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Post by eiwol on Sept 26, 2005 5:35:34 GMT 8
Dunno really but if Einstein had his own equation. Well, perhaps, God Himself has His own too for us to apply in our daily lives. Presumably, something close to being like: Faith + Good works = S a l v a t i o n. Then maybe, we could somehow feel comfy about armaggedon. Still I'll keep on fidgeting as I wait for my "time". Well, let's all enjoy life first. Live life to the fullest! correction: please read John 14:6 ÜÜÜ
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Post by minotaur on Sept 26, 2005 8:25:04 GMT 8
The largests military power in the world matatakot sa China? The last remaining super power? I think the next great war will not be a military war between super powers but rather an economic war. I think that's why the Americans are keeping a close watch on Chinas' economic boom.
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Post by minotaur on Sept 26, 2005 8:30:55 GMT 8
Dunno really but if Einstein had his own equation. Well, perhaps, God Himself has His own too for us to apply in our daily lives. Presumably, something close to being like: Faith + Good works = S a l v a t i o n. Then maybe, we could somehow feel comfy about armaggedon. Still I'll keep on fidgeting as I wait for my "time". Well, let's all enjoy life first. Live life to the fullest! If one believes that everything in the universe is determined then it doesn't matter wether that determinism is due to an omnipotent god or the laws of science, indeed one could always say that the laws of science are the expressions of the will of God. Stephen Hawkins, Physicist Yes, God does not play with dice.
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Post by micosabeh on Sept 26, 2005 8:57:40 GMT 8
Dunno really but if Einstein had his own equation. Well, perhaps, God Himself has His own too for us to apply in our daily lives. Presumably, something close to being like: Faith + Good works = S a l v a t i o n. Then maybe, we could somehow feel comfy about armaggedon. Still I'll keep on fidgeting as I wait for my "time". Well, let's all enjoy life first. Live life to the fullest! If one believs that everything in the universe is determined then it doesn't matter wether that determinism is due to an omnipotent god or the laws of science, indeed one could always say that the laws of science are the expressions of the will of God. Stephen Hawkins, Physicist Yes, God does not play with dice. yap, God does not play with dice b'coz it is all written in the book of life by the "hand" and all the words that written in the book of life should be done... mangyayari ang dpat mangyari, yun ang nkasulat
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Post by basti on Sept 26, 2005 9:04:15 GMT 8
want to share this...i have receive this e-mail a couple of times...so i might share it to all...
Implantable Chips Ahoy Bill Berkowitz WorkingForChange
With Digital Angel promoting livestock trackers In wake of Mad Cow disease, the post-9/11 political climate is making implantable microchips like the VeriChip socially palatable. Prophecy analyst Tom Horn of Raiders News Update is quoted extensively on the subject by secular news sources.
'Mark of the beast' or sign of the times?
It's no bigger than a grain of ricecor maybe a rice krispie. It is inserted subcutaneously and activated by the sweep of a special laser wand. Welcome to America in the age of the permanent "war on terrorism" where there's always someone coming up with a better idea to diminish civil liberties. The VeriChip implant comes your way courtesy of Applied Digital Systems. I was visiting some old friends the other afternoon when I was given a tip: Travis told me to be on the lookout for a chip that would contain an individual's personal data and once implanted, it would be capable of tracking their physical location. Now, I wasn't born yesterday; while this thing sounded plausible I figured he'd read about it in some futuristic scientific journal.
Later, I went home, switched on the computer and checked out The Oread Daily, one of my favorite reads. Lo and behold, editor Randy Gould featured a story headlined "Verchip: Don't Leave Home Without One," which described in detail a new implantable device coming down the pike at breakneck speed.
According to several other published reports, the Palm Beach, Florida chipmaker, Applied Digital Solutions, Inc., announced that the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) found that the VeriChip was not a regulated medical device: This clears the way for the company to begin marketing, sales and distribution of VeriChip in the United States within the next few months.
"If they put medical records in, we would be concerned about the use," the FDA's medical device chief Dr. David Feigal was quoted in the Washington Post. Feigal also made it clear that the agency could step in at that point. "If someone is unconscious in an emergency room and implanted medical records are outdated, that could be more dangerous than if doctors had no information." Feigal urged companies considering health-related implants to consult with the FDA.
According to the Oread Daily, "each VeriChip is composed of FDA-accepted materials and contains a unique verification number. That number is captured by briefly passing a proprietary, external scanner over the VeriChip. A small amount of radio frequency energy passes through the skin energizing the dormant VeriChip, which then emits a radio frequency signal transmitting the verification number."
Chipping in for the 'war on terrorism'
On its website Applied Digital Systems describes how the VeriChip addresses current security concerns: "Personal identity verification technology has gained considerable interest recently. A great deal of focus has been trained on so-called 'biometric' technologies which identify individuals by their unique biological or physical characteristics, such as fingerprints, voiceprints, retina characteristics, and face recognition points. VeriChip, by contrast, relies on imbedded, tamper-proof, microchip technology, which allows for non-invasive access to identification, medical and other critical data. Use of advanced VeriChip technology means that the threat of theft, loss, duplication or counterfeiting of data is substantially diminished or eliminated. Specific application areas include: enhancement of present forms of identification, various law enforcement and defense uses and search and rescue."
According to a Wired.com report, "In South America, the device has been bundled with a GPS-unit and sold to potential kidnapping victims." For now, the company is claiming that the VeriChip's most immediate use will be for people with certain medical conditions, and for workers in need of top security clearance. The information that the chip is capable of carrying is boundless.
The VeriChip is expected to sell for about $200. The company hasn't decided yet if it will sell or distribute the 125-KHz chip scanner to hospitals at no cost. The scanner is expected to cost between $1,000 and $3,000.
Bar codes 'r' us
Applied Digital Solutions, Inc., established in 1993, describes itself as "an advanced digital technology development company that focuses on a range of early warning alert, miniaturized power sources and security monitoring systems combined with the comprehensive data management services required to support them. Through its Advanced Wireless unit, the Company specializes in security-related data collection, value-added data intelligence and complex data delivery systems for a wide variety of end users including commercial operations, government agencies and consumers."
The post-9/11 political climate makes the use of something like the VeriChip more acceptable. The Oread Daily's Gould is concerned that the device "could also be used to keep track of dissidents and other such troublemakers."
Others are raising questions about the VeriChip. The Los Angeles Times reported that Applied Digital officials say that while implantable chips have been denounced by those who object on religious and other grounds, those objections have decreased in the wake of 9/11. As Keith Bolton, the company's chief technology officer, put it, 'When people are trying to regain their peace of mind, they're open to new approaches.'"
In a late-March article posted at WorldNetDaily, a conservative online news site, reporter Sherrie Gossett raised more questions about the future of implantable chips. Titled "'Digital Angel' lands in China: Will implantable tracking chips be used by totalitarian government?" Gossett's article claims the "manufacturer and marketer of high-tech, implantable devices for tracking human beings has opened a research and development facility in Shen Zhen, a special economic zone near Hong Kong, hoping to cash in on vast markets in China and the Far East."
'Mark of the beast'
Last year, Gossett writes, Digital Angel "deflected criticism from privacy advocates and Christians concerned over biblical prophesy by removing all references to human implantation from its website and literature, only to re-introduce human implantation -- with a product called VeriChip - after Sept. 11, due to the nation's new preoccupation with security."
According to AgapePress, a Christian daily news service, "Many Bible prophecy watchers are keeping a close eye on this development. It appears to be a direct correlation to the teaching in Revelation about the mark that Anti-Christ will require all to have during the tribulation period."
What does this mean for some Christians? Tom Horn, editor of Raiders News Update, explains that implantable devices could usher in an "antiChrist system" called the "New World Order, under which national boundaries dissolve, and ethnic groups, ideologies, religions, and economics from around the world, orchestrate a single and dominant sovereignty." This one-world government will destroy or imprison those who do not go along with it. "The Antichrist's widespread power will be derived at the expense of individual human liberties."
Horn claims Nelson Rockefeller first issued a call for a "New World Order," later to be followed by President Jimmy Carter, and then during the Gulf War by George Bush who declared that a "New World Order" had arrived. Horn: "Developers of biometric implant chips employ similar language in announcing compatible global technologies, and many Americans consider electronically marking humans or implanting a series of digital equations under the skin to be the natural progress of advancing and necessary technologies."
Horn says that implantable microchips manufacturers "claim the procedure will be voluntary at first." Elaine M. Ramish of the Franklin Pierce Law Center is concerned about a national identification system via microchip implants that "could be achieved in two stages: Upon introduction as a voluntary system, the microchip implantation will appear to be palatable. After there is a familiarity with the procedure and a knowledge of its benefits, implantation would be mandatory."
All of these concerns could make for strange bedfellows as civil liberties organizations, libertarian groups and Christian true believers may form a front-line alliance against Big Brother's implantable microchips.
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Post by Ben Dover on Sept 26, 2005 9:13:17 GMT 8
my final take on the subject...the world will eventually end..the bible and science point to it...in the the bible as i said before and expounded further by another post its already written...in science..well nothing lasts forever its that simple...wether due to our own stupidity (nuclear or bilogical war and other man made catastrophe) or by natural course it will. just like other stars in the sky our sun is a ball of energy thats slowly spending itself to give off light...each day the sun is getting smaller and from what i read parang few kilometers...now how are we gonna stop that? the eventual collapse of our sun may not come in millions or billions of years but it will surely come...without the sun no life on earth can survive..not even a bacteria.. (note: some studies nagsasabi lalong umiinit at lumalaki ang araw but whatever) ang malupit the sun has a big factor in climatic changes on earth..maliit na pagbabago sa araw apektado tayo kaya bago maubos o lalong uminit yan malamang wala na tayo.. in case youre interested in stellar evolution : www.spaceweather.noaa.gov/Curric_7-12/Chapter_1.pdf#search='Rate%20The%20Sun%20Getting%20Smaller' ps: ei whoopi baka magalit ang bon jovi
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Post by whoopi on Sept 26, 2005 11:42:55 GMT 8
ps: ei whoopi baka magalit ang bon jovi *whoopi hangs her head in shame*
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Post by anthrax76 on Sept 26, 2005 17:14:03 GMT 8
Google it It's the end of the world (as we know it) by R.E.M.
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Post by hingal aso on Sept 26, 2005 18:08:27 GMT 8
Sabi nga sa Star Trek....
SPACE..... THE FINAL FRONTIER
Space colonies....... Mars first.... then beyond the solar system.
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Post by Onie on Sept 26, 2005 18:11:46 GMT 8
Chapter 3, Verse 16 of the Gospel of John...
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Post by hingal aso on Sept 26, 2005 18:14:25 GMT 8
Implantable Chips Ahoy Bill Berkowitz WorkingForChange Arowanas (the fish) are impanted with chips for several reasons with no harm to them. I would think that sooner or later the same will be done to every living person. Everyone will have a digital identity. Computer engineers, programers and hackers.... celebrate....the power will be in your hands.
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Post by hingal aso on Sept 26, 2005 18:26:58 GMT 8
Yes, God does not play with dice. God gave man"FREE WILL" which seperates us with all living and sentient beings. Animals have no free will..... Angels, Archangels, Cherubims, Seraphims, and all those beings who serve God have no "FREE WILL", only man. You and every other person can change the world by virtue of your free will. If God tells you to go to church..... then its is up to you to obey his command or not. Although he can control your thoughts/mind, he choose not too. But of course he uses everything in this world to influence you to do the right thing...... but you can always choose not to. So if God does not play with the dice... then he sure has a very big trust on humans.
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Post by hingal aso on Sept 26, 2005 18:28:55 GMT 8
Pasensya na......
I like this topic.......
I think I was a philospher in my "before"life.
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Post by minotaur on Sept 26, 2005 19:20:38 GMT 8
Implantable Chips Ahoy Bill Berkowitz WorkingForChange Arowanas (the fish) are impanted with chips for several reasons with no harm to them. I would think that sooner or later the same will be done to every living person. Everyone will have a digital identity. Computer engineers, programers and hackers.... celebrate....the power will be in your hands. I think the same technology is currently being applied in Mt bikes in some European countries. Although its still an optional feature when you purchase high end bikes.
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Post by allegra on Sept 26, 2005 21:04:10 GMT 8
The largests military power in the world matatakot sa China? The last remaining super power? I think the next great war will not be a military war between super powers but rather an economic war. I think that's why the Americans are keeping a close watch on Chinas' economic boom. I'm a member of another forum , American puro ultra right wing Their attitude is "80's economic powerhouse Japan couldnt do it , China wont either "
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Post by jr on Sept 26, 2005 21:36:19 GMT 8
I think the next great war will not be a military war between super powers but rather an economic war. I think that's why the Americans are keeping a close watch on Chinas' economic boom. I'm a member of another forum , American puro ultra right wing Their attitude is "80's economic powerhouse Japan couldnt do it , China wont either " I agree.. America still control the whole thing. Look at whats the number consumer in the world and what China number one consumer? US. In my opinion human is the cause to kill this world (we are the worm)..from pollution to illegal loggings. The Ozone is clearly getting bigger and the water rises in the last decade and nature disaster are getting stronger and the other one if the SUN will no longer exist.
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Post by coolangot ☺ on Sept 26, 2005 22:07:28 GMT 8
US is afraid of China... Imagine billions of kulangots ;D Nah, I think man(the human race) will not see the end of the world. Lets see, what are the possible scenarios that the end of the world will come. 1) A big matter like an asteroid or a comet will hit the earth thereby destroying it. 2) The Sun will turn into a red giant then engulf the Earth. I think (I might be wrong) the mass of the sun will not make if into a blackhole, but rather into a red giant when it has depleted all its fuel. 3) Due to the big bang, the universe is still expanding, therefore there will come a point of collapse. Scenario 1, You need a large enough matter to destroy the Earth. Or a large enough matter with enough momentum. Scenarios 2 & 3, Don't worry guys, It's still billions of years. heh heh The end of man is not the same as the end of the world.
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Post by allegra on Sept 26, 2005 22:12:01 GMT 8
Anybody read " The Hot Zone"? It's aboput the history of the ebola virus plus , there's this new strain of ebola found on a batch of monkeys at the Center for Disease Control in the US. Nagkagulo mga Kano , na quarantine ung buong facility and the place was shut down But what scared the $#$% out of me , was that these monkeys came from the PI as in Philippine Islands and just when I thought it couldnt get f#$%^n worse , it came from a monkey farm 13 km from where I'm typing right now I even checked kung fiction yung book, nope , it's true Probably the DENR sec liked to read too , kasi the facility was closed down after the book came out. The monkeys were killed , according to the farm handlers , by "stomping on them" Hahaha iba talaga ang masasamang damo
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Post by coolangot ☺ on Sept 26, 2005 22:18:07 GMT 8
Anybody read " The Hot Zone"? It's aboput the history of the ebola virus plus , there's this new strain of ebola found on a batch of monkeys at the Center for Disease Control in the US. Nagkagulo mga Kano , na quarantine ung buong facility and the place was shut down But what scared the $#$% out of me , was that these monkeys came from the PI as in Philippine Islands and just when I thought it couldnt get f#$%^n worse , it came from a monkey farm 13 km from where I'm typing right now I even checked kung fiction yung book, nope , it's true Probably the DENR sec liked to read too , kasi the facility was closed down after the book came out. The monkeys were killed , according to the farm handlers , by "stomping on them" Hahaha iba talaga ang masasamang damo Yeah I heard those monkeys are from Calamba?(or somewhere near that place) I heard one of the handlers had been infected with a non-virulent strain of ebola.
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Post by allegra on Sept 26, 2005 22:22:07 GMT 8
Anybody read " The Hot Zone"? It's aboput the history of the ebola virus plus , there's this new strain of ebola found on a batch of monkeys at the Center for Disease Control in the US. Nagkagulo mga Kano , na quarantine ung buong facility and the place was shut down But what scared the $#$% out of me , was that these monkeys came from the PI as in Philippine Islands and just when I thought it couldnt get f#$%^n worse , it came from a monkey farm 13 km from where I'm typing right now I even checked kung fiction yung book, nope , it's true Probably the DENR sec liked to read too , kasi the facility was closed down after the book came out. The monkeys were killed , according to the farm handlers , by "stomping on them" Hahaha iba talaga ang masasamang damo Yeah I heard those monkeys are from Calamba?(or somewhere near that place) I heard one of the handlers had been infected with a non-virulent strain of ebola. bka may lahing unggoy siya macaqua fascicularis - philippine monkey
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Post by whoopi on Sept 26, 2005 22:26:57 GMT 8
i read that ALLEGRA. but what i remember is the ebola strain that was found in the philippine monkeys was not the same as the ones that killed many people in africa. for some reason, ours was not fatal to humans. parang nilagnat lang yung isang handler and then gumaling din?
i can't remember the exact words, but richard preston wrote there that in the same way that the human body automatically responds to invasive agents like viruses by trying to kill it, he says maybe humans are the viruses in nature (because of our destructiveness and all), and so nature is lashing out by using these deadly viruses to get rid of us.
one way or the other something's gonna get us.
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Post by jr on Sept 26, 2005 22:43:46 GMT 8
How about the change of gravitational pole. Its been long overdue. Would you imagine if the pole didn't go as a plan this mean the earth is going to stop rotating and will end toast. One movie came out of this..called CORE. Lets all forget this and and enjoy every precious minutes. Ride lang ng ride .
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Post by allegra on Sept 26, 2005 23:31:18 GMT 8
i read that ALLEGRA. but what i remember is the ebola strain that was found in the philippine monkeys was not the same as the ones that killed many people in africa. for some reason, ours was not fatal to humans. parang nilagnat lang yung isang handler and then gumaling din? i can't remember the exact words, but richard preston wrote there that in the same way that the human body automatically responds to invasive agents like viruses by trying to kill it, he says maybe humans are the viruses in nature (because of our destructiveness and all), and so nature is lashing out by using these deadly viruses to get rid of us. one way or the other something's gonna get us. Yes, it wasnt fatal sa humans I just didnt say it kasi mawawala ang shock value ng post ko Kala ko kasi , ako lang naka-basa eh
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Post by anthrax76 on Sept 27, 2005 9:12:39 GMT 8
Arowanas (the fish) are impanted with chips for several reasons with no harm to them. I would think that sooner or later the same will be done to every living person. Everyone will have a digital identity. Computer engineers, programers and hackers.... celebrate....the power will be in your hands. a friend of mine from finland, who stayed here, wanted to take her 2 street cats to europe. she had to make sure of all the vaccines and the cats were also implanted with chips when they entered EU, no harm, just tracking maybe. oh yeah, there was a rumor that Kris Aquino has a chip on her right hand. this is just a rumor....
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Post by whoopi on Sept 27, 2005 12:05:01 GMT 8
Yes, it wasnt fatal sa humans I just didnt say it kasi mawawala ang shock value ng post ko Kala ko kasi , ako lang naka-basa eh sneaky sonofagun talaga! oh yeah, there was a rumor that Kris Aquino has a chip on her right hand. this is just a rumor.... eherm, what was it for daw?
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Post by maxbuwaya on Sept 27, 2005 12:44:24 GMT 8
sa ain din nilgayan ng implant na petroluem jelly yung mga preso.
hmmm para madaling marecognize sa crowd.
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Post by anthrax76 on Sept 27, 2005 14:52:29 GMT 8
oh yeah, there was a rumor that Kris Aquino has a chip on her right hand. this is just a rumor.... eherm, what was it for daw? i read it somewhere, same research by Dr. Sanders. same flow btw, the Mark of the Beast. the biochip was some sort of mark so you have some sort of access to: 1) cashless society: just scan the chip, bingo! your purchases will be deducted to your bank account or charge to your card. 2) establishments: the author compared it to makro, unless you have a card issued by them, you can't buy from them.
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Post by hingal aso on Sept 27, 2005 15:48:57 GMT 8
i read that ALLEGRA. but what i remember is the ebola strain that was found in the philippine monkeys was not the same as the ones that killed many people in africa. for some reason, ours was not fatal to humans. parang nilagnat lang yung isang handler and then gumaling din? It like in the movie "War of the Worlds." The alien invaders succumbed to the simple micro-parasites that we humans have developed natural immunity to it. Maybe the Filipinos have been exposed very very long time ago to this ebola strain that we have developed a natural anti-germ for it. Whereas them Americans has no natural resistance to it yet.
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Post by marcs on Sept 27, 2005 16:15:23 GMT 8
Yeah di ba wa epek SARS dito? And Singapore and Hong Kong was hard hit? maybe it's coz they're too clean that they're losing their immunity to certain diseases . . . ;D Hmmmm, all that mud and dirt from Maarat on my skin must be doing me some good . . . . hehehehe i read that ALLEGRA. but what i remember is the ebola strain that was found in the philippine monkeys was not the same as the ones that killed many people in africa. for some reason, ours was not fatal to humans. parang nilagnat lang yung isang handler and then gumaling din? It like in the movie "War of the Worlds." The alien invaders succumbed to the simple micro-parasites that we humans have developed natural immunity to it. Maybe the Filipinos have been exposed very very long time ago to this ebola strain that we have developed a natural anti-germ for it. Whereas them Americans has no natural resistance to it yet.
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Post by marcs on Sept 27, 2005 16:17:09 GMT 8
as for the End of the World, doesn't the third or fourth or whatever law of therymodynamics states that the universe is headed towards entrophy or something? like although energy is constant, whenever it is used it loses some quality, until eventually it becomes unusable and the entire universe just grinds to a halt . . .
so i guess the world will end with a soft whimper
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