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Post by esulit on May 13, 2017 20:30:46 GMT 8
That's a tough one. I have done a lot of research on a 24" full suspension bike for my boy as he is upgrading from his 20" hardtail. I haven't ever come across a 24" full suspension fatbike--even in other countries. There is a 24" hardtail fat bike in ROX (I forgot the brand). Specialized has the 24" Riprock which has a 2.8" width wheel but it's a hardtail and out of stock at Dan's. Also, If ever there was one it would not have a decent weight. And it would not be available locally. You would have to import one (that's what I had to do). Just to give you an idea, one of the most popular full suspension 24" bikes is the Commencal Supreme 24. That's about USD2,300 and weights close to 30 lbs.
Who is it for and how tall?
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Post by esulit on May 14, 2017 8:54:35 GMT 8
Okay thanks. This clarifies it a lot. If you really want a full-suspension fat bike for women. This is going to be super hard to find. I don't think there are even suppliers here or abroad that have this. Your closest options would be Trek or Specialized. For example, The 2017 Trek fuel EX for women is 27.5+ compatible but the stand over height for the XS is about 735mm which may be too tall for the person who is 4'11" but okay for the person who is 5'3". If it were up to me, I would just go for the Liv Pique 3. Liv is Giant's women specific brand. The Pique 3 is a 27.5" full-suspension bike with regular tires. It has a standover height of 657mm which may be more suited for your daughter and wife. It is available at Lifecycles for 95,000 (just check their FB page).
So compared to a 24" bike, the 27.5 in general will be more stable and be able to roll over obstacles easier. More so with the 27.5+ which will have 3.0" wheels.
It is really best if you can head over to their stores and try out or demo the bike.
FYR. The Commencal Supreme 24 has a standover height of about 670mm. And the Lil' Shredder Phenom 24" I just bought for my son has a standover height of 630mm. The commencal is about 30lbs and the lil shredder is about 25 lbs. The reason I said the weight won't be decent is because, kids full suspension bikes are all made of aluminium or some alloy. There are no carbon fiber frames at that size. You can get good components like high end parts but it will still be an alloy frame and it would be ridiculously expensive for a bike that a kid would outgrow in 2 to 3 years.
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Post by anthrax76 on May 14, 2017 18:32:31 GMT 8
here's my take. 24" wheelsets, tires and tubes are very difficult to find locally. They used to be available, to the delight of riders who switched from BMX going to MTB. Unfortunately sources were lost one after the other.
if you want women specific bikes, Giant, GT and Spez offer choices. My friend who stands short of 5'1" has a Spez Jynx, a 650b rig which she can ride comfortably.
another friend of mine who's definitely below na 5 foot mark was able to get an XS Jamis. She knows the shops owner and was able to get the frame size she needed.
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Post by anthrax76 on May 14, 2017 22:13:00 GMT 8
he he, think about it, call entry level shops, mid level shops, high end shops and boutique shops. try to scout for 24" tires (the most consumable item), you'd be lucky to find even just a tire or a tube.
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Post by esulit on May 14, 2017 22:25:16 GMT 8
Okay. Although I cannot imagine why you would still want to stick with 24". I will share with you some of my research on the matter.
In terms of modern geometry, long, low and slack with short chainstays perhaps the best one out there right now (on paper) is the transition ripcord.
Lil' shredder phenom is another brand that is supposedly easy to pedal in spite of it being long low and slack (I will know soon enough when my son's bike gets here.)
That being said, those are probably the only 24" full suspension bikes that are trail oriented.
The rest of the other bikes are downhill and bike park oriented. These are most notably the kona stinky, Commencal Supreme 24, and Norco fluid 4.2.
The trek Fuel ex jr is also a trail oriented kids bike but that has 26" wheels.
To find used 24" kids full suspension bikes, you can look at pinkbike buy and sell. One of the best deals There is a bike park in Arizona that is currently disposing of their fleet of 2015 Kona Stinkys for $1000ea. They will do a complete overhaul of the bike before sending it to you. I believe they can ship globally.
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Post by anthrax76 on May 15, 2017 13:33:00 GMT 8
he he he, yung pito universal naman yata for all rims.
i understand the gigil factor, just like me dreaming of owning a Mountain Cycle San Andreas for the longest time. the thing with a 24" build is like buying an exotic car. once you own it, ang sarap ng feeling, pero kapag naghanap ka na ng pyesa...sakit na siya sa ulo.
during the heydays of urban assault builds (circa 2005), yan din ang gusto ng karamihan, 24" builds. parang big bmx ang feel without the mtb weight. a year or two later, wala ng mabiling tires locally. yung rims, alaga lang tatagal naman yan, spokes ganun din magtatagal. yung tubes, pwedeng over inflate mo ang 20" na pang bmx. pero tires, worst case scenario eh mag-iimport ka na.
wala rin naman ako ma-suggest for an odd build. closest i could think of is a 650b build with a rohloff hub and a hammerschmidt crankset.
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Post by anthrax76 on May 15, 2017 16:46:05 GMT 8
as with wheel size dependent components ang tatamaang parts ay:
frame fork tires tubes rims spokes
everything else, interchangeable naman.
my unsolicited advice, BMX na lang. let them master bike handling tapos tsaka na lang yung trail riding or endurance riding.
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Post by xiansantos on Feb 13, 2018 11:29:59 GMT 8
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Post by simplej0ys on Apr 11, 2018 6:39:31 GMT 8
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