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Post by mcvarki on Apr 10, 2004 21:03:10 GMT 8
What should a first aid kit for trails include? I usually bring betadine, plaster strips, alcohol, sometimes sanitary wipes, aspirin, liniment.......that's it parang kulang.....
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Post by dadjzilla on Apr 11, 2004 0:16:23 GMT 8
Hi Mcvarki, If weight is not an issue maybe we should include: ilastic bandage, sterile gauze, peroxide( cleans better than alcohol), sachet of sugar/salt.
parang kulang....?
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Post by gulliver on Apr 11, 2004 12:26:37 GMT 8
if ur really roughing it, like on extended trail rides in unknown areas, bring everything you can think of...ammonia, scissors, needle & surgical thread for sewing up really nasty cuts, a sharp knife heavy enough for cutting wood for torniquets, casts...and a first aid book hehehe... ...if i really wanted to be sure, i'd have a pretty nurse riding in support vehicle with everything she needs! guys, i've learned that different commercially sold first aid kits contain different things...and opening them to see what's really inside is a first step to finding out what's missing...then from experience (personal or otherwise) add or subtract...i could drive myself crazy trying to prepare for every contingency (sigh)....parang palaging kulang
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Post by warlock^_^ on Apr 11, 2004 14:14:10 GMT 8
I'm not sure about biking first Aid kit, but I'm the usual medic assigned on climbs, I usually bring First Aid treatment only for Cuts & Abrasion... and Triangular Bandage, Oral Rehydration Salts, Lots of Pain Killers, typical meds for Head ache & stomach aches.
To lessen my load I bring Kirkland's Triple ointment, this will replace, burn ointment, antibiotics for cuts & abrasion....I carry this for high susceptibility of wound infection during climbs.
As for Sprains or Fractures, that's where the Triangular bandages comes in...for fractures T-bndage and improvied splints will do.
One which I want to bring but failed to do so, is the Snake Bites First Aid kit...I rely more on the idea of snakes are scared of people...in case of bites....I'll just apply Ventosa Method ;D
BTW...McV, your kit is enough for cuts & abrasions already...by hey its only First Aid, for scissors or knife...I guess this is a standard kit if you have a small leatherman, gerber or Swiss Army on your tool kit.
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Post by dadjzilla on Apr 12, 2004 7:47:57 GMT 8
Aside from those first aid aid gadgets and supply, siguro the very impt. thing is the knowledge about first aid. Since we're riding mostly in rural areas we should also include plants and its herbal benefits.
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Post by dinarciso on Apr 12, 2004 9:57:07 GMT 8
Warlock is a great medic, he was our medic for good part of the year....before him I was assigned to be one but was booted out when I all I brought was alcohol (gin bulag to be precise, he-he). Seriously, remember what Hippocrates said ( ) : "First, do no harm."
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Post by boyok on Apr 12, 2004 11:23:31 GMT 8
Sa akin, Swiss knife, Betadyne, antibacterial ointment, surgical tape, cotton swabs, Bandaid and Charmee sanitary napkins ;D ;D ;D Sa mga nakakita, alam nyo na kung bakit Charmee ;D ;D ;D To the uninitiated, Charmee napkins can be cut to whatever size and shape to cover all but the largest flesh wounds
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Post by gulliver on Apr 12, 2004 11:51:44 GMT 8
Sa akin, Swiss knife, Betadyne, antibacterial ointment, surgical tape, cotton swabs, Bandaid and Charmee sanitary napkins ;D ;D ;D Sa mga nakakita, alam nyo na kung bakit Charmee ;D ;D ;D To the uninitiated, Charmee napkins can be cut to whatever size and shape to cover all but the largest flesh wounds ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D boyok, ikaw pala may dala sa charmee noong munti ride natin?!!! dude, bow ako sa you!!! (hehehe....aray ko, sakit tyan ko!)
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Post by warlock^_^ on Apr 12, 2004 12:24:28 GMT 8
Warlock is a great medic, he was our medic for good part of the year....before him I was assigned to be one but was booted out when I all I brought was alcohol (gin bulag to be precise, he-he). Hehehe thanks Dinds, though my usual briefing on every climbs is simple.."Bawal magkasakit, bawal madapa & Bawal Masugatan" ;D Hate bringing Betadine, they tend to leak whenever we're on higher elevation due to variance of pressure. Maybe its just the containers. Charmee? hehehe baka nde mahilom ha, lam nyo naman kung saan sugat ginagamit yan (if you get my drift hehehe ) Speaking of Gin bulag... record breaking kung dala na Gin sa Mt. Daguldol...750ml na gin! nung inipon ang dala, umabot ng 6 liters not counting the Lambanog ;D
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Post by boyok on Apr 12, 2004 12:42:49 GMT 8
Hate bringing Betadine, they tend to leak whenever we're on higher elevation due to variance of pressure. Maybe its just the containers. Charmee? hehehe baka nde mahilom ha, lam nyo naman kung saan sugat ginagamit yan (if you get my drift hehehe ) Charmees or any other slim napkins are great at absorbing blood (ladies, pardon the pun ;D) tapos di pa dumidikit tulad ng gauze. Tested na rin na nakakapagaling without the wound producing scars -- basta lang laging may nakatakip na napkin sa @%$@* oooppss sa sugat. ;D ;D ;D
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Post by yong on Apr 12, 2004 14:31:21 GMT 8
we experience a bad day last april 7 in maarat we are a group of around 12 to 15 riders hehehehe dalawa yung naaksidente and the lesson is dalawa lang din kaming may dalang first aid eksakto lang yung dala namin pag may isa pang naaksidente hopefully wala naman hehehehe dahon na lang ng bayabas ang panggagamot heheheehe i think we should assign two or more depending on how big is the grooup na magdala ng first aid whenever we ride one with the trail guide and the other one with the sweeper. and i think we should always do an estimate on the riders going with us para di kapusin yung mga first aid hehehehe mahirap maubusan sa trail walang mercury sa bundok
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Post by warlock^_^ on Apr 12, 2004 16:16:38 GMT 8
Better yet... If you are the Trail Master, require everyone to bring the basic First Aid Kit like Mcvarki has, that way everyone will be more aware that this is a basic requirement aside from the tools. This wont weigh much So if may notice na rides, dagdag reminder to bring First Aid kit...pansin ko kasi yung nde nagdadala yun madalas nasusugatan at naaksidente ;D
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Post by radical1962 on Apr 12, 2004 17:21:04 GMT 8
Me? I always bring painkillers like Mefenamic Acid (ponstan 250) or Alaxan FS. This is especially helpful after a crash and you still have to pedal out of the woods for a couple of hours after the adrenalin wears out.
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Post by kicker15 on Sept 22, 2004 15:06:51 GMT 8
galing nga mga ideas na yan ah. i learned something new. from now on dadala na ko nung charmee and ng hydrogen peroxide.... nice idea din yung alaxan FR.
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