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Post by >rocketman> on Aug 11, 2007 4:45:38 GMT 8
Do you believe in this b.s.? Okay we will do a "nico" try to experiment with sprokets and spacers lying around. 5 and 6 speeds for DH. You can disassemble low end road shimano sprokets connected by 3 pins/ or sometimes 3 allen screws. or old 8 speed cassetes without "spider and spider webs" clean it first heheh to get the gears you want. select and pin it back together. use spacers and bring the clusters to the middle of the chainline. simply replace spacers on the sprocket you remove. Note: Chain ring is 36 teeth. 5 speeds: 11, 12, 15, 19, 23 teeth or 11, 13, 16, 19, 23 teeth 6 speeds: 11, 14, 17, 19, 21, 23 teeth Then adjust the hi and low of your rear derailleur. pro rider jong will release report afterwards. WEIGHT SAVINGS jong! techdocs.shimano.com/media/te...9830611831.pdf
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Post by quiesledaddy on Aug 11, 2007 9:12:06 GMT 8
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Post by skarhed on Aug 11, 2007 11:04:26 GMT 8
I still love my 8 speed cogset...
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Post by >rocketman> on Aug 13, 2007 0:57:01 GMT 8
jong recently tested, the 5 cluster (combination of SHIMANO ultegra and 105) on his V10 last saturday.
verdict; PASSED!
and i thought 5 speed is for cars and electric fans and now DHR bikes.
I ll go with 6 speeds combo above.
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Post by quiesledaddy on Aug 13, 2007 1:39:19 GMT 8
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Post by <eVs10nacious< on Aug 13, 2007 15:59:41 GMT 8
will post pix asap promise ........5 speed gearing ;D ......... WOW tsalap!.......no more mind bangling when it comes to shifting........patay negosyo ng shimano.......trans: back to old school gear ratio
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Post by puregutz on Aug 13, 2007 18:21:12 GMT 8
So what do you want to achieve? Lighter set-up? Faster shifting? Wala lang magawa? What?
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Post by >rocketman> on Aug 13, 2007 18:46:36 GMT 8
;DOn nico the alien's home planet they use only five gears for dh? 07 World Cup Champery Switzerland Lapiere dh ;DMSA, Mont St Anne 07 world cup Dan Atherton Commencal DH - Six speed
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Post by >rocketman> on Aug 13, 2007 18:59:52 GMT 8
;Dworld cup alien technology = sprocket "de volution"
;D i guess jong has plenty of time thinkering, nothing to do hehhehehe,
I think's there's a valid reason why the world cup pro and the Dhfanatics are doing it,
they will do anything just to beat Sammy Hill.
(they don't know sam has 15 speed sprocket heheheh)
;Djong caught the alien virus, and it's spreading...
:DNote: I think it was Aaron Chase was the one who customed his sprocket with spacers on the right most side. for his street tricks. back pedal fakey?
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Post by <eVs10nacious< on Aug 13, 2007 20:10:02 GMT 8
copy that right side pocket......mine 23-19-17-15-13 ;D @ d center!
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Post by <eVs10nacious< on Aug 15, 2007 15:05:14 GMT 8
the only advantage in customizing the gearing......is to where u put the most usable gears that u think suits for traks & doesnt confused u much.......this is DH racing.........5,6,7 gears will do even 3,4 but thats depends on the track & how will u manage to attack it! try it if ur into dh racing
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Post by puregutz on Aug 17, 2007 10:02:08 GMT 8
the only advantage in customizing the gearing......is to where u put the most usable gears that u think suits for traks & doesnt confused u much.......this is DH racing.........5,6,7 gears will do even 3,4 but thats depends on the track & how will u manage to attack it! try it if ur into dh racing EVS
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Post by quiesledaddy on Aug 17, 2007 10:51:21 GMT 8
So what do you want to achieve? Lighter set-up? Faster shifting? Wala lang magawa? What? And here it is, funny one Jay
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Post by <eVs10nacious< on Aug 17, 2007 12:37:16 GMT 8
achieve : below sub 40, not much confusing in shifting no more excuses in pro/elite categ , me exec logic ba! evs pa rin!
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Post by >rocketman> on Aug 24, 2007 1:15:41 GMT 8
Oy hows the XT 07 push push trigger shifters? hehehehe
will wait for the XT 08 push push trigger this september soon, same price? 3k?
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Post by <eVs10nacious< on Nov 6, 2007 21:23:37 GMT 8
tested & proven......FRO!
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Post by REDNEB on Nov 6, 2007 21:39:19 GMT 8
5 speed lang... 11-12-13-15-18 yan lang magagamit talaga!
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Post by rcgmachineshop on Nov 6, 2007 22:09:09 GMT 8
Now I have to look for aluminum shafting to manufacture these spacers.
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Post by >rocketman> on Nov 6, 2007 22:23:50 GMT 8
The first two pics are racing euro circuit and world cups,
the last pic is racing Dh in the philippines
Stupid philippine Dh have legalize uphill in dh courses
and this "sit up" (nilo) is disadvantageous.
TImE to Change let's go out and VOte! NO TO UPHILL on phil dh race courses!,
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Post by santino on Nov 6, 2007 22:43:56 GMT 8
@ Rocketman,
I want your '08 XT shifters. Want to trade for a Synchros handlebar and a titanium-rail saddle? Hehehe.
Subtitle 1: Like, my gosh, you're making like so much boto against uphill sections in downhill racing? But why nga? Why should there be so much akyat in like, karera going baba? I"m going to call my driver and make me sundo.
@ Jhongki,
I can see a new ad campaign for you: Nakasubok ka na ba ng Lima?
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Post by >rocketman> on Nov 6, 2007 22:48:56 GMT 8
OT you! bang! bang!
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Post by santino on Nov 6, 2007 22:58:07 GMT 8
@ Rocketman,
Hehehe. Sorry. Couldn't resist... after all, all the gearing I ever used was 11-34, 11-32, and 1 x 1.
When are you going to try the 1 x 5 gearing combo?
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Post by yetiman on Nov 7, 2007 14:54:41 GMT 8
what i can see in this innovation is to achieve a good chain line. We encounter a lot of DH customers/friends with broken drop outs because they shift to the biggest and innnermost cog during the last hurrah of pedaling their bikes before pushing it up the hills. And when it's about to downhill, and the swingarm starts to work, and forgetting the chain still on it's biggest cog..SNAP!!! ( gets nyo? ) And on DH racing, you have a good chance of not breaking your chain if it stays on a good line. Actually, it make sense to me...
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Post by REDNEB on Nov 7, 2007 15:07:55 GMT 8
True yetiman, all the pedal force transmitted via the chain is a very delicate mechanical part on dh bikes, smaller cogs means faster speed but also requires extra force to push...
now on the goin down on small cogs then shifting to larger ones for uphill may be caused by wrong DH course design......... ( eh baket may uphill nga papa eh dh course? )...
the mechanical action of the chain requires the chain to be aligned from ring to cogs and back as it spins( thats what the chainguide rollers are designed for), the SNAP issue is common to riders who are unfamiliar with gearing techniques .......
thats why i wonder who the fk thought of putting 9 speed cogs on a Dh bike? hahahaaha....
eh baket noon 7 speed lang tuwang tuwa na tayo lahat? hahahahaha.......
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Post by santino on Nov 7, 2007 16:51:55 GMT 8
@ Badong,
Sometimes the idea of innovation is simply adding more whilst also adding more at the expense of the customer, ano? So do you use a 12t as the last cog or an 11t?
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Post by <eVs10nacious< on Nov 7, 2007 18:34:55 GMT 8
yez, syempre set up ko yan s v10 ko...... likewise it will cut down the weight issue of ur bike....... more than make sense......madali pang linisin ang mga cogs...... @ Jhongki, I can see a new ad campaign for you: Nakasubok ka na ba ng Lima?
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Post by yetiman on Nov 7, 2007 21:13:38 GMT 8
Evs, saving weight doesn't do much on downhill bikes, 40 lbs. is just right. what you did on your cogsets is just little grams. Marketing hype lang yan chong! They need to do something to sell something! But the innovation makes sense. You just need 5 gears on dh racing. On freeriding, and what we ALL do now due to absence of racing, all must take the ordeal of uphills ( padyak or tulak ) just to enjoy our rides. My 2 cents....
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Post by REDNEB on Nov 8, 2007 8:21:53 GMT 8
5 gears lang tlga!..... wow just like 5 fingers?!!! WOWOWeeeee santino...11t on 44 chainrings.... heheheh...
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Post by santino on Nov 8, 2007 11:34:47 GMT 8
@ Badong,
11t on 44t ?! Hmm.... of course, no braking included in the package? hehehee.
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Post by <eVs10nacious< on Nov 8, 2007 12:39:26 GMT 8
fafa with ur respect, making bawas 4 sprocs from original 9 sprocs do helps save grms lng tlga but i set up my rig with my owned specs to achieve the weight i want......now its below 39lbs.......it looks physically heavy coz u know how the v10 look like diba so just by being bike weight conscious the results gives a big smile ;D upgrade specs: tubeless mavic rim 3.1 [old model] 32h easton carbon dh cnt handlebar 5 sprocs combo 105 & ultegra easton carbon sitpost sdg ti saddle etc.....sekwet im still not happy, do some more upgrade p Evs, saving weight doesn't do much on downhill bikes, 40 lbs. is just right. what you did on your cogsets is just little grams. Marketing hype lang yan chong! They need to do something to sell something! But the innovation makes sense. You just need 5 gears on dh racing. On freeriding, and what we ALL do now due to absence of racing, all must take the ordeal of uphills ( padyak or tulak ) just to enjoy our rides. My 2 cents....
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