The Independent Cyclist
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Post by The Independent Cyclist on Apr 22, 2007 2:23:41 GMT 8
well for me single speed are use in trials and not for commuters like i do. people prefer to use single speed because like every body said earlier, SIMPLICITY. unlike multi speed, single speed are best use in stunts and street jumps. for commuters like me. i prefer multi speed. it make me choose what gear i like during my commute to work. i also like to build a single speed. in fact i built one which is the easy rider. for leisure only not to be use in commuting
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Post by Dragunov on Apr 22, 2007 2:37:27 GMT 8
well for me single speed are use in trials and not for commuters like i do. people prefer to use single speed because like every body said earlier, SIMPLICITY. unlike multi speed, single speed are best use in stunts and street jumps. for commuters like me. i prefer multi speed. it make me choose what gear i like during my commute to work. i also like to build a single speed. in fact i built one which is the easy rider. for leisure only not to be use in commuting right on! brad
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Post by whoopi on Apr 24, 2007 12:52:15 GMT 8
you said it BO, i see it as a commitment to go SS. it's not because you'll give up other riding styles, but because you won't give up on SS when the going gets tough. some weekends i ride without shifting and i don't cheat. i decide at the beginning of the ride if i'm going to use the gears or not and i stick to the choice. when i couldn't climb, i'd push. my co-riders thought i was crazy ("what are you doing? use your gears!"). while the gears were there, i wanted to get used to the idea that they weren't. it's so hard. i find that i choose to use the gears more often at the beginning of the ride. i think i'm still a long way from deserving a relationship with an SS bike.
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Post by qt_kat on Apr 24, 2007 13:15:40 GMT 8
you said it BO, i see it as a commitment to go SS. it's not because you'll give up other riding styles, but because you won't give up on SS when the going gets tough. some weekends i ride without shifting and i don't cheat. i decide at the beginning of the ride if i'm going to use the gears or not and i stick to the choice. when i couldn't climb, i'd push. my co-riders thought i was crazy ("what are you doing? use your gears!"). while the gears were there, i wanted to get used to the idea that they weren't. it's so hard. i find that i choose to use the gears more often at the beginning of the ride. i think i'm still a long way from deserving a relationship with an SS bike. I've tried that style too, Sis. I've done it a couple of times really sticking it out and using only one gear. But there's one thing I've learned from using a singlespeed .....you really need patience. You wanna know why? Well, going uphill for me is not much of a problem but then when it was time to go downhill and eventually pedal on flat paved road, I felt that the bike was soooo slow so I had to shift gears just to make it move fast ( prolly because I'm a masher and not a spinner). That's when I realized that I need more time to get myself used to an SS. Maybe in time I'll have more patience, higher cadence and eventually....... my own singlespeed.
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Post by Dragunov on Apr 24, 2007 13:23:59 GMT 8
kate! theres another thing to convert i think hehehe convert yourself to a spinner hehehehe
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Post by qt_kat on Apr 24, 2007 13:30:09 GMT 8
kate! theres another thing to convert i think hehehe convert yourself to a spinner hehehehe Im working on it Pete! ;D
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Post by MrsM on Apr 24, 2007 13:36:17 GMT 8
Hey Kate, we have the same riding style, I'm also a masher and not a spinner. When Mat was trying to convince me to try single speed, I said no way, I loved gears too much and I wasn't much of a spinner. I finally agreed, with the plan that I could always ask him to put gears on it if I didn't like it. So far, I'm finding the single speed quite a challenge and can't wait to try it on diff trails. I realized spinning can be fun too, going uphill on paved roads was fun, and uphill grinds on trails was sheer torture ;D I'm sure once you try it, you and your single speed bike will find a connection that's quite hard to explain, but I promise you you'll love it!
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Post by Ben Dover on Apr 24, 2007 13:37:32 GMT 8
you said it BO, i see it as a commitment to go SS. it's not because you'll give up other riding styles, but because you won't give up on SS when the going gets tough. some weekends i ride without shifting and i don't cheat. i decide at the beginning of the ride if i'm going to use the gears or not and i stick to the choice. when i couldn't climb, i'd push. my co-riders thought i was crazy ("what are you doing? use your gears!"). while the gears were there, i wanted to get used to the idea that they weren't. it's so hard. i find that i choose to use the gears more often at the beginning of the ride. i think i'm still a long way from deserving a relationship with an SS bike. arent ss bikes suppose to be lighter than geared bikes coz of the absence of some parts? an actual ss should be easier to pedal too...i dont think its an accurate simulation. i think it was a symptom of extreme dehydration...it can really mess up your mind..drink plenty fluids during rides. LOL! ;D
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Post by whoopi on Apr 24, 2007 14:04:11 GMT 8
kate & MICHELLE: it's uphills on trails i can't climb without shifting. yung pavement napapagtiyagaan pa eh, once i've taught myself to stand. but the rocks on trails, ngiii ;D but you're absolutely right, ako rin i'm not used to spinning. it tires me more (baka psychological). i keep the gears at a relatively "heavy" setting, di baleng hirap sa climbs. pag light setting, nakakainip sa flats. sprays Baygon @lamok ;D
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Post by king on Apr 24, 2007 23:08:46 GMT 8
you're probably spinning too light a gear. shift to a heavier one. you'll breathe slower, your heart rate will go down, and you'll go faster. when that starts to feel to light, shift up once more. eventually you'll become a faster, stronger rider capable of spinning your 44-11!
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jacklero
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Post by jacklero on Apr 24, 2007 23:17:45 GMT 8
well for me single speed are use in trials and not for commuters like i do. people prefer to use single speed because like every body said earlier, SIMPLICITY. unlike multi speed, single speed are best use in stunts and street jumps. for commuters like me. i prefer multi speed. it make me choose what gear i like during my commute to work. i also like to build a single speed. in fact i built one which is the easy rider. for leisure only not to be use in commuting From my end, I actually prefer to commute with my single speeder (wait, I don't have geared bikes anymore...grrr), I find it easier zipping through traffic on a bike that responds almost instantly to pedal pressure (hey can't beat fixed gear you can even go backwards) specially in situations where even bikes have difficulty squeezing through (ah...mayniLA traffic!). Also, very useful for overtaking jeepneys that cut, as you just need to focus your energy on pedalling faster, instead of dropping gears (think jackrabbit starts in first gear for cars)
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Post by mountguitars on Apr 25, 2007 0:39:31 GMT 8
you said it BO, i see it as a commitment to go SS. it's not because you'll give up other riding styles, but because you won't give up on SS when the going gets tough. some weekends i ride without shifting and i don't cheat. i decide at the beginning of the ride if i'm going to use the gears or not and i stick to the choice. when i couldn't climb, i'd push. my co-riders thought i was crazy ("what are you doing? use your gears!"). while the gears were there, i wanted to get used to the idea that they weren't. it's so hard. i find that i choose to use the gears more often at the beginning of the ride. i think i'm still a long way from deserving a relationship with an SS bike. arent ss bikes suppose to be lighter than geared bikes coz of the absence of some parts? an actual ss should be easier to pedal too...i dont think its an accurate simulation. i think it was a symptom of extreme dehydration...it can really mess up your mind..drink plenty fluids during rides. LOL! ;D i agree with tolits, only the first paragraph of his comment that is, hehe. ;D on an SS you might find it light using the same gear ratio. also, the only way to truly appreciate a SS is to actually try one. im not saying you buy one right away, hehehe. ;D. try michelle's or somebody else' if you happen you bump into one who uses a SS. i tried that too, simulating. but nothing beats using the real thing. no wonder its really gratifying not to use a tensioner at all, hehehe. ;D. keeping it simple is the key. but sometimes keeping it simple makes it complicated and costly. you'll find that out one of these days. hope this adds to the confusion, hehehe. ;D
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Post by quiesledaddy on Apr 25, 2007 8:37:34 GMT 8
causeyagottahaveit!!!!!!
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schwinng
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Post by schwinng on May 16, 2007 7:51:06 GMT 8
I started riding a singlespeed to challenge myself. But I find riding my geared bike helped me a lot more on the trail when I ride my singlespeed, not the other way around. Some people might find this odd, but I ride big gears on my geared bike, when I get on my singlespeed I could just spin, mostly
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Post by Alphabolt on Jul 29, 2007 22:36:16 GMT 8
No ghost shifting and suspension issues ...carefree until the uphills come that is
yep...Im a masher also... so Im learning to spin with my SS. so the SS setup works for me
Havent used my FS geared bikes for 1 month na! all SS...oh no!
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Post by g.b.b on Jul 30, 2007 7:48:47 GMT 8
No ghost shifting and suspension issues ...carefree until the uphills come that is yep...Im a masher also... so Im learning to spin with my SS. so the SS setup works for me Havent used my FS geared bikes for 1 month na! all SS...oh no! see, i told you..... SS is real easy.... i remember you saying before when you see me in SS.... "dude di ako kasing lakas mo eh" (trans: dude, im not good looking like you eh...)
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Post by Alphabolt on Jul 30, 2007 7:53:41 GMT 8
No ghost shifting and suspension issues ...carefree until the uphills come that is yep...Im a masher also... so Im learning to spin with my SS. so the SS setup works for me Havent used my FS geared bikes for 1 month na! all SS...oh no! see, i told you..... SS is real easy.... i remember you saying before when you see me in SS.... "dude di ako kasing lakas mo eh" (trans: dude, im not good looking like you eh...) yep yep, bri. Its body english on light bikes...tire choice is uber important though (gotta spend in that department)
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Post by MrsM on Jul 30, 2007 9:23:22 GMT 8
Hey Arnel, one month without using your hi-end geared bikes? The ss bug has really gotten you ey, hehehe? Will you be using it for the 24 hour race?
Back on topic, one of the reasons I prefer using my singlespeed over my geared bike - it's waaay easier to clean after a muddy ride!
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Post by Alphabolt on Jul 30, 2007 9:35:30 GMT 8
Hey Arnel, one month without using your hi-end geared bikes? The ss bug has really gotten you ey, hehehe? Will you be using it for the 24 hour race? Back on topic, one of the reasons I prefer using my singlespeed over my geared bike - it's waaay easier to clean after a muddy ride! Hiya Michelle! I know! oh my whatta bug! ;D ;D and you are right ! cleaning is a breeze! my bike weighs 23.40 lbs. and its great for attacking the short hump uphills one more reason to try SS: the weird looks peeps give you during rides...why is his bike like that? a riser with barends! scandal! ;D ;D heheh also, you get to pace the group (if they re really your friends) and get to talk while pedalling unlike geared bikes as I tend to sprint away ( the leg fuel depletes fast that way though)
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Post by Alphabolt on Jul 30, 2007 9:39:10 GMT 8
I originally planned to use my SS but the new sections of the course are technical with numerous uphill humps...Im thinking that SS would not be such a good idea there
I ll ride again and update you. baka nabigla lang sa new sections (trans: Ramon grnhrnt was racing and I followed on my SS ...maybe thats why)
best bike for the race is a short travel FS with a short cockpit for single track control
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Post by Freeman on Jul 30, 2007 9:41:14 GMT 8
some say simplicity and some says freedom... I use SS bike going to market and friend's house, but in trail rides I still love my geared bike, SS limits me, I love going far and hard to reach places. I think SS gives us limitations, it limits our speed and ability to reach steep and far places. my .02 cents
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Post by Alphabolt on Jul 30, 2007 9:51:20 GMT 8
some say simplicity and some says freedom... I use SS bike going to market and friend's house, but in trail rides I still love my geared bike, SS limits me, I love going far and hard to reach places. I think SS gives us limitations, it limits our speed and ability to reach steep and far places. my .02 cents coz you need to be the bike shepherd, Paul ! you bike up and down the group taking care of lost sheep you need the gears...I ll just be the lost sheep on SS ;D sorry for OT love your new bike, Paul
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Post by Dragunov on Jul 30, 2007 11:10:35 GMT 8
some say simplicity and some says freedom... I use SS bike going to market and friend's house, but in trail rides I still love my geared bike, SS limits me, I love going far and hard to reach places. I think SS gives us limitations, it limits our speed and ability to reach steep and far places. my .02 cents SS is bad for sellers like me ;D ;D ;D lesser parts to sell
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Ka Verong
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Post by Ka Verong on Jul 30, 2007 11:35:55 GMT 8
No you won't... You should see it as an expanded market... di ba? SS is bad for sellers like me ;D ;D ;D lesser parts to sell
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Post by g.b.b on Jul 30, 2007 16:10:33 GMT 8
change is good pete....... so keep those SS parts with u...... and please lower price hahaha
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Post by sup on Jul 30, 2007 17:11:04 GMT 8
why SS? it was either i buy an all mountain frame for my existing bike or build a new SS bike. i now have two bikes ;D
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Ka Verong
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Post by Ka Verong on Jul 30, 2007 17:15:45 GMT 8
I have 3 & an SS, that makes 4 & no more space in my house.
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Post by Alphabolt on Jul 30, 2007 17:47:47 GMT 8
I have 3 & an SS, that makes 4 & no more space in my house. hey one more reason : it s easier to find another excuse to build a new bike...build an SS fad or not ...its an excuse ;D
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Post by Dragunov on Jul 30, 2007 22:50:16 GMT 8
No you won't... You should see it as an expanded market... di ba? SS is bad for sellers like me ;D ;D ;D lesser parts to sell haha, you got a good point ka verong ;D, i think i should build one before i sell one ;D ;D ;D
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Post by glockbiker on Jul 31, 2007 9:35:50 GMT 8
Why SS? Take it from the SYCIP Catalogue:
"...Take away the ability to change gears and the only thing that matters is the ride.
All that said, you will suffer. But it will be beautiful and you will be thankful you paid the small price of your pain for the enormous gift of flowing into the landscape of the mountains around you..."
Me? I have less poetic reasons. I need a thrash bike that I can use for buying pan de sal in the morning...
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