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Post by gulliver on Mar 20, 2004 21:47:12 GMT 8
;D ;D ;D no, am not thinking of training for a race...just that at my age, i'm becoming more conscious of my how i ride and push my heart. so i am currently looking at the Polar S-series of heart rate monitors, and in particular the S 150, the S 610, or the S510. The first two are readily available (saw them today at powerbikes), and the S610 comes with the Polar Precision Performance Software as part of the package. does anyone have experience with these models? or are there better priced models out there with similar features? salamat in advance!
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Post by boyok on Mar 20, 2004 22:36:02 GMT 8
Gulliver, I've been using the S710i since November last year. It's loaded with features that I can't seem to figure out ;D Aside from displaying your heart rate, 1) it's got this software which is compatible with Windows 95 and higher versions. The software allows you to download via IR each ride's data and monitor your progress over time. The catch is the local Polar distributor doesn't have the Polar IR device in stock and off-the-shelf IR devices with USB connectors available at computer shops don't work with the software. I haven't been able to make it work and so does a friend who has the same model. 2) It allows you to program different types of bike workouts. When you select any of the workouts, the monitor will remind you via beeps while you're riding when specifics like time(warm up, recovery, cool down) , intervals, or heart rate target zones have been met or exceeded. 3) It predicts your maximal oxygen uptake (VO2max) and maximum heart rate. 4) Unlike other wireless HRM's, it doesn't get much interference. 5) It comes with a wireless bike sensor that transmits readings of your speed, distance, altitude and temperature to the main wrist unit. You may do away with your usual cyclocomputer na. The wrist unit is very durable and reliable -- trail proven and crash tested na ;D While the HR strap is reliable, the bike sensor isn't really so. Minsan miski tumatakbo ka, biglang magstop na lang yung speedometer and trip meter. Extra jarring upsets the transmission. Swack naman yung HRM na 'to for techies like you, Sir. As for guys like me, matagal na kapaan pa kailangan ;D The S710i will set you back a lot more bucks than the other models. But if you're considering at some time in the future studying the above data to improve your game, it's the model to get
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Post by gulliver on Mar 21, 2004 11:56:26 GMT 8
boyok, salamat sa feedback mo dude! parang top of the line yung nakuha mo ah hehehe, but seems like it has a lot more features than the others...if you can figure them out nga ;D tanong ko lang...yung software na kasama nya na sinasabing pang win95 up...kasama ba XP doon? also, the IR device you're talking about...that's not built in sa polar model mo? i thought it was... and that all you needed was a pc with an IR device... last question, has this device really helped you maximize your workout sessions? you know kasi, with other things, if its too d@mn hard to use, you won't use it...and sayang lang pera natin... hope you can help me figure these things out, thanks
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Post by boyok on Mar 21, 2004 20:39:31 GMT 8
Gulliver, yup the Polar software is XP compatible. The wrist device has a built-in IR transmitter. The thing is yung USB IR devices na nabebenta sa PC shops can't receive yung dina download ng wrist device. I've been checking out the Polar website for a supposed software upgrade but there isn't one. The HRM has definitely improved my ride. Using info on how to use HRM's from books and sites like cptips.com, I've been able to : 1) push (intervals at or near my maximum heart rate); 2) pace (recovery rides when morning heart rate is still elevated); or, 3) pare pounds (long aerobic rides at 65-75% of maximum heart rate which also build endurance). You can do all these with a simple HRM but do consider if it's up to the conditions encountered during trailriding. A friend's Nike HRM stopped working after only a couple of months. Have fun shopping
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Post by gulliver on Mar 21, 2004 20:46:35 GMT 8
thanks ulit boyok... kuha ko na. hope to get one within the week...really need to know what my ticker is doing na kasi, hehehe... ride safe!
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Post by boyok on Apr 2, 2004 13:38:45 GMT 8
Gang, I got a Cateye HRM for P3k+ from Cristy's (02-5512828). Can't remember the exact price kasi nag trade in lang ako. Mukhang released 'to nuon pa coz I don't see it in Cateye's newer brochures. The unit has both HRM & cyclocomputer features. The interface between the unit and the chest strap is wireless while unit-to-fork sensor is wired. Strap battery replacement is a easy, just replace it with the recommended coin battery (pareho ng sa main unit) -- di katulad ng Polar which you have to bring to the distributor. Accurate naman yung HRM readings. Looks sturdy although mukhang di ganoon ka waterproof coz of the way the buttons are placed. I have yet to test it sa trail. If you're considering getting a biking-specific HRM, you may want check out this one.
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Post by warlock^_^ on Apr 2, 2004 14:07:44 GMT 8
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Post by dasaint on Apr 2, 2004 16:29:59 GMT 8
my personal preferences if i like my heartrate monitor seperate from my cyclocomputer. I used to have a Vetta cyclo computer with HRM function. It wasnt that durable. So I prefer the polar Heart monitors.
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Post by gulliver on Apr 2, 2004 19:19:09 GMT 8
Mondy recommended the cateye to me as well...but i opted for the polar 710i b/c of the many features and software that came with it. it allows you to track on a graph exactly what you did, and you can configure it to what you want to do in the future. thing is, this setup is a bit complicated hehehe, its been like 10 days since i got it, and only today was able to read out the recorded file on my computer on the whole, i think i like it, just need to study it some more
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Post by boyok on Apr 12, 2004 10:57:00 GMT 8
Gulliver, yes Sir it's the CC-HB100 alright. 15+ hours on the trail and it works fine -- sweet and simple. It lacks the nifty software and programmable exercise sets of the Polar S710i but it's OK if you're out to just keep tabs of your ticker while riding.
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Post by gulliver on Apr 12, 2004 11:56:23 GMT 8
Boyok, I'm asking you this b/c you have experience with the Polar 710i... yung predected HRmax niya, in my case 182, pag linampasan mo yan like mga 195 bpm...will my heart stop ticking and die?
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Post by boyok on Apr 13, 2004 21:53:11 GMT 8
Boyok, I'm asking you this b/c you have experience with the Polar 710i... yung predected HRmax niya, in my case 182, pag linampasan mo yan like mga 195 bpm...will my heart stop ticking and die? Hmmm, bata ka pa pala Sir ;D Kaya pala ikaw yung nagstart nung isang very popular thread ;D ;D ;D Seriously now, no you won't knock on heaven's door naman if you hit or exceed your HRmax. Besides, you won't get near your HRmax if you're not fit enough -- that is you don't have the aerobic base to start with and have not logged in tempo and speed training. I personally have met my age-adjusted (220 minus age) HRmax and held it for a few seconds. It's stressful on the system so it's followed by high-cadence (to get rid of the lactic acid built up during the anearobic phase) low-intensity period which allows your HR to return to much lower levels (back to aerobic at about 65-75% of HRmax). If you're doing intervals for the day, you may repeat this cycle several times. There are several formulas for getting your HRmax and, from there, determining your training zones. These include: 1) Age-adjusted 2) Karvonen equation (uses the difference between your age predicted maximum and your resting pulse rate) 3) Colorado research formula (good for both men and women and advocated by the Harvard Medical School) : HRmax = 208 - 0.7 x (your age) 4) Maffetone method Medyo tedious to explain in writing so you may want to research both the Karvonen and the Maffetone methods. Sorry I haven't checked them out yet so web For best results, if finances permit (kaya mo naman yan Sir e ;D ;D ;D) get a stress test to get your HRmax.
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Post by gulliver on Apr 13, 2004 23:49:13 GMT 8
well that's a relief! and i'm still typing here responding to your post so i guess that validates it hehehe ;D ;D ;D
noticed din yung Colorado method comes up with the same answer as the age adjusted method...would you know if there's any difference between the answers to these two and the other two you mentioned? (in your case for example?)
in any case, this whole heart monitor thing has got me hooked ;D
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Post by boyok on Apr 14, 2004 0:08:38 GMT 8
The answers given by the age-adjusted method and the Colorado research team's formula are the same if not similar when the age is around 35 years. The younger or the older one is, the more significant the differences become.
Check out "The Harvard Medical School Guide to Men's Health" edited by Harvey B. Simon, M.D., Free Press: NY, 2002 ;D ;D ;D
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Post by gulliver on Aug 13, 2004 20:50:00 GMT 8
one thing i can say about using a heart rate monitor, its your best friend when you're biking alone. it gives you a purpose for going out on your bike ;D
how many times have you passed on pulling your bike out for a ride, just because wala kang kasama? i used to do that a lot hehehe....but w/ an HRM, you don't think about that. nakakaset ka ng goals, at may purpose ang bawat ride.
so if you hate riding alone, get an HRM! it doesn't need to be fancy, it just needs to work right. ;D
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Post by lucban on Oct 2, 2004 12:55:07 GMT 8
That's agood idea to get a HM.Probably the best investment that you have to buy if you're a cyclist.It will motivate you to ride more,its safer to ride,increase your efficiency in your work out and if you're more than 30 y/o. it will help you to avoid over exertion.60% to 80% of you're Max. heart rate is the zone to build up your aerobic power.Increasing your duration in this zone will be you're guide for your improvement.More than 80% is the anaerobic zone or the lactic stage.You have to train on every zone especialy on aerobic zone which is the foundation of all endurance sport.Intensity of your training will be base on your duration on each zone( interval trng etc.)Try to buy CTS book/CarMichael training System(lance a. coach.)Polar is a good brand.Just buy the basic model A3 or M models.S model is too complicated and Numbers is so hard to see while riding.Like me ,i'm using Suunto HR.Aside from HR, you also have to get cycling computers for speed,distance and cadence.Enjoy riding.
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Post by fattire on Oct 3, 2004 8:45:26 GMT 8
how much would a good and durable HRM cost?
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Post by lucban on Oct 3, 2004 12:44:20 GMT 8
Polar HRM A3 model- $65., M models start from $110 and S models start from $140.Just buy the basic model A3.What you need is a HRM that will show your ave. HR,HR duration(below,above and within your target heart zone) and an alarm to inform you if you're out of your target zone.
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