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Post by shuzzs on Mar 25, 2006 22:39:33 GMT 8
Can anyone give a review on this frame?
I can't seem to get a review from the net or even see a website for Shawn cycles(?) Although I believe there was a link from another forum regarding this brand... I just can't seem to remember it.
MountG... can you give us your insight on the ride and performance of this frame? How does it ride compared to your NRS? Tnx brad.
Thanks in advance...
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Post by shuzzs on Mar 25, 2006 22:59:05 GMT 8
I searched through the bike gallery and saw turbo's Shawn H2 aka Astrix Solo... www.astrixsports.com/solo.htmlIs this the new name of Shawn cycles or was the company bought by Astrix? Anyway, any name would do as long as the ride is good. The position of the rear shox is somewhat the same with the Giant FS (maestro ?) frames. |
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Post by Patrick on Mar 26, 2006 7:10:03 GMT 8
I believe Shawn is a local brand based on the reliable barbershop talk here in PinoyMTBiker. There are Planet X version of the motolink suspension too. The picture bellow is an example of a cross between a Solo, an H-2 and an H-3  |
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Post by shuzzs on Mar 26, 2006 8:43:47 GMT 8
Patrick, Thanks for the info. I guess that only means that there are bike manufacturers that uses the motolink suspension system that Astrix developed. Here's another example of the a bike that uses the said system: 21eweb.neterprise.com.tw/ShowPage.asp?UnitID=76&ItemID=M05Can anyone share how does the motolink system ride? How does it differ from the single-pivot design used in, for example, a Santa Cruz Heckler? |
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Post by soctrumbiker on Jan 24, 2007 6:29:24 GMT 8
Hello Sir's:
I'm planning to upgrade my frame, Any chance that the H2 is original from a LBS?
I saw 2 items in quiapo, 20,000 pesos each . Also are there any remarks on this frame?They say the frame is for XC,AM and light DH.
TIA
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Post by flow on Jan 24, 2007 19:33:00 GMT 8
i know a local pro rider that uses a shawn h2 frame, team rider of kamikaze. and he has proven its toughness for more than a year now, i think. now he's still using it.
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Post by soctrumbiker on Jan 25, 2007 13:03:47 GMT 8
i know a local pro rider that uses a shawn h2 frame, team rider of kamikaze. and he has proven its toughness for more than a year now, i think. now he's still using it. hmm good investment  How heavy kaya? |
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Post by kulot_salot on Jan 25, 2007 13:22:48 GMT 8
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Post by Dragunov on Jan 25, 2007 15:51:43 GMT 8
how heavy and/or tough....   ...aaahhh.... ....let's just say mountG has been using his H3 for XC/AM...   ;D  correction frodo!!!!!!!!!!!! h2!!!!! h2!!!!!!! h2!!!!!!!! |
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Post by kulot_salot on Jan 26, 2007 7:58:00 GMT 8
typo lang pete! you're to0 freakin' critical!!!! ;D ;D ;D
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Post by soctrumbiker on Feb 7, 2007 12:58:45 GMT 8
Hello PinoyMTBiker which is better in a all mountain frame: Cherry bomb or Shawn h2 You know i'm getting addicted to "upgraditis" . Planning to replaced my GZ-scott. Any good information will be greatly appreciated. ;D TIA |
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Post by mikel on Feb 7, 2007 14:07:15 GMT 8
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Post by soctrumbiker on Feb 8, 2007 7:52:28 GMT 8
@ mikel----ok thanks for the info
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Post by kulot_salot on Feb 8, 2007 8:32:56 GMT 8
Astrix Sports' passion for their design has been recognized by other companys around the world. Astrix has licensed and developed custom frames based on their proven suspension design to some of these companys. The following companies currently use frames developed by Astrix:
Bergamont - Germany - Evolve Team DH
Fever - Italy - Bandit / One 80
Kuwahara - Japan - Delta R 4X
Kuwahara - Finland - Dirt Spirit Dirt Jump
Oxford - Chile - Team OX-6 DH
Planet X - Worldwide - Growler / Storker
Shawn - Philippines - Downhill / Freeride / Cross Country Suspension and Hardtail Models
Solid Bikes - Germany - Mission 9 / Liberator / Index / Harlemconsidering shawn or astrix is kuwahara pala... so quality is no problem!
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Post by mountguitars on Feb 8, 2007 9:31:38 GMT 8
hello soctrumbiker,
the H2 is a good frame. abolutely stiff and even how the suspension works is awesome. the extra link (motolink) makes each bump twitch free which makes the frame stiff and precise in handling. unfortunately though, to make the frame pedal efficient, you'd have to install a pedal efficient shock like the one's sold by fox or manitou. i myself have been looking for these shocks but they're a bit expensive. makes me want to try a new frame altogether (im eyeing a reign or even a trance). i bought my H2 from jane at the same price you posted, comes with a DNM burner shock.
the DNM shock is good but not pedal efficient. a good solution is to turn the rebound knob all the way to its negative setting (zero) so the frame doesnt bob. unfortunately this is cumbersome to do, if you pedal a lot, like me, to far flung places. a shock w/ a lock out would also do the trick better but with such bump eating properties, using a lockout sometimes defeats the purpose of the frame so just install a pro pedal shock.
another thing about the H2 is its long travel. at 4.5", i dont think its good for XC. the long chainstay needed to reach 4.5" of travel, would create a sluggish/slackish feel if you pedal on this rig. kinda like how it feels on DH/freeride bikes, easy and light. i think, in my opinion, this frame is a trail/enduro/aggressive XC frame, the category between XC and all mountain.
slap on 2.1 tires on this rig and you're ready to tackle technical stuff on this rig. just be patient with the long uphills though. its not gonna be that fast but it will get you there. you'll just make bawi when you go downhill, hehehe. ;D. this frame is sulit, i tell you.
hope this helps.
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Post by shuzzs on Feb 10, 2007 23:58:52 GMT 8
The H2 is about 6.5 to 7.5 lbs. depends on the rear shocks installed. Tough... I agree with MountG that this frame is really tough. It does not flex (that much) while it supports my 190 lbs frame.
Although it was tagged as an XC frame, I believed it's for AXC or Trails.
Yes... I would also recommend 2.1 tires on this frame. Although, it's sweet to use 2.35 doing fast downhills run.
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Post by soctrumbiker on Feb 17, 2007 6:44:53 GMT 8
hello soctrumbiker, the H2 is a good frame. abolutely stiff and even how the suspension works is awesome. the extra link (motolink) makes each bump twitch free which makes the frame stiff and precise in handling. unfortunately though, to make the frame pedal efficient, you'd have to install a pedal efficient shock like the one's sold by fox or manitou. i myself have been looking for these shocks but they're a bit expensive. makes me want to try a new frame altogether (im eyeing a reign or even a trance). i bought my H2 from jane at the same price you posted, comes with a DNM burner shock. the DNM shock is good but not pedal efficient. a good solution is to turn the rebound knob all the way to its negative setting (zero) so the frame doesnt bob. unfortunately this is cumbersome to do, if you pedal a lot, like me, to far flung places. a shock w/ a lock out would also do the trick better but with such bump eating properties, using a lockout sometimes defeats the purpose of the frame so just install a pro pedal shock. another thing about the H2 is its long travel. at 4.5", i dont think its good for XC. the long chainstay needed to reach 4.5" of travel, would create a sluggish/slackish feel if you pedal on this rig. kinda like how it feels on DH/freeride bikes, easy and light. i think, in my opinion, this frame is a trail/enduro/aggressive XC frame, the category between XC and all mountain. slap on 2.1 tires on this rig and you're ready to tackle technical stuff on this rig. just be patient with the long uphills though. its not gonna be that fast but it will get you there. you'll just make bawi when you go downhill, hehehe. ;D. this frame is sulit, i tell you. hope this helps. Sir MountG.. Thanks for the inputs.. I learned a lot on this thread.. I wanna buy that frame,noon pa.Apparently i don't have much money to burn yet..waa  i'm getting addicted.. I guess this is the frame I want ;D ;D ;D This will be my 2nd project. All those who contributed thanks po. Mabuhay po kayo...;D ;D |
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Post by mtbtime on Mar 5, 2007 15:02:35 GMT 8
hello all, i'm new here. i'm purchasing my 1st mtb soon and was shown a shawn H-3, its not the one with the motolink suspension though-its something else. the look/name escapes me. does anyone have a review or comment on this frame? and what's the going rate for a frame like this? any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Post by nightcrawler on Mar 5, 2007 18:06:06 GMT 8
Yup its a local brand...Let me clarify...Shawn is made by Pacific Cycles...They make Astrix, Banshee, Canfield to name a few...They are the one's who also owns GT. And Schwinn, I think. So the quality is just the same as these bikes... These are very good quality bikes on a very competitive price...That is why they have good enough rear shocks for it to be affordable. You may upgrade the shocks later...And it will give you the same ride, given the same linkage and geometry, as high end expensive bikes. |
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Post by nightcrawler on Mar 5, 2007 18:11:47 GMT 8
Hello PinoyMTBiker which is better in a all mountain frame: Cherry bomb or Shawn h2 You know i'm getting addicted to "upgraditis" . Planning to replaced my GZ-scott. Any good information will be greatly appreciated. ;D TIA They differ on their linkage. It's up to your preference... Cherry Bomb is Horst link. Shawn H2 is single pivot. Try to ride one if possible before you buy... |
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Post by nightcrawler on Mar 5, 2007 18:38:36 GMT 8
hello all, i'm new here. i'm purchasing my 1st mtb soon and was shown a shawn H-3, its not the one with the motolink suspension though-its something else. the look/name escapes me. does anyone have a review or comment on this frame? and what's the going rate for a frame like this? any help would be greatly appreciated. That's the new H-3. It has a horst link instead of a single pivot... The linkage is similar to this.... ![]() www.thefreeimagehosting.com/Uploads/Images/1663242237500Elsworth new.JPG[/IMG][/URL] |
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Post by mountguitars on Mar 5, 2007 20:12:16 GMT 8
Hello PinoyMTBiker which is better in a all mountain frame: Cherry bomb or Shawn h2 You know i'm getting addicted to "upgraditis" . Planning to replaced my GZ-scott. Any good information will be greatly appreciated. ;D TIA ironically, the new H3 looks like the cherry bomb by dabomb. which is better for all mountain use if you compare a cherry bomb or an H2, the answer for me is the cherry bomb. everything beefy, it'll take on any abuse. take note that the H2 is tagged as an XC frame by astrix's website. but in my terms, its an aggressive xc frame. ;D to cut the story short, there's no point in comparing an H2 with a cherry becoz in the first place, the H2 was never an all mountain frame unlike the cherry bomb. |
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Post by mountguitars on Mar 5, 2007 20:28:52 GMT 8
hello all, i'm new here. i'm purchasing my 1st mtb soon and was shown a shawn H-3, its not the one with the motolink suspension though-its something else. the look/name escapes me. does anyone have a review or comment on this frame? and what's the going rate for a frame like this? any help would be greatly appreciated. hello mtbtime, i guess you like riding downhill a lot that's why you're asking about H-3's. its a good frame. but if all mountain or downhilling is not your game or if you dont know what type of riding you'll be doing, i suggest you get a hardtail first, a frame that doesnt have a rear suspension. get a frame like GT which is tough and sturdy. why get a hardtail? its the basic of all basics. and its not even expensive. a lot of us started on hardtail rigs and later on acquired fullsuspension rigs. you'll be doing a lot of pedalling as a newbie and i dont think you'd pedal a lot on a DH rig. get something that will get the 'ball rolling' and from there, decide what you want to do. a DH rig unfortunately is not pedal efficient becoz of the weight and the suspension and might just collect dust in your room becoz you find it hard to pedal on it or requires a lot of effort. not unless tagaytay is your backyard then go get a DH rig. . but if you're going trail riding from your house in manila going to maarat on a DH rig, that's a great feat, that is if you get to maarat. ;D . i've seen folks do that but they're not newbies any more. just my 2 cents. |
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Post by soctrumbiker on Mar 6, 2007 8:37:50 GMT 8
hi.. hmm I didn't expect I would enjoy mountainbiking ngayon..Until I meet PinoyMTBiker people. ;D ;D ;D OT: I have lots of fun with Kona hardtail for an XC and as road bike, doing 6 laps at MOA (at seaside blvd) during sundays..Sarap ang gaan nang pakiramdam, walang pollution. But for trailridng or XC i have to change my rubber walang traction kasi.Next upgrade na lng. But apparently I felt parang kulang I need a centrum to be complete ;D. I guess a AM frame will do the job. GBB was selling his cherry last year, sayang. Anyway Aidz was selling his cherry, Although wala pa me bread  mountguitarshay, buti na lang I ask, kasi, muntik na ako magdown kay jane. Salamat uli sa info. @night hmm.. will mountguitars allowed me to ride his H2 hmm??? mtbtimeIt's gud u ask 1st b4 u buy, or u end up upgrading & upgrading until u realized di maganda ang performance and cost u more than u ask for. TIA ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by mtbtime on Mar 6, 2007 10:31:43 GMT 8
hello mtbtime, i guess you like riding downhill a lot that's why you're asking about H-3's. its a good frame. but if all mountain or downhilling is not your game or if you dont know what type of riding you'll be doing, i suggest you get a hardtail first, a frame that doesnt have a rear suspension. get a frame like GT which is tough and sturdy. why get a hardtail? its the basic of all basics. and its not even expensive. a lot of us started on hardtail rigs and later on acquired fullsuspension rigs. you'll be doing a lot of pedalling as a newbie and i dont think you'd pedal a lot on a DH rig. get something that will get the 'ball rolling' and from there, decide what you want to do. a DH rig unfortunately is not pedal efficient becoz of the weight and the suspension and might just collect dust in your room becoz you find it hard to pedal on it or requires a lot of effort. not unless tagaytay is your backyard then go get a DH rig. . but if you're going trail riding from your house in manila going to maarat on a DH rig, that's a great feat, that is if you get to maarat. ;D . i've seen folks do that but they're not newbies any more. just my 2 cents. thanx for your valuable inputs mountguitars. i was informed that this rig was specialized to all-mountain and dh when i was looking round for the right bike but i am also in the market for full suspension bikes because i have a slipped disc. two in fact. i've been using a road bike for awhile now(since the 80's) and the mere thought of a hard tail on rough road brings a tear to my eye. hard tails are definitely out of the question for me. tagaytay isn't my backyard but Dh and all mountain is where i want to be. i'm aware of this type of frames' pedal inefficencies and i hope i will be going downhill more than up. as long as its not entirely impossible and that should give me some glimmer of hope. i need the exercise anyway. |
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