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Post by maxbuwaya on Jun 30, 2004 20:04:50 GMT 8
Is it the same with downhill bikes? the crank set? Truvativ husslefelt something?
how bout the hubs and sprocket?
does it require a special kind of hub?
Does the bicycle requires a tensioner?
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Post by woofers on Jul 1, 2004 1:14:50 GMT 8
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Post by gulliver on Jul 1, 2004 14:03:57 GMT 8
max, this is a good tech help question...hope you don't mind if we move it over there brad  |
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Post by staind on Jul 1, 2004 14:27:20 GMT 8
maxi,
pag shimano ang cranks, hubs, chain, etc. mo. just buy a chain tensioner and thingamajig for the sprocket/cassette. ask mcV, lam nya yan.
pero pag truvativ yan, tapon mo na at bili ka ng shimano o RF! :harhar: :harhar: :harhar:
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Post by mcvarki on Jul 1, 2004 17:04:14 GMT 8
maximus, tama si woofy sa mga link, I was going to recommend the same. I'll try to answer some ... First of pala, na-realize ko that like geared mtbikes people use singles for many different purposes ....crosscountry,urban assault, commuting, slalom etc. I guess the type equipment you will choose depends on how you plan to ride. You can use almost any crank you like...as long as you can install a single chainring. Don't listen to staind...Truvativ makes a ss specific crankset..(teka ikaw pala nagsabi sa akin nyan) ;D There are ss specific hubs.(hard to come by here and pricey). In some cases you can convert a bmx hub to fit a mtb. In both of the above, you use a screw-in type bmx sprocket. But, if you already have a wheelset that takes an 8/9 speed cassette..you can get a 9 to 1 converter, which is just actually aluminum spacers and a single (usually 18t) cog. Kings, cycle art, paulinas have these. Mura lang. This is my favorite part! If you have a single speed specific frame (my dream  ),with rearward facing dropouts ala BMX, you won't need a tensioner. If you are doing a conversion using your geared bike with vertical dropouts , you will need some form of chain tensioning device. There are so many kinds available..(check the link) The kind I'm using is a spring loaded arm-type with a roller or pulley at the end(Surly in the link). Kita mo na yon diba? Hope this helps. Give it a try dude! All the conversion stuff will cost you only about P1100  . You can always convert back if you're not happy....but i dont think you will hehehe ;D |
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Post by maxbuwaya on Jul 1, 2004 23:29:42 GMT 8
yung sa hub nga yata ang mahirap
i was eyeing sa wheelset na rigida sa kings na pang disc gusto ko kasi disc na avid trusted and proven na kasi, (again the choice of maxbuwaya ;D)
pero i better check again sa iyo mc varki hehehe and do a little more research.
kung yung pang downhill crank kasi baka medyo over, i mean mahal kasi ang downhill parts hehehe
kung walang walang mag set up ako katulad kay woofers hehehe nainspired ako sa ginawa nya kay debbie gibson.
so far ang reseach part na natitipuhan ko
suntour fork or my old Judy TT
hardtail kona frame
rigida wheelset
nokian ultratour
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Post by maxbuwaya on Jul 1, 2004 23:36:26 GMT 8
mcvarki
how bout the experince?
top speed
average speed?
ok ba sa road o sa trails?
kamusta ang
The wall sa maarat oks ba sa iyo performance?
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Post by staind on Jul 2, 2004 11:29:30 GMT 8
so far ang reseach part na natitipuhan ko suntour fork or my old Judy TT hardtail kona frame rigida wheelset nokian ultratour orig Kona frame ba yan? if not, KHS Alite na lang basta orig. tapos benta mo na yung judy TT mo. palitan mo ng judy KK. :harhar:  |
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Post by gulliver on Jul 2, 2004 21:13:45 GMT 8
orig Kona frame ba yan? if not, KHS Alite na lang basta orig. tapos benta mo na yung judy TT mo. palitan mo ng judy KK.  ;D ;D ;D akala ko kung anong hinihirit ni idol staind hahaha! mcvarki, ilang teeth nga ba yung chainring mo sa SS diamondback mo? yung cog, 18 ba like you suggested in the previous post? ganda kasi ng timpla yung set up mo baka kailangan p kami maghanap ng diamondback with a rigid fork ;D saan pala makakuha ng rigid fork like yours...for the 1 1/8(?) tubes? kulang na lang sabihin...binibenta mo ba yung DB SS mo? hehehe |
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Post by mcvarki on Jul 2, 2004 23:22:57 GMT 8
Maximus, From my personal experience.....single speeding ROCKS! ;D ;D I don't know why but I've grown to appreciate riding more because of it. Specially when it was set up as a ridgid..PURE yung feeling.Hehehe..most of the people who have tried my ss have had a positive response.. ok sya sa road and trail....I dont have a speedo attached but the magazines say that your top speed is limited to about 15 mph...which is what,about 23-24kph. one thing you will have to accept is eventually you will have to push your ss up some steep climb , like The Wall. Had to stop 4 times, but thats ok But the rest of the ride to wawa was perfectus ;D ;D Ted, I'm running a 36/18 gearing. Accdng to the mags(again) ideal gear ratio should be 2:1. Haven't seen straight blade forks for mtb's in 1 1/8" lately.But there are many Kinesis aluminum threadless forks around or Pwede mag-pacustom, like master jun's. Can't sell the db for sentimental reasons...It was Mrsmcvarki's first mtb,heheehe |
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Post by wcoastbo on Jul 8, 2004 9:45:03 GMT 8
I just converted my hardtail into a singlespeed. My first ride was a little tough on the hill climbs, but I felt good after I was done. I still have a FS geared bike and the SS is going to make me a stronger climber. I removed my shifters and cables, big ring, small ring, cassette and used all the old parts from my old drivetrain. I only had to purchase shorter chainring bolts and an 18 tooth BMX cog that was compatible with my shimano hub and some spacers (if you want to make spacers from PVC pipe it works and many people have done it successfully). I haven't purchased a tensioner yet, but my old rear derailleur is working as tensioner for now. look in mtbr.com to convert a derailleur into a tensioner.
so far this was done on the cheap, but it all works well. let us know how your project goes.
Bo
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Post by gulliver on Jul 8, 2004 10:45:36 GMT 8
Ted, I'm running a 36/18 gearing. Accdng to the mags(again) ideal gear ratio should be 2:1. Haven't seen straight blade forks for mtb's in 1 1/8" lately.But there are many Kinesis aluminum threadless forks around or Pwede mag-pacustom, like master jun's. Can't sell the db for sentimental reasons...It was Mrsmcvarki's first mtb,heheehe thanks for the info Mat! and yes, sentimental reasons are good reasons for not selling....aside from the obvious fact that its a great bike and set-up you have there ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by maxbuwaya on Jul 12, 2004 14:23:32 GMT 8
mc V,
need your help again:)
the project is in full swing already, drivetrain na lang talaga ang kulang:) i just need to ask kung anong mas ok
on Sprocket:
Is it better to buy a cassette type sprocket and just salvage the 16T gear (or any gear) and use spacers?
Another one is Jane of kings bike is offering me "DA Bomb single speed gear with spacer priced at P650"
What do you think of this?
On cranks:
Jane again is offering me 3 speed FSA crank i(in me price range) and told me to just dismantle (again) and just retain the middle ring. what do you think of this?
Or should i go to something that are all dedicated parts for single speed?
Tnx dude. You the man!
so far ive purchase
SR suntour XC75 fork with lockout
KHS alite 500 frame with FSA headset
alexrim
alexhubs
alex barbecue
avid mecha disc
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Post by fullspeed on Jul 12, 2004 14:35:52 GMT 8
mc V, so far ive purchase SR suntour XC75 fork with lockout KHS alite 500 frame with FSA headset alexrim alexhubs alex barbecue avid mecha disc THE CHOICES OF MAXBUWAYA! ;D |
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Post by mcvarki on Jul 12, 2004 14:41:25 GMT 8
maximus,
use this:
ganyan din ang gamit ko ;D
and this:
ganyan din ginawa ko ;D ...but you might have to buy shorter chainring bolts or grind the existing ones.
don't forget the chain tensioner..DaBomb din ang brand...or if you want to save money you can use your old derailleur like what wcoastbo did. ...Nah! bili ka na lang ng tensioner ...mas maganda tignan ;D
Ito pinaka important sa lahat:
;D ;D
Dalian mo na yan project mo so we can test it sa next trail ride!
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Post by maxbuwaya on Jul 12, 2004 14:54:15 GMT 8
Mc V tnx man!!! worry ko nga yung crankset eh hehehehe baka mahirap gawing isa hehehehe anyway with todays advice from you ive decided am going for "da bomb" sprocket hehehe i have yet to think duon sa crank hehehe maghahanap munaako ng Truvativ (the choice of maxbuwaya) stylo XC crank hehehehetingnana natin kung kasya pa sa budget. |
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Post by maxbuwaya on Jul 26, 2004 9:45:39 GMT 8
TAPOS NA
PROJECKT!! Singalong speed!!!
hehehe
Suntour XC75 pork(With lock out!)
KHS alite 500 ("KHS" The choice of fullspeed)
Avid Mecha Disk
Alex DM18 rims (with red rim tape)
stock Giant stem
Avid AD5 Brake levers
velo saddle
old michelin country tires
specialize tubes
Generic:
seatpost
riserbar
hubs
spokes
pedals
Drivetrain:
Da Bomb Cassette SS1 converter 16T
FSA alpha Drive square crankset converted to single chainring 32T
Shimano IG chain (argh no choice!)
Giro Tensioner* (Not related with helmet manufacturer)
*I dunno kung tensioner talaga ito but the d@mn thing works!
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Post by warlock^_^ on Jul 26, 2004 10:03:00 GMT 8
TAPOS NA PROJECKT!! Singalong speed!!! Congrats! Now we need some pictures of your new baby! SS  (hehe initials ko yan, nde Single Speed ;D) |
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Post by woofers on Jul 26, 2004 10:10:19 GMT 8
TAPOS NA PROJECKT!! Singalong speed!!! Wow! congrants! Magkano nagastos mo? Where are the pictures? ;D |
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Post by gulliver on Jul 26, 2004 22:50:24 GMT 8
darn! lunacy! another lunatic is born! ;D ;D ;D
mcvarki, this retro movement is all your fault! hehehe, but have to say it's really cool...simplicity is always classy...something our good friend maxbuwaya needs a bit of when it comes to bikes harharhar...he bit the shimano bait (at least on the chain bit) ;D ;D ;D
maxbuway, biro lang pare ko ha? idol! (still think you're crazy tho!) ;D
so who's next to bite the dust...staind? ;D ;D ;D
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Post by fullspeed on Jul 27, 2004 9:40:44 GMT 8
SINGLE SPEED - THE CHOICE OF MAXBUWAYA!!! PARE PASAKAY HA....TESTINGIN NATIN SA DOWNHILL KUNG MATIBAY |
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Post by trixxter on Jul 27, 2004 9:58:04 GMT 8
Picture naman |
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Post by maxbuwaya on Jul 29, 2004 21:47:18 GMT 8
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Post by fullspeed on Jul 30, 2004 1:14:40 GMT 8
ganda singol speed erap! ... hmmmm |
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Post by warlock^_^ on Jul 30, 2004 9:26:45 GMT 8
da*n!..ang ganda max!
ang linis tingnan ng drivetrain!
Teka...bat sumisingit sa eksena yung Giant mo? ;D
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Post by kiddfoes on Jul 30, 2004 13:03:34 GMT 8
ang kinis max...bildyin |
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Post by trixxter on Jul 30, 2004 17:41:16 GMT 8
MAX,
Nice and clean! I have no experience sa mga single speeder, tanong ko para saan yung tensioner?
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Post by woofers on Jul 30, 2004 17:44:51 GMT 8
How much does the Alite 500 frame weigh? How about the whole bike?
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Post by maxbuwaya on Jul 31, 2004 21:49:11 GMT 8
Almost all are bought at kings bike with the help of Mcvarki and Jane (owner of kings bike)
P2900 Suntour XCP75-LO
P2950 KHS alite 500 with generic seatpost and cheap looking WTB hadset
P4700 Avid Mecha Disk
From old bike: Alex DM18 rims with hubs and spoke (from Giant XTC SE3)
From old Bike: Giant stem
From old bike: Avid AD5 Brake levers
From a cheap bike Velo saddle
From old bike michelin country tires
P160 specialize tubes
Generic:
P165 riserbar
P125 pedals
Drivetrain:
P550 Da Bomb Cassette SS1 converter 16T
P1600 FSA alpha Drive square crankset converted to single chainring 32T with FSA BB
P200 Shimano IG chain (argh no choice!)
P450 Gring Tensioner* (D pala Giro hehehe)
woofers
i dunno kung anong weight nya pero mas mabigat ito compared duon sa isang generic cheap frame. looks regualr weight on its price i guess, nothin special about it just the 15" size. Its made in China by the way
Trixxter
KAsi d ba dehins masisiskipan ang kadena ng MTB kasi dedicated ang slot ng gulong. kaya kailngan ng tension hehehehe
Gulliver at fullspeed
ano pang hinihintay nyo? sing along na! hehehehe may mga extra pa kayong frame d ba? hehehehe
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Post by trixxter on Aug 2, 2004 15:16:47 GMT 8
MAX,
Pwede bang bawasan na lang ang chain sa exactong haba instead na tensioner? Parang style BMX?
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),with rearward facing dropouts ala BMX, you won't need a tensioner. 
. You can always convert back if you're not happy....but i dont think you will hehehe ;D
(hehe initials ko yan, nde Single Speed ;D)
