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Post by nairda on Nov 7, 2005 9:47:41 GMT 8
What products do you recommend? Using an MTB with 1.95 tires. Preferably a product that you can easily detach and attach without using any tools. Would be using for bike commuting
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Post by Ben Dover on Nov 7, 2005 10:32:21 GMT 8
SKS i think is still a little bit better than others in this department..i still have the shockblade for the front though i rarely use it anymore since i dont really bike commute...i already sold the the x-blade for the rear because i found out that kahit anong rear fender di yata uubra sa rizal trails. pero kung bike commute..perfect sya...just make sure you mount them properly...a little pricey but im sure worth every peso. try this site: www.sks-germany.com/en/stage.php?mod=prdlist&cat=2&zg=2&seite=2&start=3
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Post by nairda on Nov 7, 2005 10:34:22 GMT 8
Where can I buy them and how much?
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Post by Ben Dover on Nov 7, 2005 10:45:26 GMT 8
Where can I buy them and how much? bought mine from paulinas...850 for shockblade and 1.2k (?) for x-blade dati almost 2 years ago.
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Post by king on Nov 7, 2005 11:07:06 GMT 8
you can also try the Topeak Defender. they're cheaper. i think they're only around P500-600. there's also one by Zefal that's in the same price range. if you want to save, a friend of mine just made one out of thick plastic (similar to the ones used for plastic folders) and clamped it on using his Headlock
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Post by nairda on Nov 7, 2005 12:59:08 GMT 8
Do you recommend that I get both the front and back fenders or is it okay if I get just the back?
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Post by king on Nov 7, 2005 13:49:04 GMT 8
i'd say the front is more important. water and mud will come up and hit you on the face, body and legs without one, even if you're going slow. if you wear a jacket when it rains, that will take care of the water coming off the back.
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Post by donbautist on Nov 7, 2005 14:53:49 GMT 8
We sell the front for 400 while the rear sells for 470
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Post by gilbs72 on Nov 7, 2005 15:03:59 GMT 8
Tanong lang po... I use Amoeba Headlock. Will I have problems installing the Topeak De Fenders up front? Also, will my brake booster interfere with the rear Topeak De Fenders? Thanks!
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Post by rickym on Nov 7, 2005 16:00:26 GMT 8
sir i think it will depends on how u mount the fender....ung front fender has solid 1 inch round bushing as in experience it so difficult to mount it on amoeba headlock ( the standard 1 ung silver or black na walang thread ang bottom parts nung headlock nuts...there are two kinds if amoeba headlock (correct me if im wrong) ung isa is steel standard headlock na walang screw sa bottom nung pinaka nut nya...the other one is ung aluminum type mostly in red color nung thread nya tapos may screw ung bottom parts ng nuts nya.....if u use the aluminum 1 na may screw and nuts at the bottom, u can directly mount the front fender, u will just remove the solid round bushing on the fender and mount it directly to the bottom of the headlock using the screw na kasama nung headlock sa ilalim........ hope this will help....btw ung aluminum amoeba headlock is available in some bikestor....i get mine at ross cycle in cartimar....
i tink ur rear brake booster will not interfere coz u will mount ur rear fender directly at the seat post...
tama po ba?.....kung mali blame nyo na lang ako....heheheehe
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Post by gilbs72 on Nov 7, 2005 16:50:56 GMT 8
Salamat rickym. Clarify ko lang sir... I've only seen one kind of Amoeba headlock and they come in silver or colored aluminum. Mine's all-silver except the headlock nut (top). Dito po ba pwede yung sinasabi nyo'ng technique?
I'm really interested in this topic 'coz I've been having trouble with mud lately. dehins na maalis sa dry-fit shirt even with clorox. The earlier quoted price for the Topeak De Fender I find attractive... if only it can be installed. Thanks again!
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Post by rickym on Nov 7, 2005 17:04:24 GMT 8
yes sir yan nga un, except po sa nut (the one on upper part - top ) d b yan ung nasa bandang ilalim ng fork half lang ang thread nyan.....meron modelo nyan na kulay black not silver..ung may thread tagusan sa ilalim (full thread)...ung iba kasi half lang ung thread...ung ang sinasabi ko po na madaling kabitan ng front fender kc full thread xa u can directly screw the hole of the fender thru this thread....
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Post by rickym on Nov 7, 2005 17:07:24 GMT 8
sir may modelo nyan na may full thread kay ross at cartimar...kaya lang di na red ang cap nya...black na ang cap nya...P 375.00 ang price...just look ensure kung full thread un nut na kasama nya..minsan kasi napapalitan ng half thread...
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Post by Ben Dover on Nov 7, 2005 17:22:19 GMT 8
please pardon my kamangmangan in this area...what's the advantage of this system over the starnut? isnt the stem thats really holding the fork/steerer in place..and the purpose of stem cap and nut is to give proper tightness before you finally lock the stem?
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Post by cobym on Nov 7, 2005 17:31:08 GMT 8
I tried both the topeak defender (front and back) and the SKS x-blade(rear). As well as a zefal front frame fender
for the rear:
The x-blade has more adjusment but is slightly narrower, 2.5 tires may render it useless. Its more expensive too (P1100) than the topeak. Super easy to mount (like 2 seconds to install). and it stays put relatively, except on really rough stuff.
The topeak is great and well-priced, but since I run it on my ht with a thudbuster, it tends to ride low and close to the wheel. Pag may jumps, it sometimes, hits the tire. That why I had to get the x-blade. Otherwise, ok sya if you have a long, normal seatpost.
for the front:
The topeak defender is wide, easy to install and take off. However, I dont think you can use it with a headlock. The fender's compression bolt will need to fit into the steerer tube of your fork from the bottom. Hence, Baka di pwede.
The zefal frame fender may be your only alternative. it attaches to the downtube of the frame. its ok for keeping your frame's downtube clean when your front tire is straight, but thats basically it. Its too narrow and far away from the tire to take care of splashes to your legs and body and the rest of the bike.
For commuting and light trail use, I'd suggest front and rear fenders(either SKS or Topeak). Saves you the ire of your labandera.
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Post by anthrax76 on Nov 8, 2005 10:52:08 GMT 8
please pardon my kamangmangan in this area...what's the advantage of this system over the starnut? isnt the stem thats really holding the fork/steerer in place..and the purpose of stem cap and nut is to give proper tightness before you finally lock the stem? from a barber's story (actually a mechanic): the starnut is a forced fit nut inside the fork's steerer tube. according to the mechanic in our lbs, there are some instances that a stem can be pulled off the steerer tube when it's not tightened properly. stem retention systems (like amoeba's stem lock) fixes the stem down to the fork's crown. which lessens the possibilty of it being pulled of the steerer tube. ****i haven't seen any stems pulled from a steerer tube though
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Post by gilbs72 on Nov 8, 2005 12:36:06 GMT 8
Thanks sa mga replies brad. Buying a new headlock (that will accept a screw sa bottom) will add to the cost of the fenders... but is worth considering. My old (generic) fenders on my mall bike were bolted on the bridge of the suspension fork (usually there's a single hole there--for calipers yata). Wala ba'ng branded fenders that connect this way? OT: Regarding the headlock vs starnut question, I think starnut is alright for most riders, even though it relies only on friction to "hold" and is made of rust-prone steel. For me, added security lang yung headlock. Why I ended up using a headlock... I happened to use a pipe-cutter on my steerer tube so may inward "lip" yung putol ko which kept compressing my starnut beyond the diameter of my tube when I popped it in. The headlock became an obvious choice versus buying a steel file.
Be careful lang how you tighten your headlock, coz too tight and you start putting stress (+friction) on your headset bearings. They can tighten enough that your steering will exhibit some resistance.
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