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Post by angelobryant on Oct 17, 2007 16:55:59 GMT 8
Can anybody give me their own personal review on the performance of the new XT08 RD and XT08 shifter pods. thanks ;D
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Post by marcs on Oct 17, 2007 17:20:17 GMT 8
from what i've read, not much difference with the XT07s shifters. but the RD, well, for one thing, the price is right i think they can go for about 1,900 only (almost the price of a 2nd hand pre-08 XT! hehehehe) The Shadow D is supposedly less prone to being damaged, so if you're using this on mostly XC riding only, don't think that will matter much. Still, if you're going Shimano, for the price I think it's good. I'd still say go for SRAM
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Post by badburn on Oct 17, 2007 18:05:28 GMT 8
I'm using XT08 RD M770 and XT07 Trigger Shifter precise and smooth shifting even on climb, shifts better than my old school xtr RD
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Post by edge808 on Oct 17, 2007 19:52:42 GMT 8
the 08xt shifters employ "Instant Release" which releases cable quicker for a quicker RD response. If you've experience the new XTR shifters, it feels similar. I've compared both 07 and 08 xt shifters, the newer one provides a crisper shift - like they want to engage instantly. It doesn't feel like you're pulling the rd to shift. I;ve tried both XTR 07 RD and the 08 XT Shadow. They feel the same! Super precise shifting for both. I moved to 08 XT for the shadow design.. Just my personal observation.
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Post by angelobryant on Oct 18, 2007 20:34:36 GMT 8
the 08xt shifters employ "Instant Release" which releases cable quicker for a quicker RD response. If you've experience the new XTR shifters, it feels similar. I've compared both 07 and 08 xt shifters, the newer one provides a crisper shift - like they want to engage instantly. It doesn't feel like you're pulling the rd to shift. I;ve tried both XTR 07 RD and the 08 XT Shadow. They feel the same! Super precise shifting for both. I moved to 08 XT for the shadow design.. Just my personal observation. opinions are what im looking for. thanks.. will go for the XT08 RD, as for the shifters, i'll upgrade to that later when I feel I need to go 9 speed. Im currently using 8 speed setup and quite satisfied with it. Besides, upgrading to 9 speed would entail cassette, chain and brake lever shifter change. I can't do that now, too much upgrade involved.
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Post by marcs on Oct 20, 2007 7:23:52 GMT 8
will that work? a 9spd RD with an 8spd cassette? I'm thinking it might, but may not shift properly given a 9spd and an 8spd cog pretty much has the same space, net a 9spd RD will have smaller shift indexes I think. Might work with some tuning, but I think it's best to have all your componants be compatible with each other.
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Post by ed on Oct 20, 2007 9:26:40 GMT 8
will that work? a 9spd RD with an 8spd cassette? I'm thinking it might, but may not shift properly given a 9spd and an 8spd cog pretty much has the same space, net a 9spd RD will have smaller shift indexes I think. Might work with some tuning, but I think it's best to have all your componants be compatible with each other. Yes, just make sure you also use your 8-speed shifter together with the 8-speed cogs and you'll be ok.
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Post by veeduber on Oct 20, 2007 9:52:22 GMT 8
and properly adjust the limits on your RD.
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Post by edge808 on Oct 20, 2007 9:57:44 GMT 8
dude i think the indexing comes with the shifter, not the rd. So it might be critical to get an 8-speed shifter.
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Post by randiezbee on Nov 9, 2007 16:57:28 GMT 8
how much is the 08 XT RD short cage?
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Post by mountguitars on Nov 9, 2007 17:51:56 GMT 8
guys,
is the XT rapid rise RD (not the shadow ha) available in midcage version?
went to kings and cycle art and they only have a long and shortcage for the rapid rise. but for the shadow, kumpleto. long, mid and short. ;D
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Post by anthrax76 on Nov 9, 2007 18:05:49 GMT 8
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Post by happyjapboy on Nov 10, 2007 10:16:37 GMT 8
Just replaced my RD / FD / SHIFTERS to XT 08. They are so far the best. Shifting is crisp and most noticeable for the Shadow RD is the considerable decrease in chain slap! Came from an LX RD.
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Post by angelobryant on Dec 3, 2007 15:33:20 GMT 8
Also came from an LX RD and I must say that shifting is much much more effortless than the LX contrary to what other users say. Shifting also is much more precise, precise and quick as in "click" on the shifter is immediately followed by a thud on the cassette meaning the RD has done its job effortlessly. I attribute this to the stiffer spring and sealed ceramic bushings (which I originally thought was sealed bearings ) my bad
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Post by DarKman on Dec 3, 2007 15:56:43 GMT 8
all i can say after using the 08xt rd and shifter is that my x7's are better (smoother). This after tunings from different shops.
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Post by Ben Dover on Dec 3, 2007 16:27:19 GMT 8
has anyone tried using 08 XT shadow with 08 XT DCL? what will happen?
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Post by BrusKO on Dec 3, 2007 17:15:11 GMT 8
It will shift when the push the levers. ... Obviously!
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Post by Ben Dover on Dec 3, 2007 18:07:10 GMT 8
oh i really?! huwaw! that's amazing! ...tell us more about it anyway, i read somewhere that the shadow is "Designed to work best with Rapidfire Plus shifters."...so to those of you not affected by high altitude sickness that baguio brings ;D ...what will be the negative effect if mated with the DCL? yup, never used a DCL before (subok subok lang)...in short, ignoramus
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Post by mountguitars on Dec 3, 2007 18:42:31 GMT 8
has anyone tried using 08 XT shadow with 08 XT DCL? what will happen? bruce has been using this setup: shadow XT + XTR DCL. no problems whatsoever except that the shifting for the left and right shifters are not the same meaning upshifts and downshifts are not the same just like using triggers. i've tried it too. XT shadow + LX DCL. no problems so far but i've already replaced the RD with rapid XT 08. im used to the same left and right upshift and downshift pag DCL eh, hehe. ;D
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Post by mountguitars on Dec 3, 2007 18:49:50 GMT 8
got myself both the rapid rise and the shadow, hehehe. ;D apparently, the shadow RD is only available in top/hi- normal only. rapid rise is low normal. so in short, its not possible to have a rapid rise shadow RD, hehehe ;D. its just either a shadow or rapid rise only.
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Post by Ben Dover on Dec 3, 2007 19:11:39 GMT 8
aha! no wonder bruce is having problems with his drive train hehe! ...thanks jon.
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Post by BrusKO on Dec 3, 2007 21:52:21 GMT 8
I wonder why Shimano says that the rapid rise rd is best suited for DCLs? Anyone? I can imagine though that shifting to a lighter gear while breaking is do-able with the said set-up. Really nifty for those downhill-switchback-uphill assaults- or even urban riding. Take the leap Lito- get the DCL! Rapid Rise ka naman eh!
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Post by bikedaddy on Dec 3, 2007 23:12:29 GMT 8
I wonder why Shimano says that the rapid rise rd is best suited for DCLs? Anyone? I can imagine though that shifting to a lighter gear while breaking is do-able with the said set-up. Really nifty for those downhill-switchback-uphill assaults- or even urban riding. Take the leap Lito- get the DCL! Rapid Rise ka naman eh! Rapid Rise ( morning and night) with XTR DCL shifter user here too. ;D
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Post by mountguitars on Dec 4, 2007 18:49:41 GMT 8
I wonder why Shimano says that the rapid rise rd is best suited for DCLs? Anyone? I can imagine though that shifting to a lighter gear while breaking is do-able with the said set-up. Really nifty for those downhill-switchback-uphill assaults- or even urban riding. Take the leap Lito- get the DCL! Rapid Rise ka naman eh! bruski, i think shimano made the rapid rise becoz of the abrupt and humungous ratio of the 9-speed cog mountainbikes. by default, its set to low so meaning the spring is normally suited to move to the lower (big sprocket) gears. come those crazy uphills where you forgot to shift, a flick of the shifters and the rapid rise RD will happily accomodate your request to use low gears even in those moments that the chain is tight or when you didnt prepare to shiftdown. that's why rapid rise is mabenta sa XC. to DH folks, this is not needed for obvious reasons, hehehe ;D. so, how come shimano didnt adapt rapid rise to road bikes? they say that the sprocket on road bikes is not that big and shifting is easy on roads becoz its not that abrupt not like in XC MTB. i found this out sa balat ng kendi that sir tolits gave me, hehehe ;D
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Post by bambini on May 29, 2008 18:20:15 GMT 8
newbie question...is the xt shadow rd compatible with deore dcl's?
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Post by angelobryant on May 29, 2008 19:17:36 GMT 8
Yes bambini, it is.
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Post by bambini on May 29, 2008 22:02:51 GMT 8
thanks sir!
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Post by The Independent Cyclist on Jun 8, 2008 4:10:28 GMT 8
well I got a xt08 rd short cage low normal that is. it works well on my lx rapid fire plus. no problem at all. use on trail several times and use it on the firefly tour this year. it feels good and i don't need to replace it. i feel safe and confident on it by the way.
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