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Post by tabirak on Nov 12, 2006 19:55:17 GMT 8
hi. can u guys give a review of your crankbrothers pedals. what models are good and where can we buy crankbrothers ?
thanks
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Post by king on Nov 12, 2006 20:40:58 GMT 8
they're light, comfortable (15-20 degrees of float), easily repaired but expensive, but if you're lucky you can get a pair second hand. the local distributor is Velocity in Cartimar. aside from the pedals they sell nearly all the accesories including road & mountain cleats, pedal rebuild kits, multi tools & pumps.
i own two pairs that i both bought second hand- the original 2002 eggbeaters & the candy sl's that i have on my xc bike and my road bike respectively. aside from being great pedals, you also get great support from the company themselves. i've emailed them twice already for small issues and they responded immediately, and even sent me spare parts & stickers for free.
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Post by xctofi on Nov 12, 2006 20:44:12 GMT 8
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Post by paolomiguel on Nov 17, 2006 9:13:28 GMT 8
this review is for the eggbeater sl... pros: light, easy to get into, mud shedding design.. cons: no tension adjuster,high maintenance... bottom line: i've also used both shimano and ritchey pedals and i i really loved tension adjustment dials. i ride trails a lot and and might consider myself a semi aggressive rider( if there's a thing) .whenerver i go downhill on my hardtail and hit bumps or ruts, it somehow releases.i didnt have this kind of problems when riding with other pedals.. so if youre into xc competition and is a weight weenie,buy these.if your cup of tea is doing freeride,DH or anything aggressive, get a different pair. my 2 cents
eggbeaters mxr: heavy..consider getting a C coz of price diff.. eggbeaters C : best bang for the buck.. eggbeaters sl: you can get these for the price of a C if ebay seller ships to P.I.
eggbeaters 2ti: wallet becomes anorexic .slight diff of weight with sl.
eggbeaters 4ti: droollllll.....15,000 php!!! and that's a discounted rate!!!!
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Post by tabirak on Nov 17, 2006 9:44:21 GMT 8
thanks guys. i decided to buy the shimano coz of the tension adjust.
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Post by pjax on Nov 18, 2006 14:16:10 GMT 8
using shimano is like using MS Windows. compatibility issues you get to ride most of other's bikes (and they can ride yours as well)
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Post by Alphabolt on Nov 18, 2006 15:23:44 GMT 8
Good for you tabirak but I'd consider the mud-clearing features of the Crank Bros...it s pretty high up in the list of wanted features by bikers AND the ease of use of the CBs I own Candy SL, Candy C & Mallet C. I dont like the locked in feel of Shimano peds..but that s purely my preference
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Post by wcoastbo on Nov 19, 2006 8:12:12 GMT 8
thanks guys. i decided to buy the shimano coz of the tension adjust. I'm a long time shimano user. I also thought that tension adjustment was good to have and ran the tension at the lowest setting. I tried a pair of eggbeaters and really liked them. The brass cleat (no lube necessary) gives a tension that is very similar to shimano's lowest setting (when lubed). Brass is very soft (compared to shimano steel cleats) and need replacement more often. eggbeaters are simple (less to break) and require less maintenance. for now I'm sold on crankbros products.
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Post by wcoastbo on Nov 19, 2006 8:18:13 GMT 8
cons: no tension adjuster,high maintenance... what kind of maintenance do you do? I haven't done any in the year I've had my pedals. btw... we don't get a lot of rain in my area so I don't have water related issues.
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Post by king on Nov 19, 2006 8:35:03 GMT 8
hey, bo. are you coming to the PI again next year? try coming around feb. gary (flipnidaho) will be here as well. take your singlespeed this time (or convert your bike here)!
back on topic, the only maintenance you need for the eggbeaters is grease them. it's pretty easy to do. the 2003+ models have a grease port. just put a gease gun in and squeeze in the new grease. the old dirty grease comes out the other side.
on my older, second hand, 2002 model, you just take the end cap off, unscrew the allen bolt that hold everything together, slide it of and repack the wole thing with grease. it's pretty easy to do. the bearings on them also gave out last year (i didnt really take care of them the first two years) so i bought a rebuild kit from VeloCity and repaired them. the kit comes with new end caps, bolts, bushings & bearings. once again, pretty easy to do. soon after i also lost the rubber end cap of my eggbeaters once (too much grease inside). i emailed crank brothers and the sent me a couple of replacement caps, two bearings and a sticker for free.
finally, about the brass cleats, they're softer and will require replacement more often (the release angle gets slooowly wider and wider) but this keeps the cleat from damaging the pedal body itself so the pedal lasts even longer. replacement cleats are pretty expensive though.
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Post by wcoastbo on Nov 19, 2006 15:52:30 GMT 8
thanks king. i'll check the grease in my pedals and do some maintenance. i just purchased some more eggbeaters, the cheap MXR version. these look and feel low quality. I haven't used them yet, but i think its best to stay away from them and get the chrome pedal at the very minimum.
if you see cleats on sale, even ebay, send me a link. i'll purchase several of them and bring them on my next visit. the best price I've found so far is $17. if I ever see them in the $5 range I'll buy 4-5 pairs. I don't know when my next trip back will be, Feb might be too early.
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Post by OnebyOne on Nov 19, 2006 16:10:14 GMT 8
tension adjuster is not really necessary on the eggbeaters...its like a plug and play USB plug to your bike... on the other hand, you put the cleats with two dots on your right shoes for normal tension or the other way around for high tension... I didn't experience any problems within 3 yrs of using it except that the first one I got has already a slightly bent axle...
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Post by 'Bee' on Nov 19, 2006 16:40:43 GMT 8
Eggbeaters have the necessary amount of tension you need when you ride. If you think it's not enough, think again. You might not be able to unclip in some split second situation. That's what happened to me at the recent Motorola-Action Asia Off-road triathlon. As a result my left upper body (ribcage) got bruised by my handlebar and brake levers. But I still prefer CB Eggbeaters than Shimano. Did I mention its excellent mud clearing capabilities?
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Post by mountguitars on Nov 19, 2006 16:49:56 GMT 8
hey, bo. are you coming to the PI again next year? try coming around feb. gary (flipnidaho) will be here as well. take your singlespeed this time (or convert your bike here)! back on topic, the only maintenance you need for the eggbeaters is grease them. it's pretty easy to do. the 2003+ models have a grease port. just put a gease gun in and squeeze in the new grease. the old dirty grease comes out the other side. on my older, second hand, 2002 model, you just take the end cap off, unscrew the allen bolt that hold everything together, slide it of and repack the wole thing with grease. it's pretty easy to do. the bearings on them also gave out last year (i didnt really take care of them the first two years) so i bought a rebuild kit from VeloCity and repaired them. the kit comes with new end caps, bolts, bushings & bearings. once again, pretty easy to do. soon after i also lost the rubber end cap of my eggbeaters once (too much grease inside). i emailed crank brothers and the sent me a couple of replacement caps, two bearings and a sticker for free. finally, about the brass cleats, they're softer and will require replacement more often (the release angle gets slooowly wider and wider) but this keeps the cleat from damaging the pedal body itself so the pedal lasts even longer. replacement cleats are pretty expensive though. king, do you have a picture of a grease gun for the eggbeater pedals? is this just the typical grease guns? where did you buy your grease gun? what type of grease do i load? sorry for the dumb questions. i've never actually seen a grease gun before. i think i have to put grease on my eggbeaters by this time. i own 2 sets and i've yet to put any grease. i just put 4-in-1 multipurpose oil on the spindle and that's it, the noise goes away (the sound of a door hinge that needs oil). and i think it comes with an adapter, the one which comes in the box. how do you use it? thanks for any replies.
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Post by king on Nov 19, 2006 18:44:39 GMT 8
i dont have a grease gun. some of the better bike shops will have one. to use the adaptor, unscrew the end cap and put the adaptor on. then put in some grease using a grease gun. if you dont have one or if your lbs doesnt have one, you can unscrew the nut holding the pedal body on the spindle. the bearing and body will slide off and you can grease put grease on. usually i slather a thick layer all over the axle.
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Post by paolomiguel on Nov 19, 2006 23:04:06 GMT 8
cons: no tension adjuster,high maintenance... what kind of maintenance do you do? I haven't done any in the year I've had my pedals. btw... we don't get a lot of rain in my area so I don't have water related issues. It rains here every now and then and it turns my fav trail muddy with high water giving me a mud bath, same goes for my bike. i lube my pedals every two weeks with the supplied grease adapter and a grease gun. the amount of grunge in the pedals really surprised me when i pushed the old grease out.
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Post by paolomiguel on Nov 19, 2006 23:12:39 GMT 8
For those who own a pair of eggbeaters....
the cleats have a nasty rep that it ruins the sole of your shoe. someone from ebay sells a protector for this.its called beater blocker. im considering of getting one myself.
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Post by Alphabolt on Nov 20, 2006 0:53:13 GMT 8
Paolom,
could you post a link to the "beater blocker" item ? dont the supplied plastic cleat spacers do the same trick ?
Thanks
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Post by paolomiguel on Nov 20, 2006 4:49:52 GMT 8
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Post by king on Nov 20, 2006 7:29:24 GMT 8
that's pretty expensive for a relatively minor problem. you might really need it if you use carbon soled shoes though. otherwise it's not a big deal.
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Post by bongjumper on Nov 28, 2006 20:59:06 GMT 8
I used eggbeater to my carbon soled shoes. But after three years of using it. I did not encounter problem with my shoes. It's not necessary for me to invest for the beater blocker...
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Post by jr on Nov 28, 2006 22:19:24 GMT 8
I'm similar with BO..been using Shimano for long time but egg better is the best.
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Post by paolomiguel on Nov 29, 2006 7:21:40 GMT 8
thanks king. i'll check the grease in my pedals and do some maintenance. i just purchased some more eggbeaters, the cheap MXR version. these look and feel low quality. I haven't used them yet, but i think its best to stay away from them and get the chrome pedal at the very minimum. if you see cleats on sale, even ebay, send me a link. i'll purchase several of them and bring them on my next visit. the best price I've found so far is $17. if I ever see them in the $5 range I'll buy 4-5 pairs. I don't know when my next trip back will be, Feb might be too early. ey bo, you said you've got the mxr? do u still want it?u wanna sell em?
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Post by Cage Diver on Nov 29, 2006 11:13:27 GMT 8
Time pedals rule! Got a pair of Time Atac Alium, Time Atac Carbon XS and Z-Control and they work real fine with me. The Atac has tension adjust. As for Crank Bros. had a bad experience with them before as the pedal slid off the spindle of my mallet C Crank and had to ride back on the spindle. Heard it happened to someone else too.
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Post by Ka Verong on Nov 29, 2006 11:30:59 GMT 8
I've been using Eggbeater SL, so far it took me 2 crashes before getting used to it. Pros: | - Light
- Engages easily even when mud is sprawling in your shoes.
- Easy maintenance and cleaning
| Cons: | - cleats are made of brass & wear off fast
- pull-up disengage is not posible
- sometimes the pedal will roll when trying to engage
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Bottomline: I couldn't look for anything more if only the pull-up disengage is posible, actually that is the reason why I crashed twice, cause there were occasions that time and position would not allow you to twist your feet to disengage prior to a fall. But despite of it all, It still is an excellent pedal system.
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Post by pazigrider on Nov 29, 2006 14:06:19 GMT 8
my very first clipless pedal is a CB Mallet C. bought it 2nd hand but it's still perfoming good up to this time if i will buy another clipless pedal - it would still be a CB - but this time perhaps a Candy SL
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Post by grnhrnt on Nov 29, 2006 16:04:31 GMT 8
After reading paolomiguel's messager regarding the ruining of the sole of the eggbeater, I decided to take a look at the soles of my shoes and lo and behold, the pastic part is being "eaten" up. There is a deep indentation where the metal of the cleats is in contact w/ the sole of the shoes! (exactly like the pic on the ebay webpage)
I've seen the ebay picture and will be fabricating a pair. I'll inform you guys how it turns out.
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Post by proteinboy on Nov 29, 2006 22:11:27 GMT 8
Yup. The cleat retainer really rubs. You can, however, make a blocker at home.
Buy a guage 18 sheet of stainless steel or thinner gauges. Or you can just get some scraps for free at machine shops and jeepney repair shops.
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Post by Alphabolt on Nov 30, 2006 1:03:37 GMT 8
After reading paolomiguel's messager regarding the ruining of the sole of the eggbeater, I decided to take a look at the soles of my shoes and lo and behold, the pastic part is being "eaten" up. There is a deep indentation where the metal of the cleats is in contact w/ the sole of the shoes! (exactly like the pic on the ebay webpage) I've seen the ebay picture and will be fabricating a pair. I'll inform you guys how it turns out. Yup. for such a simple device...a spacer - shield really...we dont need to buy it Just get an empty plastic container used for petroleum products (oils, additives etc etc)...get black ones so "swabe look" ...then trace your cleats + add 1 cm at top and bottom ...cut...punch holes voila! ;D
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Post by wcoastbo on Nov 30, 2006 2:49:47 GMT 8
ey bo, you said you've got the mxr? do u still want it?u wanna sell em? hey paolo, I've still to try them out since they're on the geared bike and I mostly ride the SS. If I don't like them, then I'll sell to you. Bo
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