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Post by xtrshadow on May 17, 2017 0:32:35 GMT 8
right,, now its a law and "bikes" are included
questions:
what are the "grey" areas you could be in the wrong? [in terms being a victim of paninikil]
Sec. 5. Extent of Coverage. — (a) The operation of a mobile communications device is not considered to be distracted driving if done using the aid of a hands-free function or similar device such as, but not hmited to, a speaker phone, earphones and microphones or other similar devices which allow a person to make and receive calls without having to hold the mobile communications device: Provided, That the placement of the mobile communications device or the hands-free device does not interfere with the line of sight of the driver.
(b) Wheeled agricultural machineries such as tractors and construction equipment such as graders, rollers, backhoes, pay loaders, cranes, bulldozers, mobile concrete mixers and the like, and other forms of conveyances such as bicycles, pedicabs, habal-habal , trolleys, “kuhgligs”, wagons, carriages, carts, sledges, chariots or the like, whether animal or human-powered, are covered by the provisions of this Act as long as the same are operated or driven in public thoroughfares, highways or streets or under circumstances where pubhc safety is under consideration.
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Post by anthrax76 on May 17, 2017 9:00:16 GMT 8
most posts i've read says that it's just another money making scheme. discipline is all that's needed to curb down fidgeting your mobile device while driving. i don't think there's time to look or touch our mobile device if the road is clear. but if you're stuck in traffic for 15 minutes...heck, you'd pretty much have more than enough time to check the mobile device.
as for bikes, 8 fingers on the handlebar, 2 on the brake levers, probably a finger or two if and when shifting. you'll just be able to look at your phone and not even touch it unless you stopped riding.
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Post by anthrax76 on May 17, 2017 15:13:46 GMT 8
at the end of the day, it kinda sucks that a law still needs to be made for simple self discipline.
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Post by simplej0ys on May 17, 2017 15:32:06 GMT 8
in NZ, operating your phone/gadget while driving (even stopped) will get you penalized. You have to park on the side, only then you can twiddle with your gadgets.
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Post by esulit on May 17, 2017 15:59:43 GMT 8
www.topgear.com.ph/news/motoring-news/distracted-driving-sight-a00187-20170517This is the link to the clarification that top gear made. Here is is a snippet from the article "Okay, so the first part is pretty clear. The question is, where can you place your dashcam or your phone mount if you're using Waze? We recently attended a briefing held by the Department of Transportation (DOTr) regarding the implementation of the new law. According to officials, line of sight includes your entire windshield and on top of your dashboard, except for the area behind the rear-view mirror. Officials pointed out that behind the rear-view is where you can place your dashcam, as you don't need to look at it while driving. As for phone mounts, these can be placed either behind (but not on) your steering wheel on the instrument panel, or on the center of your dashboard where the center air-con vents normally sit. The official papers state,"Gadgets with [navigation] applications may be installed in areas that will not obstruct the driver's view." Take note, however, that you can't take your hands off the wheel to operate these devices. Either set your app before you take off, or pull over in a safe area (i.e. not obstructing traffic) to adjust its settings mid-journey. "The idea is 'wag mo sana gamitin ('yung mobile device), pero kapag gagamitin mo, hands-free. The idea is really, dapat hands-free. So bawal mag text, bawal gamitin yung cellphone, bawal mag pindot-pindot, hands-free," DOTr assistant secretary Mark Richmund de Leon told TGP."I am for this. I almost got rear ended twice by inconsiderate drivers who were texting while driving. Yes they were texting while their cars were moving. People also slow down while texting but this is really wrong as it puts other people in danger. I also see a lot of people holding back traffic because they were looking at their phone so intently. There are so many people that do this. I may seem harmless but it is really not. I have also observed motorcyclists texting while riding. What I do is set everything up before I drive, Waze destination and music playlist. After waze sets the path, I usually review it before driving off so I can just follow the voice navigation cues. The phone will usually link via bluetooth to the car stereo. If there is no bluetooth connection, I just set the phone speaker a little louder for Waze. My phone is located below the windshield, beside my gear shift in fact but I don't usually loose signal. The primary reason drivers loose signal is GPS interference coming from noisy radio frequency environments like areas with multiple cell sites and repeaters, or areas with may buildings that block gps signals. The other reason is the quality of phone hardware. As for bikes, if you look at the rules, it says line of sight. Putting stuff on the handlebars will not interfere with your line of sight.
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Post by icemann77 on May 17, 2017 17:26:28 GMT 8
Thanks for the clarification sir. sana ma implement ng maayos eto at wag magpa lagay ang pulis. at dehins rin sana maging kotong generator eto. Sumunod na lang tayong lahat sa batas.
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Post by simplej0ys on May 17, 2017 18:43:42 GMT 8
not being pessimistic here but, since when did a law, any law hasn't been kotong-ized? Mga kotong ang dapat na tinutumba ni DU30!
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Post by esulit on May 17, 2017 21:00:49 GMT 8
Actually, I wished the authorities would be more strict and apprehend the errant drivers.
Many times, you see all kinds of drivers running counterflow, blocking traffic because they want to turn left, parking at the side of the road and taking up one lane in the process, puvs stopping where they shouldn't and our favorite, drivers not yielding right of way to pedestrians and bike commuters. We complain about traffic but a lot of us contribute to traffic.
Anyway back on topic, this law like any has gray areas and we can be taken advantage of. But it is also up to us to make sure that doesn't happen.
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Post by andreus92 on May 19, 2017 0:10:14 GMT 8
I bike along friendship highway while commuting to work in angeles city.
Its normal for me to go hands free and pull my phone out to text of the road is straight and clear.
If I get caught do I get a verbal warning??
If I get caught again since I do not have any liscense they can suspend will they confiscate my bike?? If so will I be able to take it back?
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Post by anthrax76 on May 19, 2017 7:05:37 GMT 8
i don't think they will confiscate your bike. but they can fine you.
besides, i think it's easier for us cyclists to just go to the side of the road and stop then text vs. 4 wheeled vehicles.
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Post by konablack on May 19, 2017 7:32:34 GMT 8
i guess they will fine you when they see you using gadgets while you're on the road it is still unclear for most peeps right now
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Post by mikkolopez on Aug 25, 2017 12:24:55 GMT 8
I just stop riding first to look at my phone, I am not skilled enough to ride and fidget with my phone at same time.
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