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Post by cherrybomber on May 17, 2006 20:26:32 GMT 8
okay that would have been on my wish list too if i needed a tensioner! *drool* can we see it sometime. i always wondered what it looked like in person.
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Post by 'Bee' on May 18, 2006 0:41:53 GMT 8
okay that would have been on my wish list too if i needed a tensioner! *drool* can we see it sometime. i always wondered what it looked like in person. Cherrybomber, I haven't installed mine coz I still have to buy a half link. Here's a photo of the tensioner in use:    |
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Post by wcoastbo on May 18, 2006 7:22:11 GMT 8
IMHO the rennen tensioner is the best available. Tough, effective, simple, durable and looks nice.
Isn't it advisable to run them in "push up" position instead of push down? you get better chain wrap that way. or is the chain too long on the second photo and they're waiting for a half-link to arrive?
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Post by cobym on May 18, 2006 16:35:55 GMT 8
If you have a tensioner, do you still need a half-link?
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Post by cherrybomber on May 18, 2006 22:29:39 GMT 8
hey Bee, im willing to trade you my half link for the tensioner.  ;D cool! it does the push up and push down position! Hey Coby if your lucky you dont need a tensioner if you use a half link. sometimes though (like Agu's Tingle) with the halflink it was tight, and without it, the chain was too lose. however it was perfect for a push up position for his soulcraft roller. |
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Post by wcoastbo on May 18, 2006 23:23:46 GMT 8
If you have a tensioner, do you still need a half-link? In most cases no. But there are some tensioners that can tension only a small amount of chain so a half-link may be necessary depending on the gear and chainstay length. |
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Post by 'Bee' on May 19, 2006 9:03:05 GMT 8
IMHO the rennen tensioner is the best available. Tough, effective, simple, durable and looks nice. Isn't it advisable to run them in "push up" position instead of push down? you get better chain wrap that way. or is the chain too long on the second photo and they're waiting for a half-link to arrive? Bo, I tried to setup mine and this is what happen. Without the surly tensioner and after removing a full link, the chain fit exactly using a 32x18 gear, snugly fit that I can pinch the chain inwards to move a little bit (about 5mm on both sides). I'm not sure if this is okay or I need a bit more slack. Test ridden it and I notice that there's no resistance at all but still not sure if it's OK. I tried to put back the full link and there's too much slack, both setup in photo 1 and 2 can't be achieved.  So I guess I need a half link. Or the setup without the tensioner would be OK?  Bee  |
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Post by king on May 19, 2006 9:24:22 GMT 8
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Post by 'Bee' on May 19, 2006 10:45:20 GMT 8
King, Really? WOW! So, I'm done with my setup, yahuu! ;D ;D ;D Rennen Tensioner for sale, only USD$40.00. Anyone?  By the way, the other one is sold na rin pala. |
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Post by king on May 19, 2006 10:54:25 GMT 8
tago mo lang muna in case you decide to change your chain ring or your cog size  |
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Post by 'Bee' on May 19, 2006 11:08:01 GMT 8
tago mo lang muna in case you decide to change your chain ring or your cog size Oo nga ano? Thanks King! |
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Post by extraFunky on May 19, 2006 11:11:59 GMT 8
tago mo lang muna in case you decide to change your chain ring or your cog size or when your chain starts to wear and stretches. dropping chain is no fun. |
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Post by fattire on May 20, 2006 13:39:00 GMT 8
just got to ask this but isn't anyone dreaming of having an ebb (eccentric bottom bracket)?
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Post by OnebyOne on May 20, 2006 22:06:45 GMT 8
I am, I was actually thinking whether to get a Niner SIR with EBB or a Surly KM instead... |
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Post by jakecastle on May 20, 2006 23:06:51 GMT 8
Riding BMX and SS, dont they use the same pedal technique? Why SS? why not BMX w/ extra large front plates?
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Post by wcoastbo on May 20, 2006 23:53:06 GMT 8
just got to ask this but isn't anyone dreaming of having an ebb (eccentric bottom bracket)? definitely nice to have a SS specific frame! my wishlist is either EBB, horizontal drops, sliding drops, ... anything to eliminate the tensioner. for those of us who converted a geared frame, an eccentric hub would be the best method (kind of pricey). tensioners are less expensive, but defeat part of the purpose of SS (fewer parts to breakdown). Bee - King is right, you're lucky. I also got lucky with my frame, 36x20 fits perfectly with a half-link. When it's new the chain is a bit tight, but after a few rides has perfect tension. When the chain starts to get too loose, then I know it's time to replace the chain. BTW... I've used two different BMX chains and they seem to wear out or elongate pretty fast compared to the PC58s I've used in the past. My first BMX chain was a budget ACS brand and didn't last more than 100 miles and SRAM chains give me 1000's of miles of use. Therefore, cheap chains are more expensive in the long run.  My current BMX chain (KMC PT710) is already showing signs of wear and it has less the 1000 miles. I like this chain because it consists of half-links only and is very strong, but it seems to have a short life. I guess it's back to SRAM chains with a half-link to make it fit. |
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Post by wcoastbo on May 21, 2006 0:14:37 GMT 8
Riding BMX and SS, dont they use the same pedal technique? Why SS? why not BMX w/ extra large front plates? I did a trail ride on my BMX when I was a kid. I still remember how bumpy and harsh the ride was on 20" wheels... I felt every rock and almost chipped a tooth. Bigger wheels let you roll over rocks and bumps easier, especially if you have a rigid bike... part of the reason 29ers are getting popular. Also, with the small wheels and short wheelbase of a BMX you'll find yourself endoing much more often. Going uphill with a low seat and high bars would be difficult. BB and chainring clearance would be an issue on many trails except for the smoothest of them. I'd guess you'd be walking many sections if you rode BMX on the trails. I grew up with BMX and wish I still had my old bike, but they're designed for smooth surfaces instead of trails. I think BMXers have better technical skills than roadies when they convert to mtb, so there is a lot of similarity between the two disciplines. |
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Post by OnebyOne on May 27, 2006 19:47:50 GMT 8
Guys, which bikeshop dyan sa Pinas selling 29'er rims, tires and tubes? Thanks...
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Post by 32by18 on May 27, 2006 20:05:07 GMT 8
Hi Manny! We're outta luck, haven;t seen any 29er rims, tubes or tires here. Maybe we can do a special order?
You could also use 700c touring rims, or 700c training wheels (at least 32 hole) - I bet you can find some here
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Post by OnebyOne on May 27, 2006 20:07:11 GMT 8
Thanks Agu, I actually kind of holding my Monkey order from Mistah La...he's got a very limited options for rim, tires and tubes...
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Post by Patrick on Jul 24, 2006 21:39:31 GMT 8
Can somebody please explain to me what a half link is? Is it the wierd looking chain?. Thanks hehe
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Post by wcoastbo on Jul 25, 2006 9:09:01 GMT 8
a full link has two pieces, inner plates combined with outer plates and linked by a pin. 2" long. here's a picture of a chain with one half-link included. the plate is bent/stamped to include both inner and outer link, the pin is eliminated. 1" long.  |
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Post by jibber on Jul 25, 2006 11:38:03 GMT 8
It's not enough to have just one half-link, right? A spare is needed also in case this thing breaks or be damaged. So where can we buy this half-link sa 'pinas? The last time I asked about this, I think somebody (Agu???) said it's not available here...meron na ba?
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Post by Patrick on Jul 25, 2006 14:42:41 GMT 8
oh I see, last I saw that was an entire chain made of half links hehe
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Post by cherrybomber on Jul 26, 2006 11:07:42 GMT 8
yeh i saw that one in person. the brand was shadow conspiracy.
lupit tingnan! also really heavy since its for BMX and was meant to be burly an used for grinding (i think?).
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Post by 'Bee' on Jul 26, 2006 17:09:30 GMT 8
This item is for sale. Anyone interested? Wheels Manufacturing Inc. Single Speed Kit (Brand New)16T sprocket Chainguides (2 pcs) for both sides of the sprocket (black colour) 2.5mm (black colour) and 1mm spacers (silver colour) Shimano Lock-ring included Asking for PHP 1,900.00  I will post the actual photo soon. One good thing with this set is the 1mm spacers for chainline fine tuning. PM me if interested. |
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Post by Patrick on Jul 26, 2006 19:43:38 GMT 8
Can the centerlock Lock be used as a lock-ring on the other side? or is it threaded the opposite way?
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Post by joes on Jul 26, 2006 20:40:04 GMT 8
where can i buy those half-link chains?
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Post by skarhed on Jul 27, 2006 3:10:18 GMT 8
Have links? BMX chains! Made by Shadow Conspiracy... but alas, none available here... I think they sell for $39, try checkin' DansComp.com What's on my wishlist? DMR Revolver hubs! Drooooooool!!!
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Post by joes on Jul 28, 2006 17:55:27 GMT 8
yeah. i checked them revolver hubs. i like'm too. so go buy 'em na ef, i'll gladly take care of 'da hubs!' hehehehe.
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The official Philippine distributor for VooDoo. 
;D cool! it does the push up and push down position!
So I guess I need a half link. Or the setup without the tensioner would be OK? 
