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Post by grnhrnt on Jan 4, 2005 15:28:27 GMT 8
Biking guru's, I need your advise. Which would you get? Although the jamis is priced 10-12t (jamis dakar sport 48-52t - Gaint nrs 3 37-42t) more, they come w/ better disc brakes and front & rear shocks. Or are there other brands I should consider before i purchase. Thanks.
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Post by gwm..."GRASS-HAPA" on Jan 4, 2005 16:05:16 GMT 8
depends on what you wanna do dude jamis dakar sport is a versatile trailbike. its a more "fun" play bike. nrs on the other hand is a serious xc performer. the nrs system mimics hardtail stiffness on climbs and adds some "cush" when hammering down on fire roads. if you do more xc or love to climb:nrs if you like to do more serious trailriding and get that "trailbike" geometry and don't mind a few "bobs" once in a while: try the jamis on a personal note: my gf just went fs this december and with the trails that we ride (sta.rosa, maarat and the occasional tagaytay, and out of town explorations) considered we both felt she needed something with a we bit more versatility. these were our exact same options-budget wise. it was the fact that you could slap on a 5" fork on the dakar sport that made the difference. we got the dakar (the red ano '05 is just plain gorgeous ;D)
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Post by staind on Jan 4, 2005 16:43:04 GMT 8
gwm, curious, why not his and hers hecklers? is the weight diff. between the jamis and heckler that big price-wise, big diff. ba? just wonderin.
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Post by gwm..."GRASS-HAPA" on Jan 4, 2005 20:34:42 GMT 8
staind, you're looking at almost double the cost for the frame alone! we were considering a juliana sana but even that was still pricey! 'cruz bikes are never cheap i guess her bike though is still a virgin on the trails, she's been busy and hasn't found the time to ride yet but i'll post any feedback she gives when we finally get to ride
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Post by grnhrnt on Jan 6, 2005 11:09:16 GMT 8
gwm,
thanks for the response. I will be buying the bike for my wife. We normally do the sta rosa & munti trails. I do use an nrs3 so i know the feeling. I really wanted to ask how the jamis would hold up. And of course the red anodized color, That's the kicker huh?
Could you educate me w/ the differences of a cross country bike and trail bike?
Thanks
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Post by donbautist on Jan 6, 2005 11:54:41 GMT 8
In a nut shell:
Cross Country bikes - are usually lightweight hardtails or FS Bikes that have 3 inches of travel. A cross country bike is designed primarily for climbing and pedalling. A good Xc bike usually weighs 19 to 25 lbs and are mostly used on prepared or maintained tracks. You wouldn't want to do drops of more than 3 ft with an XC frame.
Trail Bikes - are more durable than XC bikes. They are heavier, weighing in between 23 to 28 lbs. Trailbikes also have on the average 4 to 5 inches of suspension. The trail bike can handle technical courses better than the average XC Bike
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Post by staind on Jan 6, 2005 11:54:59 GMT 8
jamis dakar sport 48-52t - Gaint nrs 3 37-42t so the price above is for a complete bike pala thought it was for a frame lang kaya that made me wonder why not another heckler (for her).
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Post by gwm..."GRASS-HAPA" on Jan 7, 2005 0:36:20 GMT 8
don, couldn't have said it better myself ;D staind, yup... the dakar sport '05 though is super sweet. i just love looking at that thing
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Post by grnhrnt on Jan 10, 2005 10:12:57 GMT 8
don,
great ride last sunday! yup, now I know the difference. Good thing you stopped me from doing the 5 ft drop w/ my nrs3. Ordered the red jamis for wifey already. thanks for all info.
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Post by grnhrnt on Jan 11, 2005 18:03:16 GMT 8
gwm,
has your gf ridden on the jamis sport yet? how did it perform. any reviews?
I haven't gotten my wife's bike yet but have ordered and according to store owner it's been shipped to manila already. hopefully w/in this week
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Post by Freeman on Jan 11, 2005 20:01:44 GMT 8
sana dumating na ;D ;D ;D
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Post by Cage Diver on Jan 20, 2005 16:16:50 GMT 8
I ride an XLT 3.0 Jamis Dakar and am very happy with it. What I know about Jamis Dakar's on a parts per spec vs Giant, you've got better parts on the Jamis. I would reco a Jamis Dakar given the fact you can put in a fork with more travel on it.
Although the new Titus Moto-lite got me thinking...
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Post by gulliver on Jan 20, 2005 18:13:14 GMT 8
Although the new Titus Moto-lite got me thinking... hehehe, it sure would!
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Post by grnhrnt on Jan 21, 2005 11:21:11 GMT 8
cage diver,
What's the price range of the titus - moto lite? And who carries this brand?
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Post by warlock^_^ on Jan 21, 2005 11:32:37 GMT 8
cage diver, What's the price range of the titus - moto lite? And who carries this brand? Its from TITUS.....the bike model is MOTOLITE (pangmatagalan!) www.titusti.com/motolite.htmlbrad heres the link of that bike featured in Bike Spotlight, jest check out the link at the bottom which will lead you to mtbr.com's thread and the price were discussed on this thread.
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Post by grnhrnt on Jan 21, 2005 11:49:30 GMT 8
Thanks warlock for the link.
Hope your better. I rode Maarat last sunday, after reading about your accident, I rode down the u-turn you fell on w/ more caution. If anything, posting your accident should prevent future accidents by 1st timers too.
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Post by warlock^_^ on Jan 21, 2005 11:58:12 GMT 8
Thanks warlock for the link. Hope your better. I rode Maarat last sunday, after reading about your accident, I rode down the u-turn you fell on w/ more caution. If anything, posting your accident should prevent future accidents by 1st timers too. Your welcome brad... I'm better now, I can walk without limping but will still see my doc this weekend to get the final diagnosis. Yeah hope it will warn everyone not only to newbies but new to Maarat.... they just told me about the earlier 3 fatalities of that said curve when I was resting after the spill....
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Post by g on Jan 21, 2005 17:17:37 GMT 8
grnhrnt ,
how much did u get the dakar sport? and where?
my girlfriend is looking for a nice ladies bike.
thanks!
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Post by gonz on Jan 21, 2005 19:01:32 GMT 8
g,
try mo all terra sa libis. jamis dakar sport around 40k to 50k.
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Post by grnhrnt on Jan 24, 2005 10:49:38 GMT 8
The Jamis Dakar sport sells, 48-52k. There is another version which is the jamis dakar, sells for around 38-42k, The difference being the "sport" verion comes in the red anodized color, has BB5 '05 avid disc brake set and not sure of the others, the "dakar" version, comes in the anodized blue color and has a v-brake set up. Incidentally, My wife loves the bike! She was telling me, now she understands why I am able to go fast inspite of bumpy conditions. Of course, yung kulay, bagay na bagay daw sa kanya! A little let down on the rear shock though, there was no rebound adjustment. I tried to set it "soft" (low compression) she felt the bike was throwing her off during the rebound stroke. So i had to increase the air w/c in turn also increased the rebound. Apparently, directlly proportional yung compression & rebound setting. Oh, plus the moment I got the bike, i brought it to a friend of mine who assembled and tuned it. He also checked and greased all joints. This is very important because "squeeking" was the complaint of many reviews I read in www.mtbr.com. "Ang tipid daw mag-grasa ng Jamis".... Hehehehe....
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Post by gwm..."GRASS-HAPA" on Jan 24, 2005 22:12:21 GMT 8
The Jamis Dakar sport sells, 48-52k. There is another version which is the jamis dakar, sells for around 38-42k, The difference being the "sport" verion comes in the red anodized color, has BB5 '05 avid disc brake set and not sure of the others, the "dakar" version, comes in the anodized blue color and has a v-brake set up. Incidentally, My wife loves the bike! She was telling me, now she understands why I am able to go fast inspite of bumpy conditions. Of course, yung kulay, bagay na bagay daw sa kanya! A little let down on the rear shock though, there was no rebound adjustment. I tried to set it "soft" (low compression) she felt the bike was throwing her off during the rebound stroke. So i had to increase the air w/c in turn also increased the rebound. Apparently, directlly proportional yung compression & rebound setting. Oh, plus the moment I got the bike, i brought it to a friend of mine who assembled and tuned it. He also checked and greased all joints. This is very important because "squeeking" was the complaint of many reviews I read in www.mtbr.com. "Ang tipid daw mag-grasa ng Jamis".... Hehehehe.... brad, thanks for the grease update... will get on that asap on my girls ride. same experience with the rear shock... sarap tuloy ipa-rp3 all in all it is a very sweet ride btw, the main difference in the dakar and the dakar sport is that the rear shock. the dakar sport has the float air shock while the dakar has a coil over vanilla (read: heavy! ;D)
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Post by donbautist on Jan 25, 2005 1:30:56 GMT 8
Ganda ganda bike ni boss ramon......naiyak ako sa tuwa habang inaassemble.......call me nga pala when you have the time.....nasakin na price list ng bago mong order.
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Post by grnhrnt on Jan 25, 2005 10:44:47 GMT 8
Sir Don,
Hehehehe...Sir you know what it involves, hahahaha...Thanks for introducing me to Bong, He's a really good bike tuner.
Will be dropping off nga my bike later just to re-tune shifting and replace stem bolt.
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Post by g on Jan 25, 2005 17:49:55 GMT 8
thanks gonz and grnhrnt! whoa! The dakar sounds really good but is way off my budget.. my girl and I are just gonna get into the sport and was wondering what bikes we could get - i've been looking at the Jamis XC 2.0, and my friend mentioned that I should also look at the GIANT Yukon. which is better? also, a question for the girls or those who have bought beginner bikes for girls-- what would you recommend? btw, I'm 5'10.5" and she's 5'2" thanks a lot! .G
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