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Post by Kevin on Apr 1, 2008 23:45:36 GMT 8
In sir Jojo's case it's so sad that he still need to spent more money to recovered his precious bike... But im sure reward money is nothing after he and his bike reunite again... ;D ;D brad Ricky! brad Savers already recovered his bike a long time ago. I remember him riding his recovered bike albeit with damaged paint work. He even invited PinoyMTBiker to a mini thanksgiving party. |
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Post by savers on Apr 3, 2008 12:06:57 GMT 8
accused norbin Paquiz pleaded not guilty on his arraignment, so our next hearing will be on the 30th of april. then, after the hearing the accused norbin paqiuz together with his family are begging for forgiveness and willing to compensate me on the damages he incurred. accordig to the barangay chairman who accompanied him on the said hearing, he disclosed that the accused are now employed and now a good citizan in his aor. what do you think guys? should i forgive him?
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bocoycoy
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Post by bocoycoy on Apr 3, 2008 12:27:20 GMT 8
pleaded not guilty?
anyways, sometimes...it's better for us to forgive someone who had committed mistakes against us...but this time, we better let them learn their lessons...it may sound so harsh, but we should teach them...how can we prosper, or improve our lives if we just allow these kind of people to do those stupid acts...
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Post by bocoycoy on Apr 3, 2008 12:27:36 GMT 8
follow ur heart brad... ;D
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Post by estok on Apr 3, 2008 12:33:58 GMT 8
hi savers, dunno wat to say but all i want is...kicking his ass...  ;D yup follow ur heart....  |
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Post by rickym on Apr 3, 2008 14:20:39 GMT 8
accused norbin Paquiz pleaded not guilty on his arraignment, what do you think guys? should i forgive him? Crime Doesn't Pay!! If you're very sure that He's the ONE!...and HE pleaded not guilty.....I think u should "HAVE NO MERCY!" if you forgive him....he may again commit same crime (he'll think he can easily got forgiveness) .....maybe NOT unto U but maybe on other very own PinoyMTBiker's or maybe even on ME.... Let him suffer for HIS crime! Sorry guys....if I HAVE HEARTLESS FEELIN  ....CO'Z my bike long time ALSO STOLEN.....(2 years ago when im residing at LEVERIZA ST. PASAY CITY ...) |
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Post by Ben Dover on Apr 3, 2008 15:21:03 GMT 8
accused norbin Paquiz pleaded not guilty on his arraignment, so our next hearing will be on the 30th of april. then, after the hearing the accused norbin paqiuz together with his family are begging for forgiveness and wiling to compensate me on the damages he incurred. accordig to the barangay chairman who accompanied him on the said hearing, he disclosed that the accused are now employed and now a good citizan in his aor. what do you think guys? should i forgive him? are you sure it's him?....he pleaded not guilty...what are you gonna do with a thief and a liar?  |
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savers
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Post by savers on Apr 3, 2008 16:51:26 GMT 8
actually the reason for his plea is that for him to be able to compensate me on time.because the moment he pleaded guilty, his sentence will be accorded to him immediately and his sentence will be 6-12 years. he asked me for forgiveness and he just starting a new life when i caught him.
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Post by Taba® on Apr 3, 2008 17:32:54 GMT 8
actually the reason for his plea is that for him to be able to compensate me on time.because the moment he pleaded guilty, his sentence will be accorded to him immediately and his sentence will be 6-12 years. he asked me for forgiveness and he just starting a new life when i caught him. I salute you savers...you're a very kind hearted man. If JC can forgive, who are we not to? Cheers mate! |
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Post by rexman on Apr 3, 2008 18:12:02 GMT 8
"what do you think guys? should i forgive him?"
my opinion - YES.
he pleaded not guilty just to avoid the legal 6-12 yrs in prison right? but when not faced with legalities and admits his crime to you asking for forgiveness and even offering compensation then that is repentance already, I think. he has been imprisoned, so i hope he knows how it is. If he's smart, he'll not do it again. also the fact that he already has a job means he's at least in the right direction.
I pray that he doesn't do bad things again.
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Post by Makoy on Apr 3, 2008 21:36:50 GMT 8
yes
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Post by bobby on Apr 4, 2008 7:29:15 GMT 8
accused norbin Paquiz pleaded not guilty on his arraignment, so our next hearing will be on the 30th of april. then, after the hearing the accused norbin paqiuz together with his family are begging for forgiveness and willing to compensate me on the damages he incurred. accordig to the barangay chairman who accompanied him on the said hearing, he disclosed that the accused are now employed and now a good citizan in his aor. what do you think guys? should i forgive him? pleaded not guilty, yes, on the grounds of poverty right? if you (savers) could honestly pinpoint him as the one and only culprit (in the back of our minds we know that someone is guilty but we just cannot pass judgement unless it passes thru the legal process) then it is a known fact that he is guilty. what do the people in this thread really want? make Norbin pay for the crime he committed when he was still jobless and confused? if the chairman can take full responsibility on the man then, i say let him be convicted, it is the law, that is why they were made otherwise there would be no order and chaos would be the end results. i think it can be discussed within chambers with the judge to lower the sentence, am not sure though (not a lawyer) my point is if the man is leading a new life and is now employed decently let him get his second lease in life. with the chair of the barangay serving as guarantor of his good behaviour. i hope his employer does not fire him, that could lead to another series of stealing and the cycle goes on and on. i do pity people who are like Norbin Paquiz. Peace! |
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Post by Ben Dover on Apr 4, 2008 10:55:25 GMT 8
i suggest you take a look first at this guy's...what do you call the sheet, the list of crimes committed by this guy or record of charges filed against him? do you guys (PNP) have that? if you do have that then what does it says? is the guy notorious for doing these things?
its not that i'm an unforgiving person...i just think that we should look at things like this with the welfare of greater number of people in mind rather than just one person...a simple crime of robbery can turn ugly very easily peeps...sometimes its really hard to make a decision specially if it will determine future life of a person...but always remember, "sa ano mang gawain, kailangan ng tibay ng puso." ;D
is forgiveness automatically means letting him loose? hehe! maybe i have different definition of that term.
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bocoycoy
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Post by bocoycoy on Apr 4, 2008 12:42:44 GMT 8
yeah...i totally agree... forgiving is different from letting him loose...it's not that, i don't have a kind heart...but i just want them to learn their lesson...coz i do believe that everyone on earth is being taught with what is right and what is wrong....it hurts kasi when important things in your life will be stolen...it's like "ikaw ang nag-hain, iba na man ang kumain...." let him show na he changed na talaga...coz when you say na you learned or regretted about it, u should not do it again....he's just so lucky that brad Savers is a very kind person...and with this, he must renew his life...and change for the BETTER.... |
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Post by Ti-bar on Apr 4, 2008 13:33:55 GMT 8
accused norbin Paquiz pleaded not guilty on his arraignment, so our next hearing will be on the 30th of april. then, after the hearing the accused norbin paqiuz together with his family are begging for forgiveness and willing to compensate me on the damages he incurred. accordig to the barangay chairman who accompanied him on the said hearing, he disclosed that the accused are now employed and now a good citizan in his aor. what do you think guys? should i forgive him? pleaded not guilty, yes, on the grounds of poverty right? ... what do the people in this thread really want? make Norbin pay for the crime he committed when he was still jobless and confused? i do pity people who are like Norbin Paquiz. Peace! Sir Saver, a dilemma on your part is it? why dont we put the matter in this scenario, he stole another ones property, the victim was in anguish for quite a time, you did your job sleuthing and finally caught the perpetrator, you hauled the guy to jail, then here comes the victim asking the person to be set free because he asked forgiveness and pity him. how will you feel? or if the victim ask you for the same opinion you are asking how would you put it? @ bobby: he committed the crime when he was jobless and confused? well with so many incidents of stealing, robbing, snatching etc., well we can say that there so many filipinos that are confuse nowadays. i beg to disagree on that one brad, they are not confused when theyre doing it, theyre aware of what they were doing, it is only that when they are caught that they became confuse never expecting that trheyll be caught. Sir Saver, its only proper that you forgive the one who have done you wrong, thats Christian teaching, but the matter is already in court, let everything runs in its proper course. |
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Post by u2y911 on Apr 10, 2008 10:47:32 GMT 8
very well said ti-bar...
is good to forgive but still he must learn his lessons..
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Post by notsky on Apr 10, 2008 10:58:02 GMT 8
i agree Ti-bar, nicely said...
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Post by angelobryant on Apr 10, 2008 11:42:04 GMT 8
He must learn his lesson!
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savers
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Post by savers on Apr 10, 2008 17:19:27 GMT 8
noted guys.thanks for all your inputs. will consider it.
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katipzrider
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Post by katipzrider on Apr 15, 2008 2:24:20 GMT 8
accused norbin Paquiz pleaded not guilty on his arraignment, so our next hearing will be on the 30th of april. then, after the hearing the accused norbin paqiuz together with his family are begging for forgiveness and willing to compensate me on the damages he incurred. accordig to the barangay chairman who accompanied him on the said hearing, he disclosed that the accused are now employed and now a good citizan in his aor. what do you think guys? should i forgive him? sir savers, this is just my opinion he deserves a kick in his groin and and his head and let him bleed! Poverty is no longer an excuse and for me that word is already overused by most criminals. |
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Post by gdown on May 3, 2008 16:31:58 GMT 8
Whoaaa!! parang pelikulang inabangan namin!! exciting din pala tong thread na to.... but if i was the victim,, I'l pursue the case to give him some realization behind bars>
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