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Post by Scout on Aug 24, 2006 16:27:04 GMT 8
Hi, This topic may have been covered in other threads but I wasn’t able to search for them, but this is just to share with you some facts which I found interesting… Due a biking mishap last August 21, I am nursing a few “road rashes” which prompted me to do a little Internet research on its treatment. Check the following web sites: sportsmedicine.about.com/cs/injuries/a/abrasions.htm and It seems that the use of antiseptic wash such as hydrogen peroxide or povidone-iodine (betadine) can cause harm to the tissue and prolong the healing. What’s suggested is to use a wound cleanser or 0.9% sodium chloride solution – is this dextrose?) to irrigate/clean the wound and use hydrocolloidal dressings. These dressings are water-proof for prolonged use (no need to change dressing) but keeps the wound moist which is a good healing environment. The thing is, I haven’t seen any hydrocolloidal dressings available in the local drug stores. I am not saying that the conventional way of treatment doesn’t work (since I can't find the items metioned in the articles locally, I have to choice but to go for the traditional method); just that there is an alternative, and perhaps better, treatment. Ride safe everyone
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Post by woofers on Aug 24, 2006 17:25:03 GMT 8
What’s suggested is to use a wound cleanser or 0.9% sodium chloride solution – is this dextrose?) Sodium chloride is salt. You definitely don't want to use dextrose, as it has sugars that will nourish bacteria. You can buy 3M Tegaderm from Mercury Drug outlets. They're in the first aid section.
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Post by Scout on Aug 24, 2006 20:25:09 GMT 8
Thanks woofers. There is actually "0.9% Sodium Chloride" solution available in Mercury Drug. According to the Formulation, it just contains Sodium Chloride. The container is for I.V. nga and the purpose is for "replacement or maintenance of fluid and electrolytes." I would think this solution only contains salt nga; kinda like Gatorade contains salt to hydrate. 3M Tegaderm is available in Mercury Drug. I actually bought a pack but I think this dressing is used in conjuction with a "hydrogel" it quicken the healing process. Besides, I am unable to use Tegaderm because the size the Mercury sells is too small for the wounds that I got - ouch . So for now, this just goes into my 1st aid kit.
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Post by radical1962 on Aug 24, 2006 21:32:32 GMT 8
You can actually put one tegaderm on top of the other to cover up the wound. It works, tried it already. And I didn't put anything on the wound. Just clean it with betadine and water then put on the tegaderm...
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Post by woofers on Aug 25, 2006 10:27:42 GMT 8
I've also used tegaderm. Worked as advertised, but the price makes me think twice about using it again. Still, I have a pack handy in my first aid kit.
I think ointments like nitrofurazone and terramycin would help cut down on skin infections. Big doses of vitamin C and E for a couple of weeks will help the healing process as well.
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Post by Julio on Aug 25, 2006 11:59:56 GMT 8
How does vitamin C help?
Anyway, i just learned vitamin C absorption thru artificial sources is so small it's just like wasting your money. Something like only 1% gets absorbed by the body if you take vitamin C supplements (I'll post the source/article when i get hold of it). It would be better to spend your money on fruits and juices that contain this vitamin.
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Post by woofers on Aug 25, 2006 13:38:45 GMT 8
"Vitamin C has been studied for many years. It participates in numerous biochemical reactions, suggesting that vitamin C is important for every body process from bone formation to scar tissue repair. " www.exrx.net/Nutrition/Antioxidants/VitaminC.htmlI've seen those articles, and the counter-articles to refute them (listed below). More importantly, my personal experience shows that I am less prone to get sick and am less stressed when I take my vitamins. I'm all for fruits and veggies. I drink fruit smoothies all the time (from the shop across the street). But vitamin C supplements are SO CHEAP! These days, a month's supply of vitamin C supplements are cheaper than a week's supply of bananas, oranges, and strawberries. www.doctoryourself.com/c_roberts.htmlwww.garynull.com/documents/vitaminc.htmwww.orthomed.com/klenner.htm
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Post by Julio on Aug 25, 2006 16:37:04 GMT 8
Oh okay... Since I'm taking your word for it na Vitamin C is good for the healing process, I think it would be better if you just take smallest dosage of it, not big doses since not the whole dose gets absorbed anyway. I think there's a limit to what the body absorbs through supplements so taking a 1000 mg dose compared to a 100 mg dose would yield the same results.
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Post by Dragunov on Aug 25, 2006 20:16:09 GMT 8
i put alchohol immediately if possible its not for the faint of hearts, its really gonna hurt but it will dry up quickly which is what we want the wound to be when where on the trails, i dont recommend it but it works for me
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Post by Scout on Aug 26, 2006 9:12:30 GMT 8
i put alchohol immediately if possible its not for the faint of hearts, its really gonna hurt but it will dry up quickly which is what we want the wound to be when where on the trails, i dont recommend it but it works for me You said it... I did this as well right after my crash but it was bearable. I guess everything was hurting so much that I felt numb. When I tried cleaning my wounds again at home and tried an alcohol spray, I could hardly move from the pain from the 1st squirt and I couldn't continue with it. I think betadine would be better and after talking to nurses about cleaning and dressing the wound, they advised not to use alcohol. So I would suggest just use alcohol on your hands before you tend to your wounds and just use betadine to clean your wounds as alcohol would do more damage to your tissues I think.
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Post by Dragunov on Aug 26, 2006 10:10:44 GMT 8
oh i see! then i'll always bring betadine with me to the trails or anywhere i bike
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