moody ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png)
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Post by kukai on May 13, 2007 0:07:14 GMT 8
moderation is the key to anything. taking anything in excess wouldn't work for anyone. once upon a time i lost tremendous amount weight by skipping rice ~ i'm thinking of doing the same routine... ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png)
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Post by mountguitars on May 13, 2007 10:02:30 GMT 8
wow, very informative. thanks for posting. so rice cannot be substituted by bread, is that correct? i was thinking of eating bread instead or rice. Hi Jon ,i'm not the TS but if your gonna choose between rice and bread , better go w/ rice But generally , I tell my customers to eliminate both muna when they are trying to lose weight Get your carbs from somewhere else thanks for the reply lenard. i eat a lot of bread kasi coz i'd like to limit my rice intake. it seems im taking more evil pala when i eat bread. i'll definitely limit bread as well. my dad eats a lot of bread too. what do i tell him? so what's in bread that makes it worse than eating rice? what's a good substitute for rice? something you could eat and make you forget about eating rice? ;D
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Post by allegra on May 13, 2007 18:28:33 GMT 8
Hi Jon ,i'm not the TS but if your gonna choose between rice and bread , better go w/ rice But generally , I tell my customers to eliminate both muna when they are trying to lose weight Get your carbs from somewhere else thanks for the reply lenard. i eat a lot of bread kasi coz i'd like to limit my rice intake. it seems im taking more evil pala when i eat bread. i'll definitely limit bread as well. my dad eats a lot of bread too. what do i tell him? so what's in bread that makes it worse than eating rice? what's a good substitute for rice? something you could eat and make you forget about eating rice? ;D I'm not advocating carb less diets Just Avoid flour, sugar anything processed You can get your carbs from Green leafy Veggies and fruits, and lots of it It takes awhile to get used to though ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png)
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Post by mountguitars on May 13, 2007 19:08:49 GMT 8
thanks for the reply lenard. i eat a lot of bread kasi coz i'd like to limit my rice intake. it seems im taking more evil pala when i eat bread. i'll definitely limit bread as well. my dad eats a lot of bread too. what do i tell him? so what's in bread that makes it worse than eating rice? what's a good substitute for rice? something you could eat and make you forget about eating rice? ;D I'm not advocating carb less diets Just Avoid flour, sugar anything processed You can get your carbs from Green leafy Veggies and fruits, and lots of it It takes awhile to get used to though ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) i get it. so in short, bread has some ingredients that are processed that's why we need to avoid it at some point. i tried eating vegetables and fruits alone but it wasnt able to fill my hunger, hehehe. ;D. at some point, i had to eat bread. and the thing i find with bread, fruits and vegetables is that i easily get hungry with those so i get to eat more often, ;D. i'll try something different i guess. thanks. ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png)
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Post by berns on May 13, 2007 21:05:41 GMT 8
Rice is good it is a good source of energy. Much of what was said there were wrong contrary to what I learned in biochem and nutrition.
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Post by allegra on May 13, 2007 21:57:25 GMT 8
I'm not advocating carb less diets Just Avoid flour, sugar anything processed You can get your carbs from Green leafy Veggies and fruits, and lots of it It takes awhile to get used to though ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) i get it. so in short, bread has some ingredients that are processed that's why we need to avoid it at some point. i tried eating vegetables and fruits alone but it wasnt able to fill my hunger, hehehe. ;D. at some point, i had to eat bread. and the thing i find with bread, fruits and vegetables is that i easily get hungry with those so i get to eat more often, ;D. i'll try something different i guess. thanks. ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png) You ha , I'll be giving too much info hehe I'm not a vegetarian either, I;m a carnivore ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) You'll be less hungry if you eat the veggies and fruits along w/ lean meat or fish But if you still get hungry then eat more I eat 5 x a day ( 2 herbalife and 2 big meals and 1 big snack ) didnt gain an inch of fat kahit ang tamad ko mag train Now try eating the same amount of rice and bread 5x a day and see what happens ( Dont ! ![:))](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/cheesy.png) Now if I could just stay away from alcohol , I'd be less than 10% body fat now. But I dont so I wont ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png)
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Post by mountguitars on May 13, 2007 23:25:09 GMT 8
herbalife? what's that?
if i try your suggestion, the problem i guess is how to source the food. hopefully the local carinderia can provide, hehehe. ;D
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Post by edededed on May 13, 2007 23:55:51 GMT 8
rice is bad.
but if you eat it with tuyo, it's fine
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Post by edp773 on May 14, 2007 0:21:11 GMT 8
Any bread that the first two ingredients says enriched flour is not near as good for you as whole grain. Simple carbohydrates turns to sugar before it is stored by your body. Some sugar and simple carbs are good, but not in excess.
Some athletes load up with simple carbs before a race. It provides quick energy that does not last long. My favorite statement at a MTB race was, "Lets get this race started. My carbs are wearing off!" ;D
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Post by coolangot ☺ on May 14, 2007 0:24:46 GMT 8
Too much rice (as in white/polished rice) is bad.
But unpolished rice (brown or red rice) contains very high Vitamin B Complex and lots of minerals, plus it is very high in fiber.
Polished rice has lost most of its nutrients already.
The bran (darak) is used as the raw material for Tiki-tiki ( para kay beybi ) because of its high vitamin B content.
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Post by plankton_dash on May 14, 2007 7:54:11 GMT 8
since we have doctors here, then i would have to go with dra. qt_kat (and most of you!) would have to say...RICE RULES!!! ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) i also agree with gadgets88...drinking tea is great! i substituted coffee with green tea & it's really effective, physically and mentally! ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/grin.png)
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Post by pjax on May 14, 2007 9:24:38 GMT 8
waitaminute... so what is a good carbs alternative? i'm not trying to lose weight. heck i'm actually trying to gain weight. did i read that right, that bread is bad as well?
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Post by allegra on May 14, 2007 9:51:07 GMT 8
herbalife? what's that? if i try your suggestion, the problem i guess is how to source the food. hopefully the local carinderia can provide, hehehe. ;D Yeah , thats the real problem talaga You rarely find veggies sa carinderias and restos na dehins chopsuey na 3 days old thats the problem w/ the modern pinoy diet Eating a LOT of rice and excluding veggies from the diet It doesnt help na ang mahal din ng gulay Herbalife is a high nutrition meal replacement shake
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Post by allegra on May 14, 2007 13:50:43 GMT 8
Too much rice (as in white/polished rice) is bad. But unpolished rice (brown or red rice) contains very high Vitamin B Complex and lots of minerals, plus it is very high in fiber. Polished rice has lost most of its nutrients already. The bran (darak) is used as the raw material for Tiki-tiki ( para kay beybi ) because of its high vitamin B content. Fafa cool has got it right White rice had been raped of all the goodness ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) If you fill yuor stomach w/ it like the typical "laborer's" diet then your feeding yur engine w/ low octane fuel Fresh Green leafy veggies OTOH , are rich in fiber and packed w/ nutrients I love rice myself , sino ba dehins
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Post by nikkocholo on May 15, 2007 6:19:04 GMT 8
eat everything you want...A little of everything will do... If you wanna bulk with muscles like footballers or body builders eat a lot of rice and meat and work out... if you wanna get skinny fiber is your key...fish, green and leafy. For me, balance is the key... Love rice myself
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Post by allegra on May 15, 2007 10:20:40 GMT 8
eat everything you want...A little of everything will do... If you wanna bulk with muscles like footballers or body builders eat a lot of rice and meat and work out... if you wanna get skinny fiber is your key...fish, green and leafy. For me, balance is the key... Love rice myself I always promise myself I'd stop posting , I just cant help it ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) If you want to be a bodybuilder w/ a big fat belly , eat lots of rice and meat. You'll save a lot of money sa hydroxycut if you ditch the rice This will be my last post on this thread I promise haha
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