hingal aso
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Post by hingal aso on Feb 6, 2006 15:25:34 GMT 8
I have been curious about this for a long time.
WHY? WHAT? IS IT BAD? and HOW TO STOP/PREVENT?
"cracking" joints.
You know.... those sounds your joints make.... when you stand up, or when you stretch.
Yes it feels good when it is done to you especially during a massage (like pulling your fingers or strechting your back).... but htis are voluntary "cracks".
What I am concerned is the involuntary ones.... I have noticed that it happens more often and to more joints than before.... I don't know if it is age or because of biking. Now even if I just rotate my ankles... those joints "crack".
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Post by anthrax76 on Feb 7, 2006 10:50:22 GMT 8
i'm not a medic, this is just how much i know through a PT friend of mine Why? it's the release of nitrogen from the joint Is it bad? sort of, according to my friend, when the nitrogen is release, we hear the cracking sound. it's similar when you do hydrolysis, where the Hydrogen and Oxygen is separated in water. Hydrogen makes a popping sound. everytime this happens, the bones have some sort of microfracture. it repairs itself but....it leaves a bigger gap. which explains why the more you crack your joints over time, the sound becomes louder. repairing the bones is like repairing a cement wall. it doesn't regenerate like skin, but builds up on what is initially there. which explains why people who crack their fingers end up with bigger finger joints. that's the bad part but for the good part.........is there a doctor in the house?
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Post by Julio on Feb 7, 2006 11:39:32 GMT 8
Crepitus is a clinical symptom in medicine that is characterized by a peculiar crackling, crinkly, or grating feeling or sound under the skin, around the lungs, or in the joints. Crepitus in soft tissues is often due to gas, most often air, that has penetrated and infiltrated an area where it should not normally be (for example, in the soft tissues beneath the skin).
Crepitus in a joint can indicate cartilage wear in the joint space. The term "crepitus" is taken directly from the Latin "crepitus" meaning "a crackling sound or rattle." Typically crepitus is a grinding noise coupled with a sensation in the affected joint. Crepitus can occur with or without pain.
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Post by lucban on Feb 13, 2006 8:01:21 GMT 8
brad. this is a sign aging joints.So ride as tolerated.
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Post by konablack on Feb 17, 2006 12:25:33 GMT 8
just an opinion of mine, don't crack your joints, cause if you do you'll be tempted to crack the other joints too...
Especially the back area, where you twist your hips and it makes a cracking sound on the spinal column, yikes...
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Post by coolangot ☺ on Feb 17, 2006 13:43:57 GMT 8
I have cracking (right) knee which has been for almost 20 years. I don't feel pain naman, but everytime I bend my legs I hear this cracking sound( yes everytime). When I was young I often played with the cracking and would count up to 30 or more consecutive cracks.
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Post by coolangot ☺ on Feb 17, 2006 13:53:34 GMT 8
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Post by polpan on Mar 25, 2006 15:32:04 GMT 8
acceptable if you have a cracked ass....
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Post by pjax on May 26, 2006 17:43:05 GMT 8
so is it bad to voluntarily crack your joints? finger joints? i do it all the time
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Post by mgtimothy on May 29, 2006 10:01:16 GMT 8
i'm not a medic, this is just how much i know through a PT friend of mine Why? it's the release of nitrogen from the joint Is it bad? sort of, according to my friend, when the nitrogen is release, we hear the cracking sound. it's similar when you do hydrolysis, where the Hydrogen and Oxygen is separated in water. Hydrogen makes a popping sound. everytime this happens, the bones have some sort of microfracture. it repairs itself but....it leaves a bigger gap. which explains why the more you crack your joints over time, the sound becomes louder. repairing the bones is like repairing a cement wall. it doesn't regenerate like skin, but builds up on what is initially there. which explains why people who crack their fingers end up with bigger finger joints.that's the bad part but for the good part.........is there a doctor in the house? Does this statement have scientific grounds? Kasi i always hear that but so far haven't read any official study on that. Methinks it's old wives tale. Have this ongoing experiment with my knuckles. Ever since I was in grade school (i'm a college grad now, btw), I cracked only my LEFT knucles. Now, still doing so. Comparing with my right knuckles, no difference. At all. And that's a decade of cracking!
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Post by ronaldarca on May 29, 2006 17:39:09 GMT 8
calling sir greywall2004, our official PT
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Post by greywall on May 30, 2006 14:47:10 GMT 8
flatus = gas or air in the GI tract which may be expelled through the anus (kabag) crepitus = a noisy discharge of gas from the intestine (the art of pag-utot)
crepitations = crackling. also syn. with crepitus ; refers to a sound created by structures slipping over one another(tendons to bones), loose bodies or arthritic changes in the joint, abnormal movement of structures of the body or tear in a structure of our body
in my knowledge, crepitations may occur with or without pain, but it may suggest a non-symptomatic pathology in its early stages, like in the case of arthritis, crepitations are early signs of damage in the joint wherein you may hear a sound whenever a joint is moved from a sustained position(flexing the knee after long standing). Although, I haven’t read any journal or medical publishing that directly correlates crepitus with arthritis, frequent cracking of joints can somehow induce microdamages to the involve structures, thus, probably leading to weakening of the supporting structures of the joint (e.g. frequent cracking of fingers or spine). Which might impose danger to us, bikers, if we often crash.
For some guys who frequently crack joints, I suggest to somehow avoid it, especially if the sound gets louder as time passes, coz it may seem harmless today, but as we age, it could probably add some more damage to the joints, other than the normal degeneration of our body structures due to wear and tear. Remember: an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure (tama ba ako?) Hope this helps….
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Post by Dragunov on May 30, 2006 17:24:25 GMT 8
flatus = gas or air in the GI tract which may be expelled through the anus (kabag) crepitus = a noisy discharge of gas from the intestine (the art of pag-utot) crepitations = crackling. also syn. with crepitus ; refers to a sound created by structures slipping over one another(tendons to bones), loose bodies or arthritic changes in the joint, abnormal movement of structures of the body or tear in a structure of our body in my knowledge, crepitations may occur with or without pain, but it may suggest a non-symptomatic pathology in its early stages, like in the case of arthritis, crepitations are early signs of damage in the joint wherein you may hear a sound whenever a joint is moved from a sustained position(flexing the knee after long standing). Although, I haven’t read any journal or medical publishing that directly correlates crepitus with arthritis, frequent cracking of joints can somehow induce microdamages to the involve structures, thus, probably leading to weakening of the supporting structures of the joint (e.g. frequent cracking of fingers or spine). Which might impose danger to us, bikers, if we often crash. For some guys who frequently crack joints, I suggest to somehow avoid it, especially if the sound gets louder as time passes, coz it may seem harmless today, but as we age, it could probably add some more damage to the joints, other than the normal degeneration of our body structures due to wear and tear. Remember: an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure (tama ba ako?) Hope this helps…. flatus! ummm, smells good hehe, how about the cracking sound we hear when we fart? is it dangerous? will it ignite when your having yosi ;Dhehe
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Post by Ben Dover on May 30, 2006 17:32:16 GMT 8
hey why don't you try it mr. bond? just make sure its gonna be big...you could be the first pinoy in space hehehe!...and you dont have to worry about dale.
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Post by greywall on May 30, 2006 21:25:11 GMT 8
mr.bond- better try it!!! like the one in the movie JACk by robin williams!!!!
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Post by pjax on May 31, 2006 5:38:03 GMT 8
must.. not.. crack.. knuckles!!
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Post by IGOP on Aug 17, 2006 1:27:22 GMT 8
must.. not.. crack.. knuckles!! hehehe im also trying this also.. d@mn too hard to resist
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Post by gadgets88 on Aug 17, 2006 11:58:28 GMT 8
I have cracking (right) knee which has been for almost 20 years. I don't feel pain naman, but everytime I bend my legs I hear this cracking sound( yes everytime). When I was young I often played with the cracking and would count up to 30 or more consecutive cracks. I recently developed a cracking knee. The knee got slightly twisted, became swollen, healed and the cracking started. Now it happens all the time. Whenever I bend it (sitting or sleeping) and I stretch my leg, the cracking occurs. No pain accompanied the cracking sound. The knee is weak and it is the very reason I started biking. I couldn't run much anymore... How can this be cured? Help!
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Post by Alphabolt on Oct 15, 2006 0:14:38 GMT 8
I ve got crepitus on my left foot near the achilles heel
I ll try using the gel sole inserts on all my shoes...hope it helps
Im also tryin the Rakuwa /Phitten japanese breakthrough "aqua titanium" wraps and necklaces (neck and back)
I ll keep you posted if they work. Bought them in Singapore. Popular athletes in golf tennis etc use it and endorse it
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Post by rorschach on Oct 15, 2006 3:27:33 GMT 8
must.. not.. crack.. knuckles!! hehehe im also trying this also.. d@mn too hard to resist I'm a glutton for cracking knuckles, I can crack mine forever...as in repeteadly with that cracking sound hehe don't know how I do it. I crack 2-3 toes on both my feet repeatedly.
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Post by coolangot ☺ on Jan 14, 2007 22:19:29 GMT 8
hehehe im also trying this also.. d@mn too hard to resist I'm a glutton for cracking knuckles, I can crack mine forever...as in repeteadly with that cracking sound hehe don't know how I do it. I crack 2-3 toes on both my feet repeatedly. amazing what the human body can do... provide entertainment.. hehehehe
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Post by arcireyes on Jan 15, 2007 17:45:42 GMT 8
@greywall : was that knee problem you had during yesterday's ride a crepitus?
on another note, i believe based on experience (actually happening to me) that cracking joint, in my case my knees, is a symptom of damage, again in my case an osteoarthiritic right knee.
@gadgets : yes, biking (or swimming) is the best alternative to running when you have a damaged knee.
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Post by allegra on Jan 15, 2007 20:45:44 GMT 8
@greywall : was that knee problem you had during yesterday's ride a crepitus? on another note, i believe based on experience (actually happening to me) that cracking joint, in my case my knees, is a symptom of damage, again in my case an osteoarthiritic right knee. @gadgets : yes, biking (or swimming) is the best alternative to running when you have a damaged knee. Swimming is great exercise.......if you know how to swim Yung swimming continous for at least 5min intervals for 30 to 60min Kasi kung puro gutterfly lang , I dont think you'll get a workout You 'll spend most of yur time resting waiting to catch your breath
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Post by gadgets88 on Jan 17, 2007 14:50:15 GMT 8
Swimming is great exercise.......if you know how to swim Yung swimming continous for at least 5min intervals for 30 to 60min Kasi kung puro gutterfly lang , I dont think you'll get a workout You 'll spend most of yur time resting waiting to catch your breath With this bad knee (thanks to my badminton addiction), looks like I won't be able to try your sport called triathlon. Sayang (wastage), I was a religious swimmer when I was younger, as in every other day for an hour or so. How does one swim for an hour alone without getting bored? My secret? By memorizing the multiplication and scientific formulas during lapping. Ok... it's still boring, but I'm too busy thinking something like: 11*11=121. 12*12=144... Pi = 3.14159265358979323846... Area of a circle is Pi r squared... So swimming not only exercised the body, but also the mind...
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Post by alien_scream on Jan 17, 2007 17:11:52 GMT 8
cracking joints? ? you may be just eating chicharon!!!! hehehehehe!!!
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Post by allegra on Jan 17, 2007 20:52:31 GMT 8
Swimming is great exercise.......if you know how to swim Yung swimming continous for at least 5min intervals for 30 to 60min Kasi kung puro gutterfly lang , I dont think you'll get a workout You 'll spend most of yur time resting waiting to catch your breath With this bad knee (thanks to my badminton addiction), looks like I won't be able to try your sport called triathlon. Sayang (wastage), I was a religious swimmer when I was younger, as in every other day for an hour or so. How does one swim for an hour alone without getting bored? My secret? By memorizing the multiplication and scientific formulas during lapping. Ok... it's still boring, but I'm too busy thinking something like: 11*11=121. 12*12=144... Pi = 3.14159265358979323846... Area of a circle is Pi r squared... So swimming not only exercised the body, but also the mind... If you can walk 5km , you can join a triathlon
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Post by greywall on Jan 18, 2007 11:24:37 GMT 8
@greywall : was that knee problem you had during yesterday's ride a crepitus? on another note, i believe based on experience (actually happening to me) that cracking joint, in my case my knees, is a symptom of damage, again in my case an osteoarthiritic right knee. @gadgets : yes, biking (or swimming) is the best alternative to running when you have a damaged knee. sorry for the late reply kuya arci... what i had during the cavite ride ws not due to crepitus, what i had was a friction syndrome of the right iliotibial band causing pain on the lateral side of my knee... thus, making me teary-eyed when we were pedalling back to manila...hehehe
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Post by arcireyes on Jan 18, 2007 12:00:05 GMT 8
okay thanks for the info. me, after our crossing EDSA and reaching east avenue, i was already experiencing some symptoms of laspagitus
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Post by proroids on Jan 19, 2007 11:17:46 GMT 8
Use Glucosamine. It helps.
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Post by jonah on Apr 7, 2007 2:52:43 GMT 8
how about the neck? ive been doin such cracking on my neck since highschool... i think 13 years nah... im just so worried coz my friend (PT) told me if i dont stop crackin my neck like that, der will be a space on your neck, duno what he meant there, that when you reach 30 up, magkakaruon ng some fracture and may lead to operation... sa fingers ata artrities? spelling correct? anyways, they told me to go to spa twice a month at least... "magpamasahe".. stress daw kasi yun... any back pain or shoulder pain is stress... and do stretch everyday before doin such activity ... i hope it do help... correct me if im wrong. thanks!
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