what are the "grey" areas you could be in the wrong? [in terms being a victim of paninikil]
Sec. 5. Extent of Coverage. — (a) The operation of a mobile communications device is not considered to be distracted driving if done using the aid of a hands-free function or similar device such as, but not hmited to, a speaker phone, earphones and microphones or other similar devices which allow a person to make and receive calls without having to hold the mobile communications device: Provided, That the placement of the mobile communications device or the hands-free device does not interfere with the line of sight of the driver.
(b) Wheeled agricultural machineries such as tractors and construction equipment such as graders, rollers, backhoes, pay loaders, cranes, bulldozers, mobile concrete mixers and the like, and other forms of conveyances such as bicycles, pedicabs, habal-habal , trolleys, “kuhgligs”, wagons, carriages, carts, sledges, chariots or the like, whether animal or human-powered, are covered by the provisions of this Act as long as the same are operated or driven in public thoroughfares, highways or streets or under circumstances where pubhc safety is under consideration.
Last Edit: May 17, 2017 0:39:38 GMT 8 by xtrshadow
most posts i've read says that it's just another money making scheme. discipline is all that's needed to curb down fidgeting your mobile device while driving. i don't think there's time to look or touch our mobile device if the road is clear. but if you're stuck in traffic for 15 minutes...heck, you'd pretty much have more than enough time to check the mobile device.
as for bikes, 8 fingers on the handlebar, 2 on the brake levers, probably a finger or two if and when shifting. you'll just be able to look at your phone and not even touch it unless you stopped riding.
i do understand the argument when it comes to motor vehicles...im even thinking saan i re relocate ng mga uber or grab drivers mga sat nav nila as surely you cant relocate those devices on areas where in mawawala "line of site " mo sa road horizon by "looking down" below the dashboard.
are you allowed to relocate those satnavs on the side of the windscreen
as for bikes, which is the reason why i wrote this thread..if them responsible authorities see me with my garmin gps, action cam [ricoh wg m2] mounted on the handle bar...even all my fingers are holding the the grips and brake level...
what are the chances these people will flag me down and would say " ser, pinara ka namin kasi naka tingin ka dyan sa gadget mo.. lol "
would they even stop me if i wear google glass as surely this is the closest "dashboard" description for bikes in relation to cars.
any chance i can invest on "skates on rails" ? naka limutan nilang ilagay sa batas lol
all the gadgets can be attached hehehe
Last Edit: May 17, 2017 13:57:02 GMT 8 by xtrshadow
This is the link to the clarification that top gear made.
Here is is a snippet from the article
"Okay, so the first part is pretty clear. The question is, where can you place your dashcam or your phone mount if you're using Waze? We recently attended a briefing held by the Department of Transportation (DOTr) regarding the implementation of the new law. According to officials, line of sight includes your entire windshield and on top of your dashboard, except for the area behind the rear-view mirror. Officials pointed out that behind the rear-view is where you can place your dashcam, as you don't need to look at it while driving.
As for phone mounts, these can be placed either behind (but not on) your steering wheel on the instrument panel, or on the center of your dashboard where the center air-con vents normally sit. The official papers state,"Gadgets with [navigation] applications may be installed in areas that will not obstruct the driver's view."
Take note, however, that you can't take your hands off the wheel to operate these devices. Either set your app before you take off, or pull over in a safe area (i.e. not obstructing traffic) to adjust its settings mid-journey.
"The idea is 'wag mo sana gamitin ('yung mobile device), pero kapag gagamitin mo, hands-free. The idea is really, dapat hands-free. So bawal mag text, bawal gamitin yung cellphone, bawal mag pindot-pindot, hands-free," DOTr assistant secretary Mark Richmund de Leon told TGP."
I am for this. I almost got rear ended twice by inconsiderate drivers who were texting while driving. Yes they were texting while their cars were moving. People also slow down while texting but this is really wrong as it puts other people in danger. I also see a lot of people holding back traffic because they were looking at their phone so intently. There are so many people that do this. I may seem harmless but it is really not.
I have also observed motorcyclists texting while riding.
What I do is set everything up before I drive, Waze destination and music playlist. After waze sets the path, I usually review it before driving off so I can just follow the voice navigation cues. The phone will usually link via bluetooth to the car stereo. If there is no bluetooth connection, I just set the phone speaker a little louder for Waze.
My phone is located below the windshield, beside my gear shift in fact but I don't usually loose signal. The primary reason drivers loose signal is GPS interference coming from noisy radio frequency environments like areas with multiple cell sites and repeaters, or areas with may buildings that block gps signals. The other reason is the quality of phone hardware.
As for bikes, if you look at the rules, it says line of sight. Putting stuff on the handlebars will not interfere with your line of sight.
Actually, I wished the authorities would be more strict and apprehend the errant drivers.
Many times, you see all kinds of drivers running counterflow, blocking traffic because they want to turn left, parking at the side of the road and taking up one lane in the process, puvs stopping where they shouldn't and our favorite, drivers not yielding right of way to pedestrians and bike commuters. We complain about traffic but a lot of us contribute to traffic.
Anyway back on topic, this law like any has gray areas and we can be taken advantage of. But it is also up to us to make sure that doesn't happen.
stealthwanderer: Ayan yung matagal ko na gusto itanong: 1 Hour ride, mabasa ng ulan o' mabasa ng pawis sa loob ng kapote. Baka kasi ako lang nageenjoy sa ulan kasi may paliguan pagdating sa trabaho, hahah.
Aug 9, 2019 11:35:30 GMT 8
anthrax76: sa ngayon, mag jacket lang ako kapag umuulan at mahangin. kasi masakit sa balat ang matulin na ulan tsaka malakas makababa ng core temperature ang wind chill.
Aug 10, 2019 22:17:32 GMT 8
anthrax76: pero kung normal na ulan, 'di naman mahangin, hanggang mabasa na lang ako ng ulan okey lang. although i minimize kung gano katagal ako exposed. anything more than an hour, medyo delikado.
Aug 10, 2019 22:21:04 GMT 8
konablack: gamit ko two-piece raincoat, dehins lang sya ideal kung may backpack ka
Aug 13, 2019 7:39:14 GMT 8
oniechan: altered poncho..dahil ng backpack..bawas ng haba sa likod at sa side..mas malamig compared sa 2-pc na raincoat....
Aug 13, 2019 11:27:45 GMT 8
anthrax76: yung poncho, ginagamit ko lang sa climb or kapag naglalakad. feeling ko saranggola ako kapag naka bike eh, ha ha.
Aug 15, 2019 23:44:25 GMT 8
anthrax76: ang weird kagabi, padyak ako pero kahit may headwind at crosswind, swabe lang. parang tailwind yung pakiramdam.
Aug 24, 2019 4:32:23 GMT 8
lefty: Na experience nyo na sir yung pagbaba mo ng mabilis sa tulay biglang may malakas na crosswind tapos umangat yung front wheel? Nangyari na sa kin once pagbaba ko ng Southpeak. Mga March yun last year, mahangin talaga around that time last year.
Aug 24, 2019 8:50:45 GMT 8
lefty: Umangat ng konti na parang tinulak ng konti pa-side. Buti na control ko at di ako sumemplang. Nangyayari ba talaga ito normally? First time ko naka-experience nun.
Aug 24, 2019 8:56:30 GMT 8
anthrax76: hmm...never pa naman umangat yung harap na gulong ko. i get pushed downwind pero never pa umangat.
Aug 24, 2019 21:10:36 GMT 8
corollafreak: wassup!!! long time no hear dito =D
Aug 27, 2019 15:06:23 GMT 8
stealthwanderer: Hello! Meron bang pumapasok around Greenhills? If so, saan kayo nagpapark ng bike?
Aug 27, 2019 17:54:27 GMT 8
anthrax76: @cf!!! uy kumusta na?
Aug 28, 2019 0:01:25 GMT 8
anthrax76: stealthwanderer, dati may parking ang bikes dun from firefly brigade, sa parking sa harap. pero ginawa na yata yun so dehins ko alam kung saan nalipat. try ko magtanong minsan kapag napasyal ako.
Aug 28, 2019 0:02:48 GMT 8
konablack: wala na yung parking spot ng firefly brigade doon
Sept 4, 2019 9:26:36 GMT 8