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Post by albatross99 on Dec 1, 2016 22:40:55 GMT 8
i was obsessed with this dirt free cleaning of my bike, and when i saw other pro's they just treat their bike like nothing, "parang wla lang" is it much better not to obsessed with the cleanliness of my bike?☺ how often should i clean it? sorry im just curious on this matter.
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Post by anthrax76 on Dec 1, 2016 23:21:23 GMT 8
it should always be clean and lubed as much you can. may vid sa youtube how to clean your bike in 15 mins
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Post by albatross99 on Dec 1, 2016 23:31:11 GMT 8
wow! im on the right path! what chain lube do you used? im using zefal dry lube.☺
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Post by 18650 on Dec 2, 2016 0:32:12 GMT 8
well i have better things to do than to clean my bikes so i just keep them dirty. i wash down w/ the garden hose only when very muddy
but the drivetrain i always keep clean and lubed
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Post by anthrax76 on Dec 2, 2016 1:22:33 GMT 8
singer oil or any similar product lang ang gamit ko sa chain. i wanna use paraffin dahil okay for wet and dry conditions pero dehins pa ako nakakabili, wala rin oras magtunaw, he he.
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Post by albatross99 on Dec 2, 2016 7:09:25 GMT 8
ah wow! kaya nga lagi tuloy nawawala agad yung lube sa dry... mas ok pala singer or similar magaya nga kita idol... and how about using water? does it damaged my components? should i just wipe it with a ragged if its just dusty? and just washed it if its muddy?☺
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Post by albatross99 on Dec 2, 2016 7:12:17 GMT 8
well i have better things to do than to clean my bikes so i just keep them dirty. i wash down w/ the garden hose only when very muddy
but the drivetrain i always keep clean and lubed
-ok ill apply this.☺
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Post by esulit on Dec 2, 2016 7:42:10 GMT 8
I think the main thing is that keeping it clean should not stop you from riding. Don't stop riding just because you don't want your bike to be dirty. That's what those bikes are for.
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Post by xmayor on Dec 2, 2016 8:48:28 GMT 8
since my bike is barely a month old and i haven't bought a lube yet, i just used what is available in the house after washing the bike last Sunday, excess engine oil, hehehe!
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Post by albatross99 on Dec 2, 2016 11:07:11 GMT 8
thanks for all the info guys! yes ill ride it like theres no tomorrow and i will just relax on the cleaning side.☺
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Post by 18650 on Dec 2, 2016 11:10:57 GMT 8
dry lubes don't really work. i've got several bottles here just lying around unused hehe
i use kerosene as step-1 chain wash. step-2 is kerosene + ATF + gear oil. then wipe away excess
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Post by anthrax76 on Dec 2, 2016 11:37:08 GMT 8
dry lubes for dry rides, wet lubes for wet rides. paraffin wax, for any ride pero recommended to re-apply ka every 600 kms. the thing with singer or similar oils is it will attract dirt which makes the chain rust colored. i'm also on the lazy side so as long as there are no stiff links and the drivetrain is quiet, i'm good. i'm actually a bad example when lubricating chains, ha ha. regarding cleaning btw, never use high pressure hose. it can and it will get into seals to your bearings. regular pressure is enough. you might also want to invert your bike to get rid of water that might have collected in bb. some would drill drain holes in the bb, but i'd rather take off the seatpost and drain by inverting the bike.
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Post by xmayor on Dec 2, 2016 12:38:34 GMT 8
same here, usually i only clean the drivetrain, using kerosene. then apply oil to avoid rusting.
gone are the days that i wash bike and clean every splits and crannies. some bike shops already have washing service!
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Post by spyghost on Dec 2, 2016 13:28:19 GMT 8
i used to clean my rig after every ride. but from a reality check... it's an mtb and meant to be dirty. i'm just wasting my time. i only clean the bike as needed. if it's just dry dust, i just wipe or most of the time ignore. this one needs cleaning after the recent nuvali dirtweekend id there's something i clean more it's the drivetrain. i've been using squirt lube for over a year already and am happy with it. pricey yes, but has kept my drivetrain clean even on muddy conditions. what i like about this lube is that it cleans quicker and just flakes off with the dust that sticks. my only gripe is that it doesn't hold well if you wade in water (which i don't). so far it has stood well in rain and mud. this is my drivetrain after the maxxis event also this year at la mesa, which was muddy as well. if there's one lesson i learned from cleaning, it's not to hose off the caliper. dust somehow managed to slip past the caliper seals and entered the hydraulics and messed up my lever, which i've fixed by dismantling and re assembling.
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Post by jhayzxenon on Dec 2, 2016 14:09:35 GMT 8
regarding cleaning btw, never use high pressure hose. it can and it will get into seals to your bearings. regular pressure is enough. you might also want to invert your bike to get rid of water that might have collected in bb. some would drill drain holes in the bb, but i'd rather take off the seatpost and drain by inverting the bike. when you say invert, turn the bike upside down? isn't this bad when your on a hydraulic brakeset, the last time i turned my bike upside down was when I fixed a flat on the side road after that i noticed a shift in my braking power which became less. on the topic I only clean the bike when I feel like it except for the down tube part where I obsessively maintain to keep clean even while riding haha like others just make sure what needs to be lube is lube'd to avoid rust and those annoying squeaky sounds while riding.
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Post by xmayor on Dec 2, 2016 14:43:33 GMT 8
this one needs cleaning after the recent nuvali dirtweekend if this is how you'll define a dirty bike then i could say my bike is clean and really don't need some cleaning! hahaha! btw, will soon try to explore the nuvali trail. some more training on the road for now to gain strength and stamina... will try kasili tomorrow morning if the weather permits.
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Post by spyghost on Dec 2, 2016 14:48:48 GMT 8
regarding cleaning btw, never use high pressure hose. it can and it will get into seals to your bearings. regular pressure is enough. you might also want to invert your bike to get rid of water that might have collected in bb. some would drill drain holes in the bb, but i'd rather take off the seatpost and drain by inverting the bike. when you say invert, turn the bike upside down? isn't this bad when your on a hydraulic brakeset, the last time i turned my bike upside down was when I fixed a flat on the side road after that i noticed a shift in my braking power which became less. on the topic I only clean the bike when I feel like it except for the down tube part where I obsessively maintain to keep clean even while riding haha like others just make sure what needs to be lube is lube'd to avoid rust and those annoying squeaky sounds while riding. if i get pestered and not able to 'shoot' the wheels, i turn upside down. there's a brief bottoming of the lever, but not something that can't be fixed by flicking a few times. perhaps what you're referring to is long term storage, which i have no experience with
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Post by spyghost on Dec 2, 2016 15:07:57 GMT 8
no one on earth though prevents anyone from cleaning his mtb.
from experience it's not how much clean and lubed you keep your rig but how you do it.
in my first bike, i was using car shampoo, garden hose, dry and lube - tedious tbh.
in the bike i'm using i totally got rid of the soap part and just sprinkle with water from afar and just flick off built up mud with brushes of all sorts - paintbrush, toothbrush, bottle brush. to dry, i raise it high and drop a few times and follow up drying with a rag. i don't really remove the wheels as much as possible.
for the drivetrain, i'm using a degreaser and some stiff brush and a rag.
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Post by anthrax76 on Dec 2, 2016 15:44:57 GMT 8
jhayzxenon, curious that you brought up that topic. it will happen if there are air bubbles in your system. as what sphyghost said, as soon as the bike is upright, you can press the brake lever several times until it's in previous working order. i never had that problem on the shimano non-series hydros though, although i never shortened the hose. I just bought and installed the brakes. if you've had your brakes opened (rebleeding, pms) you might be prone to getting bubbles in the system.
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Post by 18650 on Dec 2, 2016 18:49:03 GMT 8
yeah if properly bled inverting the bike shouldn't cause any problems
actually theres one benefit to inverting the bike. it allows the oil that's normally sitting at the bottom of the fork lowers to migrate into the bushings and hopefully replenish the foam rings right under the wipers (fox bushings have slits to allow this to happen). this applies to most modern forks except full open-bath (which are already well-lubed without inverting).
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Post by albatross99 on Dec 2, 2016 19:19:56 GMT 8
wow!!! thank you guys!!! now i know that i dont have to over think on cleaning my bike, and i just need to take care of my DT and if its only dust on frame ill just ignore it as long as it doesnt affect the performance☺ you guys rock!!!😆
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Post by jhayzxenon on Dec 3, 2016 9:02:22 GMT 8
jhayzxenon , curious that you brought up that topic. it will happen if there are air bubbles in your system. as what sphyghost said, as soon as the bike is upright, you can press the brake lever several times until it's in previous working order. i never had that problem on the shimano non-series hydros though, although i never shortened the hose. I just bought and installed the brakes. if you've had your brakes opened (rebleeding, pms) you might be prone to getting bubbles in the system. sorry for somehow derailing this thread, I'm just concerned because of the difference in braking power is different after that incident, my left brake has no issue, clicked it few times it turns back to normal except for the right brake never had it serviced since i got it this august well anyways, I think I need to have it checked by a bike mechanic, use my sharingan so I can service it myself next time haha yeah if properly bled inverting the bike shouldn't cause any problemsactually theres one benefit to inverting the bike. it allows the oil that's normally sitting at the bottom of the fork lowers to migrate into the bushings and hopefully replenish the foam rings right under the wipers (fox bushings have slits to allow this to happen). this applies to most modern forks except full open-bath (which are already well-lubed without inverting). well that gave me a relief, I think I'll have it serviced soon to be properly bled instead. that bike invert thing keeps me from turning bike upside down except if I'm stuck in the side road having difficulty locking the wheels back in then I'd have no choice.
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Post by konablack on Dec 3, 2016 11:20:53 GMT 8
I usually clean my bike every two months. As for the lube, i don't have any specific time
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Post by panx on Dec 4, 2016 8:31:45 GMT 8
I just wipe my bike with wet cloth unless maputik na talaga. I wash my drivetrain probably once every 2 weeks or so with joy dish washing soap. I take my time with this by the way. Mukhang brand new pa rin ang drivetrain after several months of use. Except for the chainwheel kasi black. Wala na tayong magagawa sa paint chipping.
Don't forget to dry everything up para iwas kalawang. I have a blower (not the hair dryer type) for this but an air compressor is better. Or you can just use a dry cloth kelangan lang ng konting tiyaga.
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Post by albatross99 on Dec 4, 2016 17:02:12 GMT 8
I just wipe my bike with wet cloth unless maputik na talaga. I wash my drivetrain probably once every 2 weeks or so with joy dish washing soap. I take my time with this by the way. Mukhang brand new pa rin ang drivetrain after several months of use. Except for the chainwheel kasi black. Wala na tayong magagawa sa paint chipping. Don't forget to dry everything up para iwas kalawang. I have a blower (not the hair dryer type) for this but an air compressor is better. Or you can just use a dry cloth kelangan lang ng konting tiyaga. galing alright ill take this one☺
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Post by albatross99 on Dec 4, 2016 17:04:34 GMT 8
I usually clean my bike every two months. As for the lube, i don't have any specific time wow kaya naman kita talaga idol eh hahaha kayong dalawa ni sir anthrax.☺
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Post by anthrax76 on Dec 4, 2016 20:43:17 GMT 8
nyak, he he he, i'm a bad example for bike maintenance and cleaning. i know what and when to do it, i simply just don't do it as much as it needs to, ha ha ha.
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Post by panx on Dec 5, 2016 9:57:27 GMT 8
I just wipe my bike with wet cloth unless maputik na talaga. I wash my drivetrain probably once every 2 weeks or so with joy dish washing soap. I take my time with this by the way. Mukhang brand new pa rin ang drivetrain after several months of use. Except for the chainwheel kasi black. Wala na tayong magagawa sa paint chipping. Don't forget to dry everything up para iwas kalawang. I have a blower (not the hair dryer type) for this but an air compressor is better. Or you can just use a dry cloth kelangan lang ng konting tiyaga. galing alright ill take this one☺ Singer oil kasi gamit ko sa chain. After a few rides lang umiitim na agad. By the way, how do you guys maintain your derailleurs? Napansin ko may grease ang brand new. Of course matatanggal yun pag nag wash ka. Pero nung nag reapply ako mas nakaka attract na sya ng dirt/soil.
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Post by anthrax76 on Dec 5, 2016 11:32:11 GMT 8
yeah...grease attracts everything. i just leave the RD alone, yung FD kasi madaling linisin, toothbrush lang. yung RD, kasabay kong nililinis yung chain and the jockey wheels. normally aalisin ko muna yung dumi na naipon sa jockey wheels. tapos linis ng chain, linis ulit ng jockey wheels. tapos lube ng chain, okey na
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Post by simplej0ys on Dec 5, 2016 11:57:58 GMT 8
normally when I clean the drivetrain; 1. take off chain, cassette 2. clean chain, cassette 3. clean RD (still on hanger) 4. dry off chain, cassette 5. re-install cassette, chain 6. lube 7. ride
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