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Post by vertigo on Apr 24, 2005 19:01:11 GMT 8
anybody has or tried this? Forged 1-piece AL-7050-TV construction: Lightweight & strong. Highly fatigue resistant due to optimized heat treatment. Metal grey or mirror black anodized finish 170 / 175mm length 22 / 32 or 24 / 36 black anodized AL-7075-T6 chainrings High impact P.C. Bashguard. Cold formed & CNC’d with new anti-chainsuck features Smooth, ramped & pinned shifting 818g what can you say about this product? looks very strong ;D
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Post by vertigo on Apr 27, 2005 16:56:19 GMT 8
lolz no replies ;D ok i'll just rephrase my inquiry, here's another one of those kind: the Raceface Evolve DH crank BUILT FOR: DH and Freeride SIZE: 165,170, 175mm WEIGHT: 1207g (175mm with Bash and BB) which one of the two (between the truvativ holzfeller dbl or the raceface evolve DH) will be the best buy interms of durability? weight and price won't be an issue konti lang differnce between them. thanks ;D
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Post by stormloader on Apr 27, 2005 20:00:04 GMT 8
hehe here's a reply:
dude how much is the race face evolve? i know that the Truvativ Holzfeller can be had for like 4k plus sans BB. I too am very much interested with the latter. i'm really planning to save up for it (no more upgrades?nah) it's very ideal for my type of riding. it's not a full on bash guard/single ring combo ala Mr.dirt but i think it's more than capable plus it looks real sleek and sexy hehe. Preference ko is the 24/36 teeth btw unfortunately haven't seen much online reviews on the product
re: raceface evolve di ba it's Race Face's budget DH/FR crank since Diabolus is now the benchmark? i don't think they have double ring bash guard combo or do they? but i think this crank has proven its worth. a fave among north shore riders ata
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Post by donbautist on Apr 27, 2005 20:11:50 GMT 8
race face DH evolve - I have this installed on my xlr8. Single chain ring plus race face bb. I'm thinking of selling it for 4800 kasama yung bb.
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Post by vertigo on Apr 27, 2005 20:26:57 GMT 8
YUN me nag reply at last heheh mervs the raceface is somewhat a shade under the price of the holz, can't remember though pero di magkalayo ang price. yeah the holz really looks sleek indeed and best paired with a giga BB, the 24/36 is the one available. i think the only factor btwn them is the bashguards, the holzfeller is made up of polycarbonated heat treated plastic but very durable, unlike the raceface it's aluminum which is also as durable. saw them both earlier at kings. and yeah brad the raceface in Po-kyaps is the double ring bashguard already, that's why it's also a choice hehehe. i don't know which to pick but i know nman na either way is a good buy, but you are right the holzfeller is much appealable coz it's more sleek than the former. and suitable with my type of riding (and you as well hehe) but the race face naman delivers ruggedness and is also NS proven na, which makes it all the more confusing which to choose oh well anyway i just have to make sure of a good BB to pair with either of them. lets just wait and see this weekend when i decide ;D
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Post by stormloader on Apr 27, 2005 20:32:44 GMT 8
hmm almost similar pricing huh? and the evolve has double rings? that'll make you more confused now indeed hehe. Race Face na lang kaya? hehe I think more freeriders and downhillers swear by RF...i think. weight issue na lang siguro or you can always toss a coin
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Post by vertigo on Apr 27, 2005 20:36:07 GMT 8
race face DH evolve - I have this installed on my xlr8. Single chain ring plus race face bb. I'm thinking of selling it for 4800 kasama yung bb. wow that's a lucrative offer sir DonB but i prefer double chainring type for me to have something left for the climbs ;D
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Post by vertigo on Apr 27, 2005 20:42:29 GMT 8
hmm almost similar pricing huh? and the evolve has double rings? that'll make you more confused now indeed hehe. Race Face na lang kaya? hehe I think more freeriders and downhillers swear by RF...i think. weight issue na lang siguro or you can always toss a coin hahha yeah you know what that's what i'll do hehehe, when are you gonna buy yours? by now i'm scourging the net for reviews for both but to no avail, but the race face really rings the bell in reviews and indeed all of them are positive reviews. i just hope they also sport the 24/36 chainring as well and if it does, i think that's the way to go for me (i might go the other way around though) ;D ;D ;D
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Post by gwm..."GRASS-HAPA" on Apr 27, 2005 20:57:26 GMT 8
i'm raceface biased but i'd say evolve for one reason... IT ISN'T ISIS ANYMORE the new outboard bearing (a la saint, xtr cranks) make the evolve leaps and bounds vetter than the holzfeller. its lighter, stiffer and has got a longer life span IMO. if you're a fan of isis then the holzfeller is king of the hill. its the most used cranks in the US dh circuit. the only difference between the diabolus and the evolve dh cranks is where its made. the former is made in B.C. and the latter is made in taiwan, both use the same bearings and bb's, crank arms lang nagka-iba
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Post by vertigo on Apr 27, 2005 21:20:22 GMT 8
sir great white...thanks for the tip ;D
looks like the toss is over (almost) in favor of the raceface evolve, would you also recommend a good BB to pair these. thanks
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Post by basti on Apr 28, 2005 7:15:11 GMT 8
brad vertigo! just a tip... if you want a dual ring setup, go for the holzefeller coz it has a 24/36 chainrings...unlike the evolve which is only available in 22/32 chainrings... just my 2 cents..
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Post by alien_scream on Apr 28, 2005 7:46:09 GMT 8
i use truvatives cranks on both my bikes and receface components on some!!!!!! for me if your a DH/FR go for the raceface better if you could get hold of the northshore DH cranks of even better the diabolous!!!!!!!!!! but if your on urban/street wait for the truvative urban!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by puregutz on Apr 29, 2005 8:13:20 GMT 8
Sir I tried both Raceface and TruVativ. I think they're equally strong and durable. However, been through a couple of raceface BB's and also tried FSA's and they dont seem to last too long. Until I tried TruVativ gigapipes.
If I may suggest, get whichever crank you like but pair it with a compatible TruVativ gigapipe BB. Very durable.
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Post by jrjrjr on Apr 29, 2005 8:15:59 GMT 8
fsa's platinum is also durable...
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Post by stormloader on Apr 29, 2005 10:00:08 GMT 8
brad vertigo! just a tip... if you want a dual ring setup, go for the holzefeller coz it has a 24/36 chainrings...unlike the evolve which is only available in 22/32 chainrings... just my 2 cents.. don, if this is so then this will be a major consideration if you want to do occasional to moderate trailing and climbing. unless you want to make your bike a full on urban steed i'll stick to the holz and pair it with a bombproof BB. good thing bok mentioned this Kelan ka bibili dude? mervz
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Post by vertigo on Apr 29, 2005 11:30:39 GMT 8
thanks for all th input guys it's really a big help ;D mervs, i reserved a holz and i'll prolly get it this sunday, i prefer the 24/36 setup, tsk raceface sana pero it's like truvativ is the choice na, i wont get stuck on urban and i'd love to hit the trails as well and that's for sure ;D how about you mervs what r u gonna buy? hehhe
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Post by alien_scream on Apr 29, 2005 13:31:46 GMT 8
Sir I tried both Raceface and TruVativ. I think they're equally strong and durable. However, been through a couple of raceface BB's and also tried FSA's and they dont seem to last too long. Until I tried TruVativ gigapipes. If I may suggest, get whichever crank you like but pair it with a compatible TruVativ gigapipe BB. Very durable. well said!!!!!! i've been a giga fan for so long now, paired with a hussfelt and a hulzfeller!!!!! now i'm waiting for the urban for for my urban bike!!!!!!!
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Post by Poseur on Apr 30, 2005 21:15:13 GMT 8
if you're buying a new crank then get what GWM says... outboard bearings are the way to go. ISIS had it's time but now that's old news. i'm not talking about what's in/out fashionable or trend.... outboard bearings are just stronger and will last longer than the ISIS counterparts.... gigapipe or what have u. if u buy a new crank and it's ISIS... i consider that as a non-upgrade and a waste of mula.... IMO.
as for the ring combination 22/36 etc... etc.... u won't know the difference. use your rear derailleur and shift!
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Post by vertigo on Apr 30, 2005 22:13:57 GMT 8
if you're buying a new crank then get what GWM says... outboard bearings are the way to go. ISIS had it's time but now that's old news. i'm not talking about what's in/out fashionable or trend.... outboard bearings are just stronger and will last longer than the ISIS counterparts.... gigapipe or what have u. if u buy a new crank and it's ISIS... i consider that as a non-upgrade and a waste of mula.... IMO. as for the ring combination 22/36 etc... etc.... u won't know the difference. use your rear derailleur and shift! waste of money why is that so? care to elaborate (about the waste o money thing) i'm coming from acera cranks n BB, which is presentably strong IMO but this is truvativ holz with a GIGA BB with a much stronger base. and i know too well how the raceface works (xtype outer BB tech) and i know too well it's not that i'm gonna consider it coz it's the "in" nowadays and i know that outer bearings will last longer than their ISIS counterparts because they are stronger indeed! (of course i've been reading stuff) ;D as for the ring combination, of course there is a difference, 22/32 -vs- 24/36? i think it speaks for itself mate' ;D moreover, i know i'm a newbie, but just wondering, are you implying that i don't fully understand how the RD works ;D? or am i missing a point? i respect all your suggestions here that's why i feel comfortable to ask all questions, and i understand i'm just new in this world, heheh i don't know anyways thanks i appreciate the suggies ;D and lastly, i also thought of waiting for this instead: www.nsmb.com/gear/sram_camp_truvativ_04_05.php
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Post by stormloader on May 4, 2005 12:05:10 GMT 8
waste of money why is that so? care to elaborate (about the waste o money thing) i'm coming from acera cranks n BB, which is presentably strong IMO but this is truvativ holz with a GIGA BB with a much stronger base. as for the ring combination, of course there is a difference, 22/32 -vs- 24/36? i think it speaks for itself mate' ;D dude for pure downhilllers kasi or free riders who rarely do climbs they'll not really notice the subtle difference a few teeth can make IMO. as for those who love the uphills almost as much as the downhills (like moi) the difference is very vital. in your case i know you're willing to tackle all-mountain trails too so you'd better spec it right: 24/36 with the 11/34 9 sp is the way to go i think you can still go with the isis btw coz it's still head and shoulders above the shimano low-end to mid-end BBs. peachy, as with most free ride type guys, have different set of standards now as technology continue to evolve. with your riding preference (urban-trail, 5 ft.drops) i think the isis can still go a long way if you're not willing to pay for the newer, hi-endy stuff
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Post by vertigo on May 4, 2005 13:04:46 GMT 8
exactly my point boss mervs, i'm not a DH'ller, if i was then i'd probably choose those single chain rings w/ bash and chain guides. what i do know is that the difference btwn 22/32 and 24/36 is indeed vital when you consider climbing and all other stuffs you plan your bike to do. and moreover, siguro naman the holz or either the raceface is much stronger IMO than acera, even the least of knowledgeable MTB'ers would know that ;D
still deciding and accumulating the funds though ;D
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Post by ealdegu on Jun 13, 2005 9:48:43 GMT 8
wow, i feel so very lucky and blessed in joining this forum.
update us vertigo ha.
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Post by vertigo on Jun 13, 2005 10:55:23 GMT 8
wow, i feel so very lucky and blessed in joining this forum. update us vertigo ha. sir ealdegu, that's how i felt too when i saw this forum, free knowledge database and met new good friends;D i got the holz over the evolve ;D simply coz of the chainring setup 26/36, perfect for those who still loves to climb and to blast the descends on the trails, ideal for a light FR/AM/urban trailbike setup ;D
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Post by ealdegu on Jun 13, 2005 12:52:24 GMT 8
maybe i will get the hussefelt. pls read my pm vertigo.
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Post by [ eRECTUS ] on Jul 4, 2005 13:06:30 GMT 8
I've had my Holzfeller for 6 mos. now and I am very impressed with it The 22/36 T combination is such a nice combination imho better than the SHIMANO 22/32 usual combo for.. But I have biasness towards the outer board bearings of SHIMANO due to its ease of use and efficiency, so given the choice I would still lean towards my SAINT ;D
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Post by bbe13 on Jul 12, 2005 21:29:54 GMT 8
hi guys, im saving up for a freeride crankset pref a holzfeller, any suggestions on where i can what shop has the best deal for this thing?
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