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Post by staind on May 3, 2004 10:46:45 GMT 8
guys, looks like MTBers are switching from 26ers to 29" wheels in the US. some frame manufacturers are now making frames to accommodate the increased wheel size. does anyone know the advantages and disadvantages of bigger wheels?
if ever we join the bandwagon, what needs changing? the frame and wheelsets only? can we use our current component groups?
what is love? ;D
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Post by warlock^_^ on May 3, 2004 11:14:35 GMT 8
guys, looks like MTBers are switching from 26ers to 29" wheels in the US. some frame manufacturers are now making frames to accommodate the increased wheel size. does anyone know the advantages and disadvantages of bigger wheels? if ever we join the bandwagon, what needs changing? the frame and wheelsets only? can we use our current component groups? what is love? ;D Gary Fisher started this trend...advantage is you can go over logs better than 26er does. other than that...check the Gary Fisher's website, they might try to justify this anomaly You need a specifically designed fork also to accomodate 29" wheels...frames....rims...tires...tubes Outside magazine's comment before when the Gary Fisher Mt. Tam came out, 29" wheels will be hard to come by once this passion died down. I'll stay with 26".... ;D
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Post by staind on May 3, 2004 12:50:58 GMT 8
here's more info from a road bike forum. ----------------------------------- The reason behind 26 inch wheels is that they were the size wheels on beach cruisers that the original group of riders were converting to mountain bikes in Marin County back when mountain biking was born. It just so happened that the cruisers had 26 inch wheels, so they used them and because that's what they started with, that's what they stuck with. Nobody ever even thought about if another size was better at the time. 29 inch wheels first go their start in the later 90's and Fisher seems to be the first really big bike company to try to push the change. Fisher didn't start the trend, but they seem to be the biggest company to push it to date. One of the reasons it failed to catch on in the 90's was the lack of a suspension fork company to get behind it. Now Marzochi is making 29 forks and a couple companies are making tires so the trend has a little more life than in the past. I have riden 29 inch mountain bikes, and I will say one thing about them, under the right conditions, they are much faster than 26 inch wheels. On straight courses and courses without a whole lot of tight turning, they are faster than 26 inch wheels. They start to suffer if the trail is very technical with tight turns. They also ride faster over roots and small bumps. Fisher claims them to ride over obstacles better due to the size. You can read all their hype at their website, www.fisherbikes.com if you like. But they state that the only reason for using 26 inch wheels is because that's what they started with (and of course Gary Fisher would certainly know) and nobody thought to test for a better design until much later on, and after the standard was already set at a 26 inch wheel. ----------------------- so all that needs changing is the frame, wheelsets and fork. marzocchi makes 29er forks and there are 29" tubeless tires. that GF supercaliber 29 looks da*n good for a 29er! and it weighs around 23.xx lbs only despite the big tires!
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Post by warlock^_^ on May 3, 2004 14:46:40 GMT 8
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Post by boyok on May 3, 2004 16:40:58 GMT 8
Staind, MarkB, Allegra, bagay siguro yan 29er sa inyo mga brad ;D
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Post by staind on May 3, 2004 16:52:25 GMT 8
oo nga! para naman di mukhang BMX yung rides namin! :harhar: :harhar: :harhar:
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Post by woofers on May 15, 2004 18:25:00 GMT 8
so all that needs changing is the frame, wheelsets and fork. Dude, that's pretty much everything! And don't forget that the gearing will be affected as well.
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Post by staind on May 16, 2004 0:33:57 GMT 8
gearing or the drivetrain won't be affected. u can use a regular 26er gruppo such as ur existing one.
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Post by bukoy on Jun 10, 2004 15:19:29 GMT 8
Oks lng kung gawing 29'er sa US mahahaba naman kc ng mga binti ng mga yon d2 sa pinas hirap na nga akong pasayarin ang paa ko sa 26'er sa 29'r pa kaya? Pero advantage yan more edge sa speed kc plus 3 inches na ung gulong.
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Post by warlock^_^ on Jun 10, 2004 15:42:23 GMT 8
Nga pala main advocate nyan dito is worthy of that size ;D
none other than one of the giants here: STAIND 6' 1"
not 6" 1" girth ;D
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Post by jr on Jun 10, 2004 21:57:56 GMT 8
I read this article somewhere. This is been introduced two years ago but seems like bike consumer not really interested. I think bikes use 29" wheels is for Cyclocross. As "Warlock said" the advantage is for jumpling logs. I think the disadvantage is when climbing rocky and technical sections more energy and pedal power.
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Post by trixxter on Jul 27, 2004 11:17:19 GMT 8
Will 29" wheels become a trend in mountainbiking or Is it just a marketing hype? I remember GARY FISHER also developed forks with size EVOLUTION (1-1/4") steerer tube. It caught up during the mid '90s but was eventually phased out. Although, last '02 MANITOU unvailed forks with a size 1.5" steerer tube option but I'm not sure if it's becoming a standard in DOWNHILL/FREERIDE.
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