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Post by tabirak on Mar 5, 2007 8:26:11 GMT 8
hi ,
im planning to buy a new frame. 5 months rider pa lang po. my old frame is a giant anthem.
im looking at the blur xc, superlight and the heckler. i like riding xc/ all mountain. can anybody give reviews and the difference between the 3 and which can you recommend?
may i know why is SC frames expensive than the other frames. is it really worth it?
thanks
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Post by xctofi on Mar 5, 2007 8:39:13 GMT 8
wow! 5 months riding and the Anthem is already old for you!hehehe
Blur XC and Superlights are specifically designed for XC riding.
I think most would recommend the Heckler as an all around bike.
with the price,i dont know why as well,i guess its the brand name or something.
there are a few similar topics like this,ill look it up,it might help
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Post by xctofi on Mar 5, 2007 8:59:16 GMT 8
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Post by g.b.b on Mar 5, 2007 9:03:15 GMT 8
santa cruz is my bet. go for blur xc lightness
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Post by cobym on Mar 5, 2007 9:24:22 GMT 8
There was a head to head comparison of the Blur and the Superlight in MBAction a few years ago. Check out their webpage.
For all mountain, I think you should go for the heckler. But the blur is a lighter and more efficient trailbike. Take note, an all mountain rig should be tough enough to do some jumps, handle super rough descents at speed and at the same time climb. Re-evaluate the kind of riding and trails you do (or want to do) and pick the bike accordingly.
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Post by OnebyOne on Mar 5, 2007 9:35:02 GMT 8
Blur XC, Superlight, Heckler and to add more confusion, let's include the Nomad as well...  All of this bikes are good performers and will satisfy every riders who own one of these babies...;D To make it easier for you to choose, try to evaluate your riding style and specially the TRAILS that you'll mostly ride and decide from there... Oppps...a little spam here, I'm selling a heckler by the way... |
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Post by GALVinChie on Mar 5, 2007 10:39:42 GMT 8
For an all-around bike, Heckler with the 5th element damper if you'll be doing jumps or nasty trail rides.
On the other hand, since you'll be coming from an XC Anthem frame, it'll be redundant to purchase another XC frame from a different brand.
My pick on the three mentioned? I'd go for the Superlight if XC. There'll be lesser joints to maintain and it's the Heckler's smaller brother--old but still reliable.
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Post by OnebyOne on Mar 5, 2007 10:44:24 GMT 8
Oh Yeah! I would say, keep the Anthem and get the Heckler instead...best combination |
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Post by jr on Mar 6, 2007 9:45:47 GMT 8
Why the superlight is on the list? For me eliminate the superlight because is similar to heckler but with more travel and beefier.
since you already have the anthem as an xc bike. Heckler is a choice.
For me save the anthem as a spare bike then get the blur XC for all around ride ;D. Have a 4.5" of travel that you can almost do everything. Just dont do more than 3 foot drop because skinnier than the blur classic.
I have intense 5.5, trek fuel 100 and blur xc and I used the blur xc for all the ride since i go it.
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Post by tabirak on Mar 6, 2007 22:43:44 GMT 8
tnx for the replies.
the anthem is not old for me but a friend is offering a good price for it so i thought why not change it to a SC frame. but i dont know what to choose. i usually climb on concrete roads ang go down on rough roads and single tracks. i dont do jumps. i would like a light FS frame. i thought of the blur xc but some reviews says that its bushing squeeks . it needs a lot of maintainance. is it true? i think the heckler is a little heavy. so im gunning for the superlight. with my kind of riding, do you think the superlight is the one? hehehe
p.s. i can only afford 1 bike
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Post by jr on Mar 6, 2007 23:02:39 GMT 8
So far mind doesnt have yet. I use twice a week for the last 3 months. Maintenance and cleaning on your bike is bonding ;D. I have the 5.5 (similar technology) it squeak's but just put little lubrication on the joints after cleaning will eliminate the problem.
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Post by extraFunky on Mar 7, 2007 0:55:37 GMT 8
ollibot, upgrade na parts? hahaha ana gyud. go with the blur xc. it'll save you money in the long run. if you go with the superlight now, in another five months, upgradeitis will hit you again and you'll be looking back at the blur.  i was actually gonna say ge the blur LT, because of more travel, but XC has better standover clearance for us vertically challenged folks (mga potot).  jay |
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Post by xctofi on Mar 7, 2007 6:24:34 GMT 8
Heckler out.
go for the Blur. its an all arounder
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Post by cobym on Mar 7, 2007 8:11:21 GMT 8
Heckler out. go for the Blur. its an all arounder ...unless you want to do dirt jumps, some light freeride, occasional downhills... the blur xc can take some abuse, but not near the abuse a heckler can take. if you ride mainly xc, trail, the blur is it. Again, it all boils down to what kind of riding you want to do. BTW, how heavy are you? If you're heavy (190lbs up), the heckler might be better for you. |
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Post by xctofi on Mar 7, 2007 8:31:12 GMT 8
i usually climb on concrete roads ang go down on rough roads and single tracks. i dont do jumps. i would like a light FS frame. |
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Post by pazigrider on Mar 7, 2007 8:38:20 GMT 8
i would just like to add to the confusion - go for the Heckler ;D ;D ;D and if you don't like it after five months - sell it to me 50% off ;D but i really like the Heckler |
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Post by pazigrider on Mar 7, 2007 13:11:53 GMT 8
and if i may add - your confusion brad. tabirak is actually a minor one as it's just a matter of which high end frame to choose my confusion is rather a major one - and that is where to find a budget to probably buy those expensive frames ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by cobym on Mar 7, 2007 14:28:32 GMT 8
confusion indeed!!!! It took me around a year to overcome my confusion as to what FS frame to get. When I finally got my bike, I kicked myself for wasting a year trying to decide. The bottom line is..... all your choices are good bikes. And any would doubtless give you years of riding pleasure. [... ok tofi, you win....  the blur xc is indeed more suitable if you dont intend to do jumps or really rough stuff... but the heckler is cheaper. ] |
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Post by tabirak on Mar 7, 2007 20:38:15 GMT 8
im 190 lbs. yep your right the heckler is realy cheaper . i like the blur xc but the price of heckler is making me think twice heheheh
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Post by tabirak on Mar 7, 2007 20:39:33 GMT 8
thanks you for all your replies. it confused me more hehehehe
thanks guys for your honest opinions......
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Post by gt on Mar 7, 2007 21:38:33 GMT 8
@ Tabirak ,
Here's a reference for your confusion ,check the list below .
My personal Opinion ,
1. You need to consider two wt category
a. Wt of the frame -->Blur XC (RP23 - 5.2 lbs. ) vs Heckler ( DHX air - 6.8 lbs.) --> difference ( 1.6 lbs. )
b. Wt of the price tag -->100K + php vs 50K + php --> difference ( 50K+ php )
Example : not accurate price tag but close to reality , @ 50K+ Php difference you can set up the heckler lighter by buying high end and lightwt parts . But it all boils down to your personal preference and spending power .
07 Frame Weights
Blur XC
RP23 5.2 lbs.
Blur LT
RP23 6.35 lbs.
DHX 6.65 lbs.
Blur classic
RP3 6.0 lbs.
Superlight
RP23 5.2 lbs.
Juliana
RP23 5.1 lbs.
Heckler
Float R 6.5 lbs.
DHX air 6.8 lbs.
DHX coil 7.3 lbs.
Nomad
Float R 7.25 lbs.
DHX air 7.55 lbs.
DHX coil 8.35 lbs.
VP-Free
DHX coil 9.4 lbs.
DHX air 8.6 lbs
V10
DHX coil 10.7 lbs.
Chameleon
4.25 lbs.
Jackal
Standard 6.5 lbs.
Long 6.75 lbs.
Bullit
DHX air 8.0 lbs.
DHX 3 coil 8.82 lbs.
DHX 5 coil 8.86 lbs.
*All frames med./powdercoat
Ano .06 lbs. less
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Post by bongjumper on Mar 7, 2007 23:37:54 GMT 8
Go for Yeti 575... I highly Recommend it... |
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Post by gt on Mar 11, 2007 21:34:26 GMT 8
Sir Bong,
Nice recommendation , we've been waiting for your review on your new rig YETI 575
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Post by dayuhan on Mar 12, 2007 14:58:06 GMT 8
If you're debating between Heckler and Blur XC, Blur LT seems like it would be a good compromise, no?
Yeti 575 would also be an excellent choice.
Actually, thinking of all these nice options.... hell, pick any one of them, at random, and go out and ride a lot.
The XC vs AM thing isn'y only about weight and travel. The AM bikes also have a slightly slacker head angle, which makes climbing a little harder but also is a little more forgiving on technical stuff, especially going down. Steep head angle makes it easier to tip the bike forward and go over the bars! Something to consider...
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Post by boredmdmtber on Jul 11, 2007 15:07:48 GMT 8
I have a Blur XC. My riding buddy has a 575 Yeti. We ride almost everyday because Bootleg Canyon, Nevada is our backyard. My other buddy has a Heckler. His Heckler is almost 40 lbs. My buddy's 575 frame has cracked twice and its still more than 31 lbs with his setup. My Blur XC is less than 25 lbs with "trailbike/all-mountain" components. Guess who's smiling all the time, uphill and downhill?
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Post by grnhrnt on Jul 11, 2007 16:30:08 GMT 8
To add to the confusion get why not a specialized stumpjumper! 5 in travel 26 lb wt. all around/ one bike!
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Post by warlock^_^ on Jul 11, 2007 16:46:02 GMT 8
I ride a Classic Blur with RP3....and I'm confused ;D
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Post by Alphabolt on Jul 11, 2007 17:18:51 GMT 8
this thread is really about The One Bike .....hahahah more confusion pls! Now the real question is: has TABIRAK bought his frame already? |
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Post by arcireyes on Jul 11, 2007 17:53:57 GMT 8
if i may add my 0.02 share to the confusion www.bicycling.com/article/1,6610,s1-1-384-15944-1,00.html www.bicycling.com/article/1,6610,s1-1-384-16049-1,00.html www.bicycling.com/article/1,6610,s1-1-384-16070-1,00.html copy and paste na lang the link, these are reviews on the SC heckler, nomad and superlight ;D |
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the blur xc is indeed more suitable if you dont intend to do jumps or really rough stuff... but the heckler is cheaper. 
