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Post by fattire on Mar 28, 2006 15:22:46 GMT 8
after Bataan?
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Post by mountguitars on Mar 28, 2006 15:55:11 GMT 8
what the heck, I'm in. Should be fun. If we can't finish the required laps, at least we can just get drunk! mwahahahaha way to go marcs. that's the spirit, the alcoholic spirit that is, hehehe ;D
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Post by BrusKO on Mar 30, 2006 8:42:58 GMT 8
i think by now, we should have come up with the teams. april 22 is getting closer and registration is already available.
we need two more riders to make 18 which makes 6 teams. either this, or one backs out or decides to pedal solo.
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Post by fattire on Mar 30, 2006 11:04:35 GMT 8
brus: noted, need to get in touch with Paul
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Post by Superbad on Apr 2, 2006 17:10:33 GMT 8
marcs, janix, and i will form one team!
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Post by xctofi on Apr 4, 2006 10:40:41 GMT 8
alright! everybody needs to teamup asap for this.
We got:
*Team A
Bikedaddy,QT-Kat,Pitbiker
*Team B
marcs, janix and dirk
*Team C
*Team D
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Fill it up folks!
I will be joining for the experience and fun only but will try to push as much as i can just for kicks but generally just to have fun with PinoyMTBiker folks,anybody on the same goal as me? lets team up!
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Post by Freeman on Apr 4, 2006 11:06:47 GMT 8
*Team A
Bikedaddy,QT-Kat,Pitbiker
*Team B
marcs, janix and dirk
*Team C
Freeman
*Team D
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Post by Superbad on Apr 4, 2006 11:44:04 GMT 8
don't be shy
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Post by marcs on Apr 4, 2006 13:33:43 GMT 8
*Team A Bikedaddy,QT-Kat,Pitbiker *Team B marcs, janix and dirk *Team C Freeman *Team D Freeman solo? ;D
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Post by xctofi on Apr 5, 2006 10:38:03 GMT 8
Suggestion!
These guys should form 2 teams. Tolits,Paul,Brusko,Jon,Milo and PasawayL.
for sure they will be part of the top finishers.
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Post by BrusKO on Apr 5, 2006 11:30:04 GMT 8
while i also think that we should have at least two teams with "strong" members, i feel i havent reached that level.
good idea though. para may "pambato" tayo!
i nominate louie, tolits and paul for the first dream team. if louie can't make it, maybe jay can fill in.
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Post by MrsM on Apr 5, 2006 11:47:43 GMT 8
i nominate louie, tolits and paul for the first dream team. if louie can't make it, maybe jay can fill in. I second the motion
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Post by fattire on Apr 5, 2006 12:15:42 GMT 8
good suggestion from tofi, the rest of us can be "peloton" and some can be "lead pack"
i have polled some riders here and basically asked them to rate those that are in the list interested to join the race, this will more or less guide us in the grouping
sorry if i will not post the result of the rating, i am giving it to MrsMcvarki and this information will be shared to those who will join the ride in La Mesa Dam ride on April 8, Saturday
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Post by marcs on Apr 5, 2006 12:37:32 GMT 8
drafting season . . .
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Post by Superbad on Apr 5, 2006 12:39:40 GMT 8
draft? for sure marcs and i won't be lottery picks. i'm not even sure i'll be drafted kung ganun. hahahaha
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Post by marcs on Apr 5, 2006 13:23:58 GMT 8
ah basta, team pornstar tayo! mwahahahaha janix, start training!
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Post by Ben Dover on Apr 5, 2006 13:35:16 GMT 8
i'm for whatever is for the good of PinoyMTBiker team/s...personally i look at PinoyMTBiker as just one team with mini/sub teams under it...knowing most of you guys, i have no doubt in my mind that everyone will be giving his/her best...happy to be taking my beauty nap without getting worried that we will be left behind by other teams hehehe! actually it's me who is worried that i would not be able to match your determination...that said, i'm leaving my team assignment completely to 'congress's decision as per original post by milo. btw, i believe paul and jay are the only ones who have experience in 24 hr enduro race...we will be expecting words of wisdom from you guys...
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Post by fullspeed on Apr 5, 2006 14:07:32 GMT 8
Is there a newbie category? I would like to join for the experience but worried that I might just become a liability to the team
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Post by xctofi on Apr 5, 2006 14:20:14 GMT 8
Is there a newbie category? I would like to join for the experience but worried that I might just become a liability to the team hey sir marcial,wanna team up, our team will be be team Liability ;D im not at my best (if i ever was) but i'd like to join just to experience it and have fun.we just need another liability to complete the team ;D ;D
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Post by fullspeed on Apr 5, 2006 14:30:48 GMT 8
xctofi - sir Tofi I think you are a strong rider! Dyahe yata but it would be an honor I will do my best to prepare. I will start training in the mountainous regions of Fort Bonifacio and the long and gruelling roads of Amari and CCP complex
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Post by marcs on Apr 5, 2006 14:40:24 GMT 8
Guys, if you don't have yet, here are the rules of the race.
RACE DETAILS
Laps are approximately 7 km, consisting of both single and double track designed to accommodate all levels of riders. A Le mans style start will line racers up at the start without their bikes. When the gun goes off, racers run a pre-set course (approx. 200 meters) which brings them back to find their bikes and off onto the course. Each starting racer must be logged in prior to the start of the race and have his/her bike pre-positioned in the bike rack area. What to Bring
1. Bikes
Things will break! Plan ahead and bring what you need for repairs. • Bring your own mountain bike • Approved lighting system for night riding • Tons of extra batteries • Hydration pack and or water bottle(s) • Tires and tubes • Spare chain(s) • Bike tools • lubricants • Solo riders may want to consider using 2 bikes • Camping Gear • Toilet Paper (you can never have enough TP) • Garbage bags • Warm clothes for the early morning hours.
2. Food and Fuel
• Plan your meals ahead of time. There will be no food onsite if you wish to purchase it and there are local restaurants and grocery stores. • You will need normal foods as well. Bring lots of food. You will be hungry. You cannot survive on energy bars and gels alone. • Bring foods that you easily digest such as pancakes, pasta, bagels, bananas, etc. You know best what your body can digest easily. • Bring lots of water • Firewood is not available for collection in the forest. Bring your own fuel.
3. Optional Equipment
• Lantern • Stove and cookset • Blanket or Sleeping bag Rules and Regulations
• NOTE: Teams or individuals finish placing is dependent on the number of laps you complete at the end of 24 hours, no matter when you completed your last lap. We will not make you do an extra lap just so that you cross the finish line between noon and 1:00pm on Sunday. If you decide that you have raced enough laps at, for example, 6:00am, then that will be the number of laps considered when placing solo riders/teams at the end of 24 hours.
• Mandatory pre-race meeting Sat. at 10:00am at the La Mesa Dam Forest Reserve for all Captains and Solo Racers (all racers are encouraged to attend). • Each team must designate a Captain to handle all official matters including the pre-race meeting, picking up registration packets, making sure all team members have completed their appropriate paperwork and signed waivers, etc. • Each team member must sign a waiver. Race numbers will not be given out for teams until all team members have signed a waiver. A waiver is available online and may be downloaded. If a team member cannot make registration then the team captain may turn in a signed waiver along with a copy of that team member’s authorization letter. • No refunds for any reason at any time. Solo riders may transfer their entry to another solo rider prior to 30 days before the event. All team members must be listed on the entry form. If a member of a team drops out then another athlete may be substituted. You must notify the organizers of the substitution and the substitute must sign a waiver. Substitutions made before April 20 will be made free of charge. After April 20, a P200.00 late fee will be assessed. • Waiting riders must always check in with the transition official prior to starting their lap. Solo riders must check in with the transition official each time they finish a lap and before they begin their next lap. • Only team members and race officials are allowed in the transition area. Team I.D. number must be worn at all times when accessing the transitioned areas. • Dismount Area: Just prior to entering the Timing Tent you will see a designated Dismount Area. Riders finishing a lap must dismount completely in that area before entering the Timing Tent. This is much safer for everyone. Riders who do not completely dismount will receive a warning. Second offense, the lap is not counted. Riding on one pedal will also count as a penalty. Please dismount and walk or run across the timing mats to the registrar. Bikes must be dismounted and walked through the transition area. • Timing will be done manually by registrar officials. We will be posting a lot of registrar officials in the transition area so as to prevent confusion in the counting of the racers laps. • Once on the course, a rider must complete his or her lap. Substitutions can only be made at the check-in station. • Minimum Lap Requirements: Each racer on a team is required to complete a minimum number of laps during the 24-hour period. For example: Each member on a Men's Team is required to complete 12 laps. If a team does not complete the minimum laps for each of its teammates then the team will be listed as DNF (Did Not Finish). See next rule-Scratching a Rider- for other options • Scratching a Rider: In the event that a team loses one of its teammates due to illness, injury or exhaustion, that team may elect to “scratch” that rider from the team and continue to compete. However, the team will be penalized a lap for every lap that the teammate did not complete in the minimum lap requirement. For example, if a rider were scratched after completing one lap then the penalty for his or her team would be 11 laps nullified. The team captain or co-captain must notify the registrar as to which teammate is scratched. Once taken off the team, a racer may not reenter the race. If the team loses a second teammate then that team is DNF. • Each team member and solo rider must complete a minimum of 12 laps. Teams will be penalized a lap for each lap not completed by each member. • If a team member cannot complete his/her lap, the team has the option of starting the lap over with a new rider. They will, however, lose the distance and time of the incomplete lap. The replacement racer must check-in with the transition official prior to beginning the lap. • A racer may ride consecutive laps, but must log out at the Checking in station after each lap in order to log-in for the next lap. If a racer is staying in for additional laps, the racer must log-out from the first lap by telling the registrar that they are in and going back out. The registrar will then record the log in time and the log out time (which is the log in time). The racer can then begin his or her additional lap. If a racer does not follow this procedure on each lap, only one lap will be counted. • No reverse riding allowed on the course! • Teammates may cannibalize each other's bikes and swap if necessary. Riders may accept mechanical support on the course by any registered racer, but support crews can help only in the transition area or at a campsite.
• Technical or Mechanical support on course may only be supplied by registered racers. Supporting racers must access the course under their own power (i.e. foot travel or on bike) and that access can only be achieved by going in the direction of the course. Shortcutting the course is not allowed. Supporting racers should stay clear of all competing racers. Supporting racers may take any equipment or tools with them; they may even swap bikes with a teammate. Support can be provided by any registered racer, on any team, to any registered racer on any team. • Riders may accept food and water from anyone on the course; however racers must stay clear of course when feeding. Penalties given for littering on course!! • We suggest that each team & solo rider have a support crew of at least 1 or 2 persons who are not racing to assist with various jobs such as organizing transitions, cooking, assisting with mechanical problems. And counter checking the teams number of laps • Toilets are available throughout the weekend. Please use the toilets & not the woods. • You will need all of your own camping supplies. • All riders beginning a lap between 6:00pm and 6:00am will be required to have a primary and a secondary light source and a blinker or tail light. The primary light source must be at least 4 watts and secured to your bike or helmet. The secondary light source may be a flashlight, penlight or similar lighting system. The on & off times for lights are subject to Race director’s discretion. Weather will play a significant role in this determination. Announcements will be made of exact times. • Racers entering the course between 6:00pm Saturday and 6:00am Sunday must show that both the primary and secondary light sources are in good working order and are functioning. If we determine that your lighting system is not acceptable you will not be allowed on course. After 7:00pm on Saturday, riders are required to ride with the lights burning. Riding with lights out to save batteries is both dangerous and against the rules. Lights must remain on when entering or leaving the scoring tent. After 6:00am on Sunday, lights may be turned off and dismounted • It is against the rules for riders to ride with their lights out to save batteries. Riders violating this rule will have their current lap nullified. • Come prepared with completely charged, extra batteries so you can be completely self-sufficient for 24 hours. Taking someone else's battery will be grounds for disqualification of the entire team. • Verifying the Log Sheet: Laps will be compiled and recorded for each racer and listed on the bottom of each teams’ log sheet. It’s the team’s responsibility to verify that each rider is logged-in and logged-out correctly. Please be patient and courteous while verifying information with your registrar. A good habit is to state your number first, then your name, to confirm that your registrar is logging you in correctly. • All local city ordinances and park rules will be in effect, including: • No firearms • No illegal drugs • No dogs allowed • No camp fire • No Littering • Additional Rules and regulations: • Only riders officially entered in the event or designated as "Official Course Marshalls" may ride on the designated racecourse. • Each rider while racing must wear his/her race number and numberplate. • Wearing a buckled helmet is mandatory anytime you are on your bike on the property (not just when you are racing)! • All captains must attend the pre-race meeting. • Ignorance of any of these rules is not an excuse. • Foul riding, unsportsmanlike behavior, or the use of profane or abusive language, are grounds for warning, and/or disqualification of a team or solo rider. • Short cutting the course can be grounds for automatic disqualification of the entire team or solo rider. If a racer makes a mistake, and he/she reports it to the officials before it is discovered, a lap adjustment will be made rather than a DQ. • Racers riding bicycles have the right of way over racers pushing bicycles. When practical, racers pushing should stay on the least rideable portion of the path when being passed. Riders should say pleasantly, "Track, on your left" or “Track, on your right" when passing other riders. • All protests must be made by team captains to an official. Protests may be made during the event and up to 15 minutes after the final results are posted. All protests must be made in a respectful manner to an official. Officials will have the final decision on all protests. • Safety is a priority. If you come across an injured rider or a potentially unsafe situation, you are encouraged to stop and assist. • The Head Official shall have final say in all disputes or questions about rules. • The Race Directors will be given the final decision regarding any occurrence at the event including those not addressed in these rules.
Finish
• The race will end at 12 noon on Sunday for all race groups. Each team must have a rider LOGGED IN and ON COURSE at 12:00 noon on Sunday. • Teams and solo riders may stop at any time. The time and laps completed will be recorded and scored appropriately. • Teams and solo riders finishing a lap before 12 noon may still start another lap, as long as they start before 24:00:00 on the official race clock. This lap will count with respect to time and laps completed. • The time and number of laps completed by each team or solo will determine their finishing order. • In case of a tie in laps, the team or solo rider who finishes their last lap first will beat those who finish behind them (Team that has completed 28 laps with a finish time of 12:31pm would beat a team that completed 28 laps, finishing at 12:47pm. And of course, a team that completed 29 laps, finishing at 12:50pm would beat them both.) • Also, if a team member did not meet his or her lap requirements, then that team is also listed as DNF. • A lap is officially finished when the rider passes the line indicating the Checkpoint. • The race will officially end at 1:00PM Sunday. If your last rider is not logged off by then the lap will not count. • The Final Rule: Follow the spirit of the event. This event is about endurance, camaraderie, competition, sportsmanship, skill, desire, confidence, mental & physical conditioning and teamwork. Most importantly it is about FUN! Be Prepared! We encourage all of you to build a strong team of riders and support people for the weekend. Do your research and show up ready to enjoy the weekend. Our group is always ready to help. We want you to walk (or crawl) away from this event feeling as good as we do when it's over. To ensure a safe event we take these rules very seriously. Rules are subject to change. Thumbie O. Remigio Race Director Adventure Events Management and Services (AEMS)
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Post by mountguitars on Apr 5, 2006 17:23:38 GMT 8
thanks for the info marcs. it definitely answered most of my questions. though i didn't read all of it, i just wanted to know if its ok to use more than one bike? how about wheel sets or tires? or what parts can we bring in multiples? how many? thanks.
if i were to make a dream team that would be paul, jay and jimmy. these guys have joined multi day adventure races and definitely the experience would come in handy. paul claims that jimmy is a better pedaller. if that's the case, hands down these 3 could win the 24 hr race. if any one of 'em isn't available, tolits is my next bet to fill in the void.
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Post by Superbad on Apr 5, 2006 18:14:16 GMT 8
ah basta, team pornstar tayo! mwahahahaha janix, start training! Hahaha! I like the name! team Pornstar. Tirahin na natin sierra madre!
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Post by marcs on Apr 5, 2006 19:11:58 GMT 8
thanks for the info marcs. it definitely answered most of my questions. though i didn't read all of it, i just wanted to know if its ok to use more than one bike? how about wheel sets or tires? or what parts can we bring in multiples? how many? thanks. if i were to make a dream team that would be paul, jay and jimmy. these guys have joined multi day adventure races and definitely the experience would come in handy. paul claims that jimmy is a better pedaller. if that's the case, hands down these 3 could win the 24 hr race. if any one of 'em isn't available, tolits is my next bet to fill in the void. Yup you can bring in as much supplies as you want I think. But if you need help while riding the course, a teammate must be the one to bring you the things you need. "Technical or Mechanical support on course may only be supplied by registered racers. Supporting racers must access the course under their own power (i.e. foot travel or on bike) and that access can only be achieved by going in the direction of the course. Shortcutting the course is not allowed. Supporting racers should stay clear of all competing racers. Supporting racers may take any equipment or tools with them; they may even swap bikes with a teammate. Support can be provided by any registered racer, on any team, to any registered racer on any team.' -- means we can all help each other in PinoyMTBiker! As for the dream team, yeah, I say they form that team and win it!!!
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Post by janix on Apr 5, 2006 19:42:26 GMT 8
wow... winnnn....
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Post by Onie on Apr 5, 2006 19:53:55 GMT 8
Just adding up to the commotions here! Go Pornstars!!! Yeba!!! ;D Make go0d, Guys!
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Post by jr on Apr 6, 2006 1:50:15 GMT 8
Guys, if you don't have yet, here are the rules of the race. 2. Food and Fuel •Plan your meals ahead of time. There will be no food onsite if you wish to purchase it and there are local restaurants and grocery stores. • .. is this true. This is a 24 hours race you should be able to bring your own food in the area at least at your tent. Maybe I miss interpreted. Needed for the 24 race. Eat lots of CARBO.. Lots of bread (wheat) Peanut butter Pasta Boiled Potato with salt Sport drinks extra jersey blanket 2 way radio (very important) just in case a team in trouble. batteries Make sure to eat/drink just after your runs. The strongest guy in the group may run twice as soon as he doesnt burn out. Again good luck. Dont forget the pics.
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Post by BrusKO on Apr 6, 2006 12:32:06 GMT 8
SUPPORT GROUP
any riders want to volunteer as part of the support group for the teams? there are about 5 teams. will one support person do per team? if so, then we'll need 5 volunteers with their rigs.
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Post by mountguitars on Apr 6, 2006 15:22:11 GMT 8
just got word that paul's former team mates (jay & jimmy) decided to make a team of their own and try to beat paul, hehe. so i guess its up to paul, tolits and another halimaw to form the dream team.
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Post by milo on Apr 6, 2006 20:16:25 GMT 8
Jon, Paul, Tolits and Brusko can be a team to beat...
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