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Post by gilbs72 on Aug 26, 2005 16:12:58 GMT 8
Yung PNR railway cuts through Metro Manila from north to south and naka-fence-off from the cars. Siguro if all the land beside it now occupied by squatters could be freed for public use as bike lanes and walkways (just put additional fencing from the tracks), you could pedal straight from north to south without hassle and exit anywhere in between. If the government could find a suitable relocation arrangement for the dwellers (plus the political will to do this), maybe this land could be put to better use. Just thinking out loud.
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Post by styxmaster69 on Aug 29, 2005 16:33:56 GMT 8
Yung PNR railway cuts through Metro Manila from north to south and naka-fence-off from the cars. Siguro if all the land beside it now occupied by squatters could be freed for public use as bike lanes and walkways (just put additional fencing from the tracks), you could pedal straight from north to south without hassle and exit anywhere in between. If the government could find a suitable relocation arrangement for the dwellers (plus the political will to do this), maybe this land could be put to better use. Just thinking out loud. this is one big problem...... these are professional squatters, pay them to evacuate the place..... they'll jaz move to another location to squatt.... give them a decent housing they'll sell it and will go back being a squatters...... I think what PNR should do to get rid of the squatters on the railway side..... "PALAPARAN ANG TREN" ;D
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Post by Eikichi on Aug 30, 2005 1:37:31 GMT 8
Ey guys I just watched from the news last sunday that DOH is agaisnt biking, they insists that biking is not "THE SOLUTION" to oil crisis, and its that biking here in the philippines is "BAD FOR YOUR HEALTH" whew! watcha sayin guys?
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Post by marcs on Aug 30, 2005 6:59:29 GMT 8
May meeting daw tomorrow? Sino padala ng PinoyMTBiker? President Owen? hehehehe
MMDA links up with bike groups for lane routes
First posted 00:29am (Mla time) Aug 30, 2005 By Tarra V. Quismundo Inquirer News Service
Editor's Note: Published on page A23 of the August 30, 2005 issue of the Philippine Daily Inquirer
THE METROPOLITAN Manila Development Authority (MMDA) is set to meet with different bike groups Wednesday to exchange ideas regarding mapping out a viable interconnected bikeway for Metro Manila.
At least five bike groups had been invited to the meeting to suggest bike routes for the agency’s Metro Bike and Pedal Ways Project, said MMDA general manager Robert Nacianceno.
“We want to identify the routes for the bike lanes because some of the groups’ members bike to work and have already established their own routes. We’d like to know where these are,” he said.
The integrated bike and pedestrian lanes project is aimed at providing safe bike lanes and walkways for Metro Manila’s bikers. The MMDA project also seeks to encourage Metro commuters to bike or walk short distances to save on transportation costs and adopt a healthy lifestyle.
Invited were the Quezon City Cycling Club, the Greenhills Cycling Club, the Diosdado Macapagal Highway Cycling Club, the Alabang Cycling Club, and the Philippine Biking Association.
“Even other groups that we were unable to invite are welcome, as long as they support the bike and pedal ways project,” Nacianceno added. The use of secondary roads as bikeways had been suggested earlier.
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Post by eiwol on Aug 30, 2005 7:25:11 GMT 8
May meeting daw tomorrow? Sino padala ng PinoyMTBiker? President Owen? hehehehe honga! PinoyMTBiker is not listed in the invited bike clubs... i guess we're not recognized as a bike club yet...
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Post by clutchshooter on Aug 30, 2005 7:38:03 GMT 8
Nice discussion here! The more i wanna see the future of biking here... Hope the gov't will really implement such! Let's see and wait... hope our waiting... is not something like... waiting in vain...
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Post by plankton_dash on Aug 30, 2005 8:07:18 GMT 8
Ey guys I just watched from the news last sunday that DOH is agaisnt biking, they insists that biking is not "THE SOLUTION" to oil crisis, and its that biking here in the philippines is "BAD FOR YOUR HEALTH" whew! watcha sayin guys? WTF??? Well, maybe the DOH probably said this because of the noxious fumes along major thoroughfares & they're only looking out for our collective lungs' conditions...still, saying biking is BAD FOR YOUR HEALTH...& coming from a goverment entity at that...isn't it like equating it with smoking?
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Post by CyBoRG on Aug 30, 2005 8:29:51 GMT 8
Didn't they know that Metro Manila has worst pollution? Our lungs are already immune to what they had done! Corrupt enforcers and LTO.... Then this retarded DOH would say that its Bad for your health ;D Why dont he says its good to have a daily exercise but be sure everyone to use gas mask to prevent this. oo nga hehehe what they invited are mostly roadies Roadies are for old folks ;D tumatanda kang tignan hahaha MTBs are for teens ;D Cguro dahil pasaway ang mga PinoyMTBiker hehehe ;D Anyway he has stated "other groups that we were unable to invite are welcome, as long as they support the bike and pedal ways project,?Nacianceno added"
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Post by eiwol on Aug 30, 2005 9:02:28 GMT 8
it won't be bad for the health if there are less cars and more bikes... where is DOH's common sense?
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Post by zetasprobe on Aug 30, 2005 9:07:05 GMT 8
well I am just new in MTBking/ before as I can remember my father told me that a politician onece said "SA IKAKAASENSO NG BAYAN BISIKLETA ANG KAILANGAN" well the politician guy was sent to jail buy Marcos but he has a point right? Bikes does not use GAS which pollutes our soroundings/ it provides good and enjoyable exercise you can actualy go out doors and at the same time exercise ///// the down side of it is that its expensive just learn to control not to upgrade your bike that much or if you realy want to up-grade make sure that you have the money for it and you know where to look for the cheapest MTB parts
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Post by anthrax76 on Aug 30, 2005 9:30:14 GMT 8
we can't please anyone right? in which case, so what if DOH says it's not healty, at least we're saving for the nation right? now if only they could think of ways of greening the metro to lessen the pollution, in which case sir eiwol is right, less cars means less smoke
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Post by Ben Dover on Aug 30, 2005 9:30:54 GMT 8
well I am just new in MTBking/ before as I can remember my father told me that a politician onece said "SA IKAKAASENSO NG BAYAN BISIKLETA ANG KAILANGAN" well the politician guy was sent to jail buy Marcos but he has a point right? Bikes does not use GAS which pollutes our soroundings/ it provides good and enjoyable exercise you can actualy go out doors and at the same time exercise ///// the down side of it is that its expensive just learn to control not to upgrade your bike that much or if you realy want to up-grade make sure that you have the money for it and you know where to look for the cheapest MTB parts i think it was ariel ureta..the host comedian? my grandfather told me
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Post by Onie on Aug 30, 2005 9:38:09 GMT 8
i think it was ariel ureta..the host comedian? my grandfather told me Yeah, that's what my great grandfather told me too! Hehehehe! Kidding aside, it's Ariel Ureta, really! Cheers!
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Post by Ben Dover on Aug 30, 2005 9:44:18 GMT 8
DOH might have some points there but FGS we pinoy are always late...some countries have bike lanes already long before there were bikes hehe! (joke!) i mean long before any hint/or rumor of fossil fuel depletion..i believe it was never even considered...they have it (bike lanes) because they know they are needed...how stupid can we get? unbelievable!
may bike paths/lanes nga sa clark eh nuong araw pa..or was it subic? nakita ko yun i just cant remember san sa dalawa...ganun sila mag-isip.
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Post by Ben Dover on Aug 30, 2005 9:56:29 GMT 8
i think it was ariel ureta..the host comedian? my grandfather told me Yeah, that's what my great grandfather told me too! Hehehehe! Kidding aside, it's Ariel Ureta, really! Cheers! actually my grandfather's grandpa told him about it..it stops right here..hehe! wala ng maniniwala sa atin ;D
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Post by losiphile on Aug 30, 2005 10:08:52 GMT 8
Ey guys I just watched from the news last sunday that DOH is agaisnt biking, they insists that biking is not "THE SOLUTION" to oil crisis, and its that biking here in the philippines is "BAD FOR YOUR HEALTH" whew! watcha sayin guys? As if riding jeepneys and non airconditioned buses is not bad for the health!!! DOH boss should resign!!! Riding bikes is healthier because dehins ka mahahawa sa katabi mo sa public transport na dehins mo alam e maysakit pala!! Even Senator Flavier (former DOH boss ;D ;D) endorses biking! ;D ;D
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Post by whoopi on Aug 30, 2005 12:18:24 GMT 8
Alabang Cycling Club--andun ba si Don? e di baka we can tell Don na lang whatever we want to tell MMDA.
i have a suggestion for MMDA before they start building anything. maybe they can get their key people (read: planners and decision-makers) to actually try riding a bike around the metro say, for one week? at different times. nothing beats first-hand experience di ba.
i remember a news item in singapore once. the officials of their public works department actually went around on wheel chairs for one day so they could see how disabled-(un)friendly singapore is. they boarded the buses, went into restaurants, roamed the parks--on wheels. from what they experienced, they were able to effectively build ramps and what-have-yous for easy access by disabled citizens.
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Post by gilbs72 on Aug 30, 2005 17:41:23 GMT 8
Biking with a gas mask kaya? Biking can also be unhealthy if you get hit by a truck, jeep or car.
But seriously, malaki pa naman ang Metro Manila eh. Not everyone lives in downtown Pasay, Manila, etc. where internal-combustion-engines abound. I think those of us here who live in the boundaries like Muntinlupa, Las Pinas, Taguig, Marikina, etc. can still say they breath good air.
If true, I think it's not a very responsible blanket statement from the DOH. Of course, you should have a check-up and gradual phasing-in before biking full time--but that's a given like everything else (helmets, water bottles, etc.)
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Post by whoopi on Aug 30, 2005 19:30:11 GMT 8
May meeting daw tomorrow? Sino padala ng PinoyMTBiker? President Owen? hehehehe MMDA links up with bike groups for lane routes First posted 00:29am (Mla time) Aug 30, 2005 By Tarra V. Quismundo Inquirer News Service Editor's Note: Published on page A23 of the August 30, 2005 issue of the Philippine Daily Inquirer THE METROPOLITAN Manila Development Authority (MMDA) is set to meet with different bike groups Wednesday to exchange ideas regarding mapping out a viable interconnected bikeway for Metro Manila. At least five bike groups had been invited to the meeting to suggest bike routes for the agency’s Metro Bike and Pedal Ways Project, said MMDA general manager Robert Nacianceno. “We want to identify the routes for the bike lanes because some of the groups’ members bike to work and have already established their own routes. We’d like to know where these are,” he said. The integrated bike and pedestrian lanes project is aimed at providing safe bike lanes and walkways for Metro Manila’s bikers. The MMDA project also seeks to encourage Metro commuters to bike or walk short distances to save on transportation costs and adopt a healthy lifestyle. Invited were the Quezon City Cycling Club, the Greenhills Cycling Club, the Diosdado Macapagal Highway Cycling Club, the Alabang Cycling Club, and the Philippine Biking Association. “Even other groups that we were unable to invite are welcome, as long as they support the bike and pedal ways project,” Nacianceno added. The use of secondary roads as bikeways had been suggested earlier. here's a feed from NEWSGIRL77: for those interested to listen in (and maybe have a chance to have say) at the MMDA meeting with biking groups, you can drop by around lunchtime at the MMDA Office Bldg, Guadalupe, EDSA (halos across San Carlos Seminary), tel. nos. (trunk) 882-0916, (direct line) to MMDA GM Nacianceno 882-4151. may prepared lunch daw sa inviteds. sa mga dehins, oks lang, just show up for moral support.
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Post by Eikichi on Aug 30, 2005 21:56:26 GMT 8
Ey guys I just watched from the news last sunday that DOH is agaisnt biking, they insists that biking is not "THE SOLUTION" to oil crisis, and its that biking here in the philippines is "BAD FOR YOUR HEALTH" whew! watcha sayin guys? As if riding jeepneys and non airconditioned buses is not bad for the health!!! DOH boss should resign!!! Riding bikes is healthier because dehins ka mahahawa sa katabi mo sa public transport na dehins mo alam e maysakit pala!! Even Senator Flavier (former DOH boss ;D ;D) endorses biking! ;D ;D Hahahahahhaha amen to that brother so it means riding motorcycle and non airconditioned PUV's are also bad for your health?, so it means that they should encourage people not to ride these kind of transportation because "ITS BAD FOR YOUR HEALTH"!?!?!? maybe the DOH boss doesnt want to surrender his EXPEDITIon?!?!?! hehehehe or maybe ayaw nyang pawisan pag papunta nang work sira "PORMA" pag nagbibisikleta!!!!
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Post by coolangot ☺ on Aug 30, 2005 22:24:53 GMT 8
Since when should we believe the government? ;D
They tell me biking is dangerous to one's health... to hell with them!
I'll still ride my bike ;D
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Post by CyBoRG on Aug 31, 2005 9:30:12 GMT 8
Hahahaha he cant hide his secretary on expedition and do some miracle ;D ;D ;D
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Post by Great Teacher Ulysses on Aug 31, 2005 18:21:08 GMT 8
Para saan ang bike lanes? para ba sa bikers/riders/walkers? or para sa mga tarantadong motor at tsikot or probably baka pati jeeps & buses dumaan din dun???@!
Ini-IMAGE ko na kung paano ako makikipag-away sa mga dehins dapat gumamit ng bike lanes. Bwahaha!! Kailangan may baon lagin akong malaking BATO!! para takot sila pumasok sa BIKE LANE NATIN!!! Bwehehehek!!!
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Post by Great Teacher Ulysses on Aug 31, 2005 18:23:57 GMT 8
Salbahe ba? Think ahead. yes, maganda ang bike lanes kung Ire-RESPETO ng mga tao. but wait, PILIPINAS ito! ASA pa b ikaw?
ako, tayo may respeto sa mga riders/bikers.... pero sila WALA!!!
kaya ready na kayo....
Malapit na....
Ilang tulog na lang.....
may BIKE LANES na......
Dagdag SAKIT ng ULO!!!!
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Post by krx on Sept 2, 2005 0:39:49 GMT 8
Forum on Improving Pedestrian Facilities and Bikeways in Metro Manila - 6 September 1-6pm, Asian Development Bank-Auditorium A Baka po may interesado sa inyo. Isang forum para makinig at makipagkurokuro tungkol sa pagbibisikleta sa ciudad. The promotion of cycling and improved pedestrian access has resurfaced in Metro Manila in the past month. The Metropolitan Manila Development Authority (MMDA) has recently announced their plan to create a network of bikeways and footpaths in the metropolis. Other local government units have already adopted initiatives in improving pedestrian facilities in some areas, notable of which are initiatives undertaken by Makati City in improving its walkways and Manila City for closing some roads in favor of pedestrians, such as Avenida from Carriedo to Recto. A comprehensive bikeway network has been constructed in Marikina and in the process of further expansion. It is said to have enticed some 10,000-bike commuters daily. The provision of bikeways will entice commuters via public/ private transport to shift to cycling, especially to those people within comfortable cycling zones. On the other hand, improving pedestrian facilities and linking these to a systematic public transport system will greatly help commuters and entice private car users to use the public transport system. Reducing the use of private cars and increasing the public transport patronage will help alleviate traffic congestion and improve air quality. The Partnership for Clean Air (PCA), with support from the Asian Development Bank (ADB), the Clean Air Initiative for Asian Cities (CAI-Asia) and the Firefly Brigade, is organizing a forum on non-motorized transportation. The objective of the forum is to know more about the experiences and plans of these local government agencies and multilateral agencies on providing bikeways and improving pedestrian facilities in the metropolis. The forum will also provide an opportunity to discuss the difficulties and issues encountered by bike commuters in areas without bikeway facilities. It is hoped that by doing so, other stakeholders will be encouraged to participate and contribute to the implementation of such projects. The forum is open to mayors, city engineers/ planners, advocacy groups, academe, business community, and multilateral/bilateral stakeholders. Some of the key presentations in the forum include the following: • Sustainable Urban Transportation in Asian Cities: Experiences in providing bikeways and improving pedestrian access. • Metro Bike and Walk Ways Project by Ms. Corazon Cruz, Assistant General Manager, Metropolitan Manila Development Authority • Marikina Bikeways Network and Bike-to-Work Program by Ms. Carlota Contreras, Bikeways Officer, Marikina City Development Authority • Experience of Bike Commuters by Firefly Brigade • Experience of Makati CBD in improving and expanding pedestrian facilities by Mr. Salvador Tan, Ayala Land Inc. The discussion will be facilitated by Ms. Bebet Gozun, former secretary of the Department of Environment and Natural Resources and board member of PCA For further information and to confirm your attendance, contact either Ms. Aurora Ables at telephone no. 632-4444 local 70820 or Ms Agatha Diaz, at telephone no. 632-4444 local 70300; email: aables@adb.org or adiaz@adb.org. SEATS ARE LIMITED. Aurora Fe Ables Transport Researcher Clean Air Initiative for Asian Cities (CAI-Asia) Asian Development Bank Tel (632) 632-4444 ext. 70820 Fax (632) 636-2198 Email aables@adb.org www.cleanairnet.org/caiasia ricky p. parplay / potograpo
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Post by krx on Sept 2, 2005 0:45:26 GMT 8
Alabang Cycling Club--andun ba si Don? e di baka we can tell Don na lang whatever we want to tell MMDA. i have a suggestion for MMDA before they start building anything. maybe they can get their key people (read: planners and decision-makers) to actually try riding a bike around the metro say, for one week? at different times. nothing beats first-hand experience di ba. i remember a news item in singapore once. the officials of their public works department actually went around on wheel chairs for one day so they could see how disabled-(un)friendly singapore is. they boarded the buses, went into restaurants, roamed the parks--on wheels. from what they experienced, they were able to effectively build ramps and what-have-yous for easy access by disabled citizens. whoopi, The GM of MMDA, GM Nacancieno is an avid biker. If I heard correctly, he named two of his kids, Bianchi and Cinelli. He was also a bike commuter before joining government service kaya I think he knows the hassles of bike commuting in the metro. He asks for the support of all bikers to make the bikeways project work. kRx
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Post by vq querol on Sept 25, 2005 16:10:05 GMT 8
Her excellency PGMA has just opened Padyak Lanes QC Area of Katipunan Aurora. MMDA Chief BF has more in mind
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Post by bukoy on Sept 27, 2005 14:01:04 GMT 8
tuloy na tuloy na ang bike lane un nga lng sa QC sa Manila.... sooner or later, proposed budget i think mga around 200-300 million pesos that will run a 200km bike and walk lane for the whole metropolis, around 2010 tapos na lahat ng lanes....yeepeee a biker's dream come true.
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Post by vq querol on Oct 14, 2005 6:17:25 GMT 8
go chairman BF
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Post by RickShox on Dec 22, 2005 14:29:02 GMT 8
Have you actually seen the bike lanes in QC? Ganda ng idea pero mukhang mali ang implementation. Residential area na masisikip na kalye yung ibang pinaglagyan ng mga lanes. Kaya tuloy pinaparadahan ng mga residente yung lanes. MMDA should plan this thing well, huwag yung masabi lang na nakapaglagay ng bike lanes.
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