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Post by maxbuwaya on Nov 14, 2006 20:52:35 GMT 8
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Post by BrusKO on Nov 14, 2006 21:03:07 GMT 8
BOYCOTT SHIMANOS!!!!!
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Post by wcoastbo on Nov 19, 2006 8:48:17 GMT 8
Barbaric!!! Bastards!!
it's good to remember history and the atrocities one group of people can inflict on another. it's also good to recognize that cultures can change and learn from their mistakes. i'm glad japan no longer has the ambitions they had during WWII and are able to channel their collective talents for positive goals. they may have lost the military front, but sure are making inroads in the economic front.
i'm willing to forgive, but not forget. as horrible as those photos are, they have a purpose to keep reminding humankind of our mistakes.
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Post by Ben Dover on Feb 5, 2007 20:14:02 GMT 8
hmm...i dont know but i once read an article that states that more civilians were killed by the bombings done by the allied/american forces to manila to liberate it from the 16,000 japanese soldiers who were holding out in the city. almost all of those japanese were killed...100,000 filipino civilians too.
war indeed in not game of cricket...kinda reminds me of that movie by mel gibson The Patriot.
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Post by j0 on Feb 5, 2007 21:54:15 GMT 8
there is always a collateral damage in every war. That is why it is said there is no winner at all. Poor innocent civilians!
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Post by yukon on Feb 6, 2007 5:31:51 GMT 8
hmm...i dont know but i once read an article that states that more civilians were killed by the bombings done by the allied/american forces to manila to liberate it from the 16,000 japanese soldiers who were holding out in the city. almost all of those japanese were killed...100,000 filipino civilians too. war indeed in not game of cricket...kinda reminds me of that movie by mel gibson The Patriot. you're right tolits. as boy george would put it from my 80's era song "War war is stupid and people are stupid And love means nothing in some strange quarters War war is stupid and people are stupid And I heard them banging on hearts and fingers War!"
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soctrumbiker
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Post by soctrumbiker on Feb 6, 2007 6:30:43 GMT 8
We should thank our veterans Lolo...
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Post by polpan on Feb 12, 2007 13:05:49 GMT 8
how cruel the world was......
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trailblaster
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Post by trailblaster on Feb 12, 2007 14:44:42 GMT 8
id still say, battle to death! 'til you're making my country die!
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Post by rednose on Jun 13, 2007 0:07:53 GMT 8
let us never forget what our vets did during that time. I salute them.
happy birthday philippines!
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Post by wcoastbo on Jun 14, 2007 4:44:49 GMT 8
how cruel the world was...... ... and still is. as one culture/nation learns to become more civilized, it seems others regress and commit the same old atrocities. I bet, with a little research, one could come up with similar photos of recent mass murders on a similar scale. it's unfortunate, but I don't think humans have yet learned how to be civilized. the Star Trek future of a Utopian Earth has yet to materialize.
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Post by kulot_salot on Jun 14, 2007 8:09:05 GMT 8
hmm...i dont know but i once read an article that states that more civilians were killed by the bombings done by the allied/american forces to manila to liberate it from the 16,000 japanese soldiers who were holding out in the city. almost all of those japanese were killed...100,000 filipino civilians too. BOYCOTT SRAM!!!! ;D
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Post by alien_scream on Jun 14, 2007 16:28:47 GMT 8
one thing is for sure!!!!! in war there is no clear winners!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by marcs on Jun 14, 2007 17:08:55 GMT 8
Of course there are . . . the profiteers.
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Post by alien_scream on Jun 14, 2007 17:53:53 GMT 8
Of course there are . . . the profiteers. ARMS DEALERS!!!!!!! hehehehehehhe!!! and the no.1 arms dealer in the world is USA!!!!!!!!!
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Post by kulot_salot on Jun 14, 2007 18:15:57 GMT 8
Of course there are . . . the profiteers. ARMS DEALERS!!!!!!! hehehehehehhe!!! and the no.1 arms dealer in the world is USA!!!!!!!!! BOYCOTT SRAM!!! hehehehe... kulit ko. ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by ice on Jun 21, 2007 18:01:35 GMT 8
ei, before the shimano boycott hahaha.... i heard the korean conscripts and mercs employed by the imperial jap army during ww2 were more cruel and merciless than their nipongo counterparts. most of the rapes, and killings were accounted to them in fact. curahee!
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Post by grnhrnt on Jun 21, 2007 22:08:53 GMT 8
hey Ice, what the Fu*K does "curahee" mean? You have it on all your posts. I am so intrigued (annoyed actually hahahaha... joke) by it that I googled it to find out. The only results I got was that it was the title of the 1st episode of the Band of Brothers serial. So, is that what you mean by it that we are a band of brothers in biking? Also, incidentally the correct spelling is "currahee".
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Post by Alphabolt on Jun 21, 2007 22:38:39 GMT 8
hey Ice, what the Fu*K does "curahee" mean? You have it on all your posts. I am so intrigued (annoyed actually hahahaha... joke) by it that I googled it to find out. The only results I got was that it was the title of the 1st episode of the Band of Brothers serial. So, is that what you mean by it that we are a band of brothers in biking? Also, incidentally the correct spelling is "currahee". Ramon, and here I was ...wondering where I heard that all this time...BoB pala ...sigh I thought I was too old to know that slang ...ummm I guess I am ;D I love that show "cure ihi !!" sounds right
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Post by busta on Jun 22, 2007 2:21:09 GMT 8
Very sad part of our nations history....Thanks who open this up!!!!
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Post by ice on Jun 22, 2007 8:04:51 GMT 8
hey Ice, what the Fu*K does "curahee" mean? You have it on all your posts. I am so intrigued (annoyed actually hahahaha... joke) by it that I googled it to find out. The only results I got was that it was the title of the 1st episode of the Band of Brothers serial. So, is that what you mean by it that we are a band of brothers in biking? Also, incidentally the correct spelling is "currahee". ei, grnhrnt! so, u really wanna know what curahee means? it's the mountain located in taccoa, georgia where the officers and men of the pioneering 506th parachute infrantry regiment trained prior the invasion of normandy in ww2. 3 miles up, 3 miles down. the men especially those belonging to easy company of the 506th's 2nd batallion trained rigorously day in and day out, that curahee became the regiment's motto. curahee, translated from apache to english, means " we stand alone together. (kinda "barok" translation since the apaches translated it literally word for word, but what it actually means is "we stand together as one". if you wanna really know more indepthly how the apaches came up with naming the mountain curahee, i have a whole powerpoint presentation that i can share with you which was presented in one of our pcga meetings. to find out more, read stephen ambrose's band of brothers.... curahee!
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Post by maxbuwaya on Jun 22, 2007 9:15:44 GMT 8
Very sad part of our nations history....Thanks who open this up!!!! So we will never forget. and of course learn something from it
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Post by grnhrnt on Jun 26, 2007 16:30:01 GMT 8
Yo Ice!
Curahee!
Regards
Ramon
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Post by ussprinceton2004 on Aug 16, 2007 6:23:04 GMT 8
BOYCOTT SRAM!!!
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Post by kulot_salot on Aug 23, 2007 9:33:38 GMT 8
General Tomoyuki Yamashita at his trial in Manila, November 1945 Following the Supreme Court decision, an appeal for clemency was made to President Truman. The President, however, declined to act and thereby left the matter entirely in the hands of the military. In due time, General MacArthur announced that he had confirmed the sentence of the Commission and on February 23, 1946, at Los Banos Prison Camp, 30 miles south of Manila, Tomoyuki Yamashita was hanged.
Battle of the Sibuyan Sea, 24 October 1944. Yamato is hit by a bomb near her forward 460 mm gun turret, during attacks by U.S. carrier planes as she transited the Sibuyan Sea. This hit did not produce serious damage.
Yamato moments after exploding
The U.S. Navy launched 386 aircraft to intercept the task force, and the planes engaged the ships starting at 12:30 that afternoon. Yamato took 8 bombs and 12 torpedo hits before, at about 14:23, she capsized to port and her aft magazines detonated. She sank while still some 200 km from Okinawa. Of her crew 2,475 were lost, and the 269 survivors were picked up by the escorting destroyers. Some reports claim that a number of survivors were machine-gunned in the water by U.S. aircraft. Other Japanese survivors reported that U.S. aircraft temporarily halted their attacks on the Japanese destroyers during the time that the destroyers were busy picking up survivors from the water.
Naval gunfire took no part in the Yamato's demise. The sinking of the world's largest battleship by aircraft alone confirmed the lessons learned at Taranto and Pearl Harbor, by the sinking of the Prince of Wales and Repulse, and by the sinking of Yamato's sister ship Musashi: the battleship had been supplanted by the aircraft carrier as queen of the sea and the capital ship of any fleet.
Unlike sister ship Musashi in the Sibuyan Sea, the Yamato had no air cover for the mission, nor did she have many escorts. All of the officers and crew assumed that it would be the Yamato's last voyage; few if any believed that it was unsinkable as air power was the dominant weapon in the Pacific. On the Yamato's final evening, as it was expected that the US carrier planes would attack the next morning, the officers allowed or even ordered the crew to indulge in sake.
At about 0830 hours on 7 April 1945, United States fighter planes were launched to pinpoint the location of the Japanese task force. By 1000 hours, the Yamato's radar picked up the US planes and a state of battle readiness was commanded. Within seven minutes all doors, hatches and ventilators were closed, and battle stations were fully manned. The super battleship was ready for the coming fury.
Planes from the carrier Hornet joined the strike force from Bennington. Bennington's VB-82, led by Lieutenant Commander Hugh Wood, was flying at 20,000 ft (6,000 m) in heavy clouds on the bearing to intercept the ships. Although the radar indicated they were very close, the pilots were startled when they realized they were directly above the Japanese task force and within range of anti-aircraft fire. Lieutenant Commander Wood immediately pushed his Helldiver into the clouds and made a sharp left turn, commencing their attack. Wood's wingman was unable to stay with the formation, leaving Lieutenant (jg) Francis R. Ferry and Lieutenant (jg) Edward A. Sieber to follow Wood into the first strike on the Yamato.
The dives began at 20,000 ft directly over the Yamato, bearing from stern to bow. Bombs were released at an altitude of less than about 1,500 ft (500 m). The dives were made as close to a 90-degree angle as possible to avoid most anti-aircraft guns. Each of the three planes released eight five-inch rockets; two-armor piercing bombs and bursts of 20 mm machine gun fire. Lt. (jg) Ferry remembers that "at this distance a miss was impossible". The first two bombs dropped by Lt. Commander Wood hit on the starboard side of the weather deck, knocking out several of the 25 mm machine guns and the high-angle gun turret and ripping a hole in the flying deck. Seconds later came the two bombs from Lt. (jg) Ferry, destroying secondary battery fire control station as they blew through the flying deck, and starting a fire that was never extinguished. This fire continued to spread and is believed to have caused the explosion of the main ammunition magazine as the Yamato capsized some two hours later. Hot on Ferry's tail was Lt. (jg) Sieber, delivering two bomb hits forward of the island, ripping more holes in the decks in the vicinity of the number three main gun turret.
The torpedo plane pilots were ordered to aim for the parts of the Yamato's hull unprotected by her torpedo defense system: the bow and stern. They were also told to attack her on one side only, so that she would capsize. Within minutes of the Helldivers' bombing, the Yamato suffered three torpedo hits to her port side and began listing.
Over the next two hours, two more attacks would be launched, pounding the Yamato with torpedoes and bombs. Attempts of counter-flooding failed, and shortly after 1400 hours, the commanding officer gave the word to prepare to abandon ship. As the ship listed beyond a 90-degree angle and began sinking, a gigantic explosion of the stern ammunition magazines tore the ship apart. The huge mushroom of fire and smoke exploded almost four miles into the air and the fire was seen by sentries 125 miles away in Kagoshima prefecture on Kyushu, the southernmost of Japan's four main islands. Only 280 of the Yamato 2,778-man crew were rescued from the sinking ship. Japanese survivors reported that U.S. aircraft temporarily halted their attacks on the Japanese destroyers during the time that the destroyers were busy picking up survivors from the water. The end had come for the Yamato, foreshadowing the coming end of the Imperial Japanese Military.
The wreckage lies in around 300 meters of water and was surveyed in 1985 and 1999. These surveys show the hull to be in two pieces with the break occurring in the area of the second ('B') main turret.
Musashi under attack at the Battle of the Sibuyan Sea, 24 October 1944.
She formed part of Vice-Admiral Takeo Kurita's Centre Force along with Yamato at the Battle of Leyte Gulf. During this battle on 24 October 1944, she was attacked in the Sibuyan Sea by American carrier-based aircraft: first at 10:27 AM by eight SB2C Helldiver dive bombers from the USS Intrepid armed with 500-lb (227 kg) bombs. Wave after wave of American aircraft from the USS Intrepid, Essex and Lexington eventually scored 17 bomb and 20 torpedo hits and 18 near misses. Most of the ship's destruction was due to David S. McCampbell and Air Group 15. The Musashi capsized to port, and sank at 7:25 PM on October 24, taking more than 1000 of her 2399 crew with her; 1376 of the crew were rescued by the destroyers Kiyoshimo and Shimakaze. That battle was the only time that the Mushashi had fired her guns in anger, using the "San Shiki" (the Beehive) Model 13 anti-aircraft shell.
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bocoycoy
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Post by bocoycoy on Aug 23, 2007 9:56:29 GMT 8
fight till death?! hmmp...
sometimes, i can't imagine fighting till death for this stupid country nowadays...
look at those idiots in the power, they don't even look back...
they don't have the sense of history...
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Post by kulot_salot on Aug 23, 2007 10:15:08 GMT 8
The mushroom cloud over Hiroshima after the dropping of Little Boy.
The Fat Man mushroom cloud resulting from the nuclear explosion over Nagasaki rises 18 km (11 mi, 60,000 ft) into the air from the hypocenter.
Hiroshima, in the aftermath of the bombing.
Seizo Yamada's ground level photo taken from approximately 7km NE of Hiroshima
Urakami Tenshudo (Catholic Church in Nagasaki) in January, 1946, destroyed by the atomic bomb, the dome of the church having toppled off.
Nagasaki before and after bombing.
A Japanese report on the bombing characterized Nagasaki as "like a graveyard with not a tombstone standing."
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Post by Ben Dover on Aug 23, 2007 11:19:28 GMT 8
and they thought they gonna rule the earth.
empires rise and fall...this world has a way of maintaining its own balance.
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maki
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Post by maki on Oct 2, 2007 22:12:21 GMT 8
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Post by wcoastbo on Oct 6, 2007 18:20:55 GMT 8
interesting pics kulot.
For all the talk and effort the US is putting into the stopping of nuclear weapons technology, isn't it ironic that the biggest proponent of non-proliferation is the only one to have used a nuclear weapon on another country? and has the most nuclear weapons. the stockpile has been reduced, but are such weapons necessary when there is but one superpower and the cold war over. We're pointing all our nukes at whom nowadays?
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