cmtulis
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Post by cmtulis on May 19, 2008 12:16:21 GMT 8
We were riding back from UP, along Commonwealth Ave... We are riding along the sidewalk then I decided... Hmmm... I want to bank my bike on that corner! then woooosh... Slid across the concrete... Lesson:  Don't bank your bike on concrete right after riding across the muddy grass part of the sidewalk... |
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Post by maxbuwaya on May 19, 2008 17:42:28 GMT 8
Use checks as much as possible, bank robbers are ready to kill nowadays for cash!  |
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markdc
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Post by markdc on May 19, 2008 17:48:57 GMT 8
Use checks as much as possible, bank robbers are ready to kill nowadays for cash! Hahaha, I also thought that it was banking of the finance kind. |
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cmtulis
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Post by cmtulis on May 19, 2008 21:29:37 GMT 8
Did I spell banking as terms for bikes incorrectly?  Hehehehe.. ;D |
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Post by maxbuwaya on May 21, 2008 13:43:43 GMT 8
Did I spell banking as terms for bikes incorrectly? Hehehehe.. ;D I think its right. I understand your thread completely. Just trying to be funny hehehehe I think you should lift the front tires first then land the rear tyre first. I dont know if its right, but it looks better with that move. heheheheh |
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Post by Ben Dover on May 21, 2008 14:02:53 GMT 8
what do you guys mean by banking? is this the lean-in or lean-out thing when taking a turn just like those in motorcycling racing?
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Post by maxbuwaya on May 21, 2008 14:18:03 GMT 8
what do you guys mean by banking? is this the lean-in or lean-out thing when taking a turn just like those in motorcycling racing? I guess banking from a gutter/sidewalk towards the road is a bad idea. |
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Post by ronaldarca on May 21, 2008 16:43:27 GMT 8
i actually dont get the picture here, mind explaining it further? banking on concrete hmm... so far as i understand it, you tried to lean while taking a turn around the corner... its not about the grassy part if i may wanna expound it here since there are several factors which might have triggered your "swoosh," i say namely they are: choice of tires (you may have ones which have less grippy sideknobs); concrete conditions (is it slippery, too flat-out or off-cambered); or you could've leaned too sharply. my advice then is to take corners easily... its easier to bank when its a berm or concerte conditions are fair. there's obviously a degree of skill in banking/berming and i might say im still bad at it... which reminds me though, sir Alphabolt, sched those skills clinic uli!  ;D ;D |
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Post by Dragunov on May 21, 2008 22:41:11 GMT 8
choose a bank full of hot tellers hehehe ;D, shift your weight when banking so that you wont lose traction  cant explain how , just experiment ;D ;D |
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Post by Alphabolt on May 21, 2008 23:15:06 GMT 8
i actually dont get the picture here, mind explaining it further? banking on concrete hmm... so far as i understand it, you tried to lean while taking a turn around the corner... its not about the grassy part if i may wanna expound it here since there are several factors which might have triggered your "swoosh," i say namely they are: choice of tires (you may have ones which have less grippy sideknobs); concrete conditions (is it slippery, too flat-out or off-cambered); or you could've leaned too sharply. my advice then is to take corners easily... its easier to bank when its a berm or concerte conditions are fair. there's obviously a degree of skill in banking/berming and i might say im still bad at it... which reminds me though, sir Alphabolt, sched those skills clinic uli! ;D ;D my recommendation is to crouch or unseat during the turn, lean the bike a bit into the turn, maintain the center of gravity and the bodyline (torso perpedicular to the road level)...+ know your tires + tirepressure And know how to brake properly...more front then add some rear taps there ya go but expect spills still k as we do tend to ride hard ...us MTBikers  ;D |
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cmtulis
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Post by cmtulis on May 22, 2008 0:20:01 GMT 8
I'm currently using Da Bomb Dirt Reaper Tires... I was leaning to my left when I was taking the corner, and the bike literally slid off my feet, both of the tires gave out at the same time...  I have done faster ones in the past with lower lean-ins.. Maybe its the small spokes on the tires? Maybe the concrete was a tad too dusty? Maybe my tires was under or over inflated at the time? I couldn't remember because I was more concerned with the people watching my "choreographed" stunt that I did on purpose... hehehe ;D |
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Post by TRIBAL TECHNO on May 22, 2008 9:33:49 GMT 8
i was riding behind cmtulis when it happened, nasty crash, his shoe flew off his foot! hahaha.... about 15mins after his crash, on our way home, his front tire rolled on some dog poo! 5mins after that, his front tire got flat! hahaha.... ;D what a day 4 cmtulis  |
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Post by g.b.b on May 22, 2008 10:58:20 GMT 8
i know what you mean...... been there "been" that hehehehe.....you got to have a good tire.... wtb weirwolf is one...
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Post by arcireyes on May 22, 2008 12:55:43 GMT 8
blame the "choreographer" as he/she did not take into consideration all the other factors in the "choreography" ;D I'm currently using Da Bomb Dirt Reaper Tires... I was leaning to my left when I was taking the corner, and the bike literally slid off my feet, both of the tires gave out at the same time... I have done faster ones in the past with lower lean-ins.. Maybe its the small spokes on the tires? Maybe the concrete was a tad too dusty? Maybe my tires was under or over inflated at the time? I couldn't remember because I was more concerned with the people watching my "choreographed" stunt that I did on purpose... hehehe ;D |
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mrkamot
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Post by mrkamot on May 22, 2008 15:02:25 GMT 8
banking is ok as long as you have the necessary speed and grip to pull it off. if you need traction, try pumping your front end on the apex (to maximize the grip and make the tire's contact patch "bigger") and then once your fork rebounds your out of the turn already
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Post by Ben Dover on May 22, 2008 16:03:24 GMT 8
banking is ok as long as you have the necessary speed and grip to pull it off. if you need traction, try pumping your front end on the apex (to maximize the grip and make the tire's contact patch "bigger") and then once your fork rebounds your out of the turn already i agree... however, if i may add, loading the front wheel is really very counter-intuitive...instinct says you protect your head and face...when you're going downhill and/or leaning hard, executing a tight turn and the thought that "if the front wheel skids, i'm finished" enters your mind and you chickened out a bit, you will automatically pull your head away from the handlebar dragging away your torso from the front and unloading it. sometimes i find myself doing this mistake specially when the road or trail is wet...i guess it takes confidence on your skills and equipment and a lot of practice to do it properly. |
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Post by enzo on May 22, 2008 16:42:25 GMT 8
During turns, we put our pedals/crankarm up at 12 o clock on the trun we are leaning to, and at 6 o clock at the other side. Press or put some pressure/weight on that side. It will help a bit and add traction both to the front and rear wheel.
But the best is still the leaning on the handlebar/pressing thing. It's scary at first. but you will feel the traction big time.
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cmtulis
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Post by cmtulis on May 22, 2008 19:02:06 GMT 8
mrkamotTried what you said.. I guess it's all about the nerves right? I'll just keep on it till I get it.. 
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mrkamot
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Post by mrkamot on May 23, 2008 18:33:23 GMT 8
to tell you the truth i'm still trying to practice it and it is far from fluid  practice practice practice (if i find the time ) |
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