sdny
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Post by sdny on Jan 25, 2008 12:14:17 GMT 8
hurray-hurray-hurray!!! glad that rst t8 is suited for us as alternate fork for expensive one! today i rode for a short 1km / 40deg uphill and the t8 didn't frustrate me up to the top of our gate 2 intrance/exit in fiilinvst 2. anyway, i'm happy with my new fork.........
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Post by goldkitten on Jan 27, 2008 0:11:06 GMT 8
** yes indeed it lives to what it supposed to be expected considering at cheaper price, "di kita maabutan ha ang bilis mo magdownhill - breakless grabe" ako konte alalay lang maybe at 50kph on average kase tanaw pa rin naman kita eh, hehehe...go go go RST Launch user c",?
OT: by the way im an SR Suntour Epicon user...
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ej
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Post by ej on Jan 27, 2008 22:37:15 GMT 8
thanks hehe im aming for d.h at terry!!!!!!!! nxt sunday i will beat 55 kph
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Post by wendellc on Jan 28, 2008 9:18:31 GMT 8
Bros, it is not meant for downhill. I have two friends using rst launch before. My friend went downhill going for only 45 kph, the launch broke in half, he had a nasty cut on his shoulder as a result. My other friend used it for drop rides, it did not last long after doing 5 drops of only 4 feet, had cuts on his knees and have to be stiched. Thankfully they were wearing helmets. If they weren't wearing helmets, for sure they will be confined in a hospital. Now my friends shifted to rock shox and sr suntour. Actually it is more reliable than rst. Why spend on cheap fork when your life is on the line. Just a warning bros....
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ej
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Post by ej on Jan 28, 2008 9:43:53 GMT 8
wendellc sir sanyo past the oics of broken rst fork??
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mckouleith
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Post by mckouleith on Jan 28, 2008 11:37:48 GMT 8
wendellc, sir, can you post as sir ej mention those broken rst... warranty will serve it's purpose... if it's not a generic rst though... i've seen some generic rst as compared to original rst... of the same price (or lower) huh... i forgot the name of the guy who tell me about it though, while selecting a good fork for my project back then... hmm, i'll try to reach that speed first, as i've said on my previous post, i haven't encounter specific problem so far on my rst... eventhough, i occassionally do some dj (2ft max) on most of the trails within my reach here, haven't encounter some problem still... last is within the outskirts of the trails that was being prepared for the padyakan here... ;D un lang, d ko lam bilis ng takbo ko... (translation: i don't have a "CAT-EYE" spedo yet... am i right?)
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Post by wendellc on Jan 28, 2008 12:28:34 GMT 8
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ej
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Post by ej on Jan 28, 2008 13:45:10 GMT 8
mckouleith i use my rst launch for dh here at subic go downhill for 55kph rocky trail brakeless and pedalling my fork dont broke at all and last saturday go downhill for 40 kph at killer loop does not broke the fork at all
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mckouleith
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Post by mckouleith on Jan 28, 2008 13:54:42 GMT 8
mckouleith i use my rst launch for dh here at subic go downhill for 55kph rocky trail brakeless and pedalling my fork dont broke at all and last saturday go downhill for 40 kph at killer loop does not broke the fork at all so you're with the bataan riders last sat? there's a couple of rst that was release this year, and we need to be specific which one really broke down... i was using a GILA PRO series... i'll take a second look on what sir wendellc says on what transpire to his friend's fork... better be careful rather than sorry... but i still really trust my fork will do no harm to me...
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ej
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Post by ej on Jan 28, 2008 14:09:14 GMT 8
yup sir im from subic riders i guess my rst launc will not broke ive test it im a really hardcore rider i go downhill for 55 kph a cuople of manuals and bunny hop so far i dont have problems on my fork
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Post by goldkitten on Jan 28, 2008 15:11:58 GMT 8
ej... since you are a first hand, first time user of this RST Launch, please do take the advice of others, it serves as a warning for you to be cautioned and take precautionary measure, we don't know how this will live to your riding discipline and indeed this is not designed for hardcore downhill... every fork has its specific designed on which it will be utilized, i also saw RST Alfalfa on the internet broke into half, Alfalfa is beefer than the Launch but it broke down, ill try to look at it and post the pics here for your preference... and its evident since that many are skeptics about RST's line of suspencion fork especialy the cheaper model, just be carefull on your practice, ikaw din baka di ka makaabot sa Terry nyan, hehe peace c",?
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Post by goldkitten on Jan 28, 2008 16:02:51 GMT 8
this is not to discourage RST user's...just a reference to take precautionary measures...
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sdny
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Post by sdny on Jan 28, 2008 16:25:36 GMT 8
so are you saying that one rst broke-in is also all the rst fork will do then? i'm saying it " :reviews on rst t8 launch" not the other way around! kinda out of the specific product nah ang reviews......... why a post an rst alfalfa when the head topic is for "rst t8 luanch reviews" c'mon guys what's our thread na bah? if ever the rst t8 launch was broken in two pieces my best advice if ever, return to the supplier for further investigation and what went wrong: if it is a human error, or not meant for downhill etc.. so that, this product will be recalled asap: hazardous to ride it. terrible-terrible-terrible!!!!!
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sdny
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Post by sdny on Jan 28, 2008 16:30:07 GMT 8
just an additional: alot of our friends mtb who are wanna be a downhiller, pls. askd/read the product specific uses, not just our ego "no fear". if the rst t8 launch has a problem maybe we could alert the dti for the product reviews on all bike parts that import thru our market!
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Post by goldkitten on Jan 28, 2008 16:30:58 GMT 8
sdny... please do read my statement thoroughly Sir and do comprehend what im implying and contributing on this discussion...ej is my friend and buddy in MTB, we always ride together, as a friend i am concerned because i knew how he ride, peace tnx c",?
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sdny
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Post by sdny on Jan 28, 2008 16:38:22 GMT 8
ah, okey! "reviews on t8 will do! referring to wendellc! peace brad!
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mckouleith
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Post by mckouleith on Jan 28, 2008 16:55:18 GMT 8
wheee!!! at least i have my warranty card with me... ;D that's the reason why i said on my previous post, let's just be specific with the model first... maybe it was limited to those item... i do have some inclination now regarding my fork since this post... and i hope it won't happen to me at all... but i already surpassed that 4x use on any given trails here as mentioned by a fellow mtb'ers here... been riding with this fork for exactly 50 days (road bike - daily use from home to office) and 7 days on abusive mode (when hitting the trails - every sunday and day-offs) since i bought it last nov 2007... ;D lots of negative reviews from rst gila sl to rst launch on previous years, but i haven't found any single reviews so far with this new sets of fork that was release for 2008, and that's what am basing right now with my choice of fork... why do i know this? simply googled it... maybe they already enhance and re-engineered this fork... that's on my opinion... or maybe those fork that was broken where not really intended for dh... check this for reference www.rst.com.tw/product/products2008.aspso that will category put rst launch T8 under DJ... where they clearly indicate, The forks for “Dirt Jump” bike need durable structure, shorter travel and hi performance hydraulic system.while RST fork for DH indicate, The fork for dh category needs long travel, durability and superb hydraulic performance.maybe, choosing the right fork that best fitted our riding style will do the math... as for me, it's not the brand that matters, what matters is they release specific fork for specific mtb discipline... will this worth my 2 cents opinion?
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Post by wendellc on Jan 28, 2008 17:27:35 GMT 8
this is not to discourage RST user's...just a reference to take precautionary measures... Wow! Its a nightmare hehehe! My friend's rst launch broke, it split from the crown and stachions where it mounts. My other friend's fork which is also the same fork broke from the mounting of the steering tube from the crown. Just be carefull on using the fork bros. I also use rst products before but i shifted to other fork brands.
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Post by olrac on Jan 28, 2008 21:06:12 GMT 8
even expensive forks break.. about the rst fork that broke. i hope the rider is ok now. i really don't know the rider but maybe the way he land is bad. actually i have doubt on the old rst launch T8 fork. sorry to the rst launch T8 fan.. i think dj fork got to be more expensive than the price of the old launch. for the new launch, i hope they improve it and i hope it is already available in the market as well as the other new rst forks.
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Post by wendellc on Jan 28, 2008 23:44:27 GMT 8
;D Check out this video bros. Its a video from SR Suntour.
Click on the link:
Pro riders are using SR Suntour also. Thats another reason why i trust Sr suntour.
;D I have been using rst forks before but now i know the comparison. I now use SR Suntour forks. Just from my experience bros. As what goldenkitten said, "this is not to discourage RST users". Just a concern of broken RST forks.
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Post by bobby on Jan 29, 2008 7:37:10 GMT 8
I have noticed that there are RST forks out in the market that do not display their true description based on RST's website (2008). For one, I've seen a same model as mine but it had a different finish with regards to the crown and stanchion housing.
It said in the product catalog that the finish is Satin but the one I saw, was Gloss finished. And it was selling for about the same price.They looked exactly the same even the decals, this is really getting me confused too. For sure RST will disagree that is does not conform with the company's product description if it broke and you try to argue about warranty issues here.
There comes a time a point in time that one way or the other things are bound to break. So be extra careful on this sport we choosed to live in.
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mckouleith
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Post by mckouleith on Jan 29, 2008 7:51:46 GMT 8
I have noticed that there are RST forks out in the market that do not display their true description based on RST's website (2008). For one, I've seen a same model as mine but it had a different finish with regards to the crown and stanchion housing. It said in the product catalog that the finish is Satin but the one I saw, was Gloss finished. And it was selling for about the same price.They looked exactly the same even the decals, this is really getting me confused too. For sure RST will disagree that is does not conform with the company's product description if it broke and you try to argue about warranty issues here. There comes a time a point in time that one way or the other things are bound to break. So be extra careful on this sport we choosed to live in. i agree with you sir... that fellow who give caution to me regarding those items, well, what did i do, i proceed to a nearby internet shop and search for the specific fork under rst... when am done, i return to the store, then purchase the fork, and guess what, i have my warranty card with me, so i can return the item if i found it defective... i still have 4 months to abuse it... hehehehe ;D ;D ;D kidding aside, i just doubt whether the item they bought are the real one or simply, the decals speak for itself as a "genuine"... (trans - na-peke...) peace out fellow rst fork user!!!
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Post by fiona d' princess on Jan 29, 2008 9:12:09 GMT 8
i have seen the web site of RST.... well if youre really into buying the launch fork.... i suggest that you choose the " RA" version, not the "T8"......why?..... if youre really hardcore you'll know what i mean...... the T8's are just plain coil.... so it does tops out (one thing DJ riders hate ).......
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Post by wendellc on Jan 29, 2008 9:20:48 GMT 8
i have seen the web site of RST.... well if youre really into buying the launch fork.... i suggest that you choose the " RA" version, not the "T8"......why?..... if youre really hardcore you'll know what i mean...... the T8's are just plain coil.... so it does tops out (one thing DJ riders hate )....... RST is still too heavy for jumping. I've tried it many times its like going to the gym for weight lifting. ;D Just a comment..
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mckouleith
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Post by mckouleith on Jan 29, 2008 9:21:47 GMT 8
i have seen the web site of RST.... well if youre really into buying the launch fork.... i suggest that you choose the " RA" version, not the "T8"......why?..... if youre really hardcore you'll know what i mean...... the T8's are just plain coil.... so it does tops out (one thing DJ riders hate )....... you got it po!!! that's true... though, am using a T8 for now... no plans on doing some serious DH/DJ for the meantime... i'll just reserve this fork when my dream project proceeds...
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Post by bryll on Jan 29, 2008 14:41:46 GMT 8
It's the landing not the launch!
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bobby
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Post by bobby on Jan 29, 2008 17:16:14 GMT 8
Bottom line is the Launch is really quite on the heavy side due to the coils and its aluminum not magnesium they used for the crown and stanchion housings. What more do you want for their price? Somewhere, somehow, someway there will always be a negative issue here.
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Post by knobbyist on Jan 29, 2008 22:41:41 GMT 8
i wonder what the circumstances were regarding this broken arch? alfalfas are pretty burly. i think the stanchions of which are more that 32 mm even. must be some landing. hope the dude wasn't seriously hurt.
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sdny
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Post by sdny on Jan 30, 2008 8:58:43 GMT 8
"houston we have a problem"
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Post by glockbiker on Jan 30, 2008 10:03:13 GMT 8
If I remember it right, RST Alfalfas have 36mm stanchions. They were quite beefy for forks of their generation.
Though a picture can say a thousand words, it would be best to first get the facts on how the arch cracked. You can't make an accurate judgement on the fork's (or any product for that matter)durability without first knowing what really happened.
For all we know, the biker-owner of that Alfalfa may have used the fork way beyond its limits.
At best, the picture would serve to show that these things do happen- but that's about it.
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