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Post by padyak on Jun 25, 2006 13:32:00 GMT 8
Planning to buy a FS frame for freeride/downhill setup but still at a lost what to choose. I am a 5'7" 180 pounder and would love to hear some suggestions (and why) from you guys before making my choice on the said subject. Tnx.
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P-jhay
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Post by P-jhay on Jun 25, 2006 13:58:01 GMT 8
if you're not on a budget why don't you go for Bullit. Since ur a 5'7 guy, u should pick the size of the frame that will fit ur height. "medium" is the standard size of the frame for tall guy like u.
anyway,
i think norco 4x4 is not DH/FR , it's 4x.
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Post by CARLOfornicator(censored) on Jun 25, 2006 15:25:56 GMT 8
yup pjhays right,if you want a freeride /downhill bike,cut your choices down to the h3 and the bullit..there pretty much alike...as alot of us know,bullits are strong as hell and can take anything you thrown at it,and the shawn is pretty strong in its own right...the only thing to consider now is your budget,if your planning/willing to blow lots of money go for the bullit,but if you still planning to blow lots of money but not as much as the bullit go for the shawn...both bike are great bikes,race proven,etc etc...so either way your pretty safe..good luck on that!!
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Post by Patrick on Jun 25, 2006 21:08:56 GMT 8
Shawn if your on a budget , 4by if you love heavy bike for 4X. SC Bullit, high resale value
censored said it all
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Post by wintot on Jun 26, 2006 1:19:32 GMT 8
Question sir's, why is Norco 4x4 classified under freeride fs (mtbr review) if you were sayin its only for 4x? I read some reviews also that its a versatile frame good for dh/fr. Any idea's???
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Post by CARLOfornicator(censored) on Jun 26, 2006 1:25:05 GMT 8
its a good freeride bike,but it doesnt have that much travel as the bullit's and other freeride bikes out there,its good because its a norco ans norco's are know to take everything...
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Post by [ eRECTUS ] on Jun 26, 2006 1:35:50 GMT 8
you won't go wrong with a Bullit  a lot of people can attest to that.. ;D |
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Post by CARLOfornicator(censored) on Jun 26, 2006 1:36:25 GMT 8
i agree.......
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wintot
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Post by wintot on Jun 26, 2006 2:45:37 GMT 8
Ok so norco 4x4 can be for freeride also. Based on information Ived gathered, Norco built this bike specifically intended for 4x use. But it exceeded their expectations coz it handled freeride and downhills amazingly well. Thats why they rename it to 4by and then released the 06 for fr/dh use. It has a horst link suspension, imo the best design for a fs frame. Loves drops, jumps, hucks. Also bombproof. The con/s: Its pretty darn heavy. Not recommended for xc enduro.
SC bullit - is a bombproof frame that can handle the toughest drops, jumps,hucks, that you can throw at and yet it will not fail you. It is light and very sexy. You can whip a big air with it for its lightness. An all around bike since you can set it up for anything you want: freeride, downhill, dj,even xc. It has a long travel but its a single pivot fs. A lot of bobbing when you pedal this bike on a flat surface. The worst design there is in a fs market. Heard that its phasedout and SC will be bringing in a new design for 2007.
SHawn H3 -- looks like a SC bullit on a budget. Lots of european dig this bike. a bullit clone and performs like a bullit as well. But with a better suspension design. Not a lot of bobbing compare to a bullit. For a budget fs this is a knockout.
Hope this helps in your decision. keep on bikin. \m/
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Post by <eVs10nacious< on Jun 26, 2006 10:25:47 GMT 8
i'll go for the sc bullit.....kahit ano p iisipin santa cruz bullit p rin yan......get 2nd hand frame if u find 1.....sc bullit its a all around bike......also value your penny!.....set-up your shox well to eliminate BOB.....or upgarde the shox to DHX 5.0.....fyi, i used sc bullit for almost 4 yrs - no problem @ all.....u can do everything in this frame.....love it ;D
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Post by >rocketman> on Jun 26, 2006 11:00:35 GMT 8
don't forget the floating disc brakes.
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Post by <eVs10nacious< on Jun 26, 2006 15:18:43 GMT 8
if u hav the dhx 5.0.....no need for floating.....but it works! ;D more than perfect |
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Post by OnebyOne on Jun 26, 2006 22:15:42 GMT 8
Bullit with 5th Element or DHX will not bob under pedaling once you set the shock properly. It's the least or almost maintenance free all around bike compare to VPP, ICT, FSR or any other suspension design out there. Bullit still holds the title of a true all around bike that you can setup from a light XC/trailbike up to a FR/DH bike... Yes, it's a single pivot that is not fully active under braking, but nobody else out there riding the bike always braking ;D...hehehe... Sorry guys, I'm a little biased here...I still have and still loving the last Bullit sold on our LBS |
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Post by wadesingson on Jun 27, 2006 21:03:59 GMT 8
extension frames are nice too. horst link and racy looking
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Post by PT on Jun 27, 2006 21:07:52 GMT 8
i'll go for the sc bullit.....kahit ano p iisipin santa cruz bullit p rin yan......get 2nd hand frame if u find 1.....sc bullit its a all around bike......also value your penny!.....set-up your shox well to eliminate BOB.....or upgarde the shox to DHX 5.0.....fyi, i used sc bullit for almost 4 yrs - no problem @ all.....u can do everything in this frame.....love it ;D tama! race proven na yan! just set it up right and choose your parts wisely.ü bullit all the way,man! i have nothing against the h3.proven lang talaga yung bullit! floating disc brakes is a must if you wanna compete with the top guns. ;D |
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Post by OnebyOne on Jun 27, 2006 22:02:19 GMT 8
OT here and didn't mean to hijack the this thread but how much does a second hand 04 or 05 Bullit cost right now  |
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Post by PT on Jun 27, 2006 22:24:15 GMT 8
depends eh .. if i would sell mine .. i'd say around 55k .. mines a 2005 make.
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Post by padyak on Jun 30, 2006 1:37:12 GMT 8
tnx 4 d input sirs. made my decision....tnx again.
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Post by CARLOfornicator(censored) on Jun 30, 2006 8:16:36 GMT 8
PT- why ru selling the bullit?
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Post by PraeTorian on Jun 30, 2006 10:01:33 GMT 8
bullit is the best choice man...  |
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Post by PraeTorian on Jun 30, 2006 10:02:51 GMT 8
bullit w/ DHX 5.0...
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Post by cobym on Jun 30, 2006 11:36:34 GMT 8
I totally disagree with the statement that the single pivot, such as the bullit, is the worst fs design in the market.
The bullit's success speaks for itself, as does the heckler's, the Prophet's and Jekyll's, the Joker's and the Distance's, San Andreas', the Fury's, and .... the list of great single pivot bikes goes on.
a bullit (or heckler) doesnt bob excessively when the shock is properly set up. Besides, a freeride bike is not really designed for "zero bob" but for being plush and bomber.
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Post by basti on Jun 30, 2006 14:10:31 GMT 8
a Shawn with a Fox DHX 5.0 will also be a tough contender.... ;D  |
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Post by PraeTorian on Jun 30, 2006 14:36:33 GMT 8
cobym you forgot to mention the orange line of bikes... the 222's and 223's as well as the sub 5 and patriot... they're all single pivots.... mabuhay ang single pivot... |
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Post by the D. on Jun 30, 2006 22:01:11 GMT 8
yup, defenitely bullit is a good buy. it rides well,
has a good resale value and light but tough
enough for hucking.
but if you are really on a budget
get the shawn h3, it's the cheaper version of
the bullit and d@mn tough as well.
hehehe  |
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Post by 'Bee' on Jul 1, 2006 17:25:49 GMT 8
a Shawn with a Fox DHX 5.0 will also be a tough contender.... ;D Basti, With this?  ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by PT on Jul 1, 2006 20:35:57 GMT 8
PT- why ru selling the bullit? im not ..! hehe ..ü balita? |
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Post by CARLOfornicator(censored) on Jul 2, 2006 0:20:25 GMT 8
PT-good thing that your keeping the bullit,daming bullit dito,there all disposing na and waiting for the new one to come out....
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Post by Blister T on Jul 2, 2006 13:39:48 GMT 8
wrong move for them... no more sweet and simple single pivot for 2007... its Bullit VPP na  carlo, get me a bullit! |
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Post by [ eRECTUS ] on Jul 3, 2006 17:45:31 GMT 8
i also disagree with Bullit being the worst FS design..it would not be a 3 time FR frame of the year by MTBA and several reviews.. with technology nowadays the bullit also virtually DOES NOT BOB! with the help of the ever trusted FOX DHX 5.0 |
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