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Post by palikero333 on May 4, 2008 20:27:20 GMT 8
just asking, can hypertension be cured?( i mean, can it be cured for good?) is 140/90 normal?(32y.o.) and is biking bad for a person who has hypertension? sorry for the questions. (too many)
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Post by mbr on May 4, 2008 21:26:14 GMT 8
just asking, can hypertension be cured?( i mean, can it be cured for good?) is 140/90 normal?(32y.o.) and is biking bad for a person who has hypertension? sorry for the questions. (too many) As per my cardio, 130/90 is already the borderline for being hypertensive. I just dont know about the age factor, im only 28 and i was diagnosed to be with hypertension at age 25. Dietary habits - too much Almer's food during my college days. hehehe. Re: biking, i asked my cardio about it and she recommended me to take a thread mill stress test first to see if i am really fit to go biking. I wont discuss my results here but in general, her recommendation is that 1) ride early so as to avoid riding in extreme heat. 2) do not push yourself too hard, try to pace your ride 3) drink lots of water - like sipping every 15mins even when you're not thirsty - keeps your body cool 4) try to cool down after a ride and lastly wear a heart rate monitor - since we are already high blood, it would be better to consult your cardio after the threadmill test on what setting you would use on your heart rate monitor. My doc also told me that i can still be weaned out from my medications, if i exercise right and eat right. The keyword is eating sensibly. Easier said than done, im working at santa rosa and lunch out for us means going to Paseo de Sta Rosa to feast on Blue Corner or Traveller's sizzling foods with occasional Kanin Club galore.
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Post by rfm2md on May 4, 2008 21:33:25 GMT 8
90% of the time, hypertension is of essential cause. Meaning, there's no clear cause but could be more often than not, attributed to hereditary factors. Like they say, it's too late to pick your parents. If one's parent or parents is/are hypertensive or if it runs in the family, chances are you shall have hypertension too.
140/90 if you're gonna based it on the latest hypertension guideline is already hypertension stage 1. Now, is biking good for hypertension/hypertensive people? You must keep in mind that one must be fit to take Cardiac Hill, and the other lung-busting trails and should not be the other way around (Conquering it to make one fit). It's best that you consult your doctor, for he/she knows what's best for you.
The key is if you're already hypertensive, do the right exercise, eat the right food and if you're on medication, take it as ordered by your physician.
Ride safe!
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Post by palikero333 on May 4, 2008 23:39:53 GMT 8
tnx for the reply, i'm taking neoblock 50mg a day(my doc recommends 2 a day) i regularly check my bp. now it hardly hits 140/90. maybe around 130/80, sometime it varries. why does my systolic hard to maintain at 120? is there any way to make it stable at 120? this condition of mine bothers me for over a year now. i think i need some counseling. he he he
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Post by palikero333 on May 5, 2008 20:03:01 GMT 8
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Post by arcireyes on May 5, 2008 20:27:52 GMT 8
hi palikero, if i may just put my .02 on this: i am 53 years old and a hypertensive (congenital daw, since i was one ever since i was 15 years old). last time i was sidelined (late feb - early march this year) was when my BP shoot up to 180/100 (after a week's furlough to aklan). after consultation with my doc, she told me that she needs to double my dosage of anti-hypertension medicine,as well as prescribed a heart relaxant as my heart is getting affected by the High BP. she told me to stop biking and go easy on my exercise. for 2 weeks i was into brisk walking exercise only, while i took my prescribed medicine religiously, went into a strict low-cholesterol, low-sodium diet and no-alcohol lifestyle. after that i went again for a check up and my BP has improved and bottomed down to an "almost" normal level. i went back to biking, first via some easy UP ikots, then slowly did some road trips with mild uphills, improved to rolling uphills, then finally went back to normal trail riding and what not, all the while maintaining my religious intake of medicines and the "low" diets and no-alcohol. having been hypertensive "almost" all my life, i have learned to listen to my body, and this time i had become more serious with my diet and medicine intake. i do "hard" riding once in a while but i always listen to my body. and mind you i just did lungcaire yesterday bottomline here is not be a victim of our condition and just be sidelined because of it, instead we should fight it "HEAD-ON" via proper consultation, religious intake of medicines, lifestyle change (if you still drink or smoke), strict diet and regular exercise. this way your fight with your hypertension should motivate you more to do biking. good luck! and hope to ride with you sometime
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Post by bambini on May 5, 2008 21:31:20 GMT 8
coongrats arcireyes! i too am in the pre-hypertension bracket having a constant bp of 140/100 for the past several months. but i'm too scared to consult a doctor. after going back to biking 3x a week and playing badminton 5x a week (12-1pm) during lunchbreak, my bp improved a bit. it's now 130/90 sometimes 130/80 range. btw, i also cut down on my carbo intake. as much as possible i skip rice.
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Post by allegra on May 5, 2008 23:13:22 GMT 8
Has anyone tried Herbalife? Yung meal replacement drink Worked for my cousin's hypertension I use it to lose weight rapidly or pre race meal
I used to sell the stuff , but not anymore nor do I still make money from them Wala ako patience magbenta , but honestly their products sure works it's magic
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Post by palikero333 on May 7, 2008 8:20:08 GMT 8
what if once in a while you consume 4 bottles of beer and 3 sticks of cigar(let say once in a month or 2) is it bad?
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Post by rfm2md on May 7, 2008 8:39:23 GMT 8
what if once in a while you consume 4 bottles of beer and 3 sticks of cigar(let say once in a month or 2) is it bad? Not that bad compared to when you do that more often or daily. But it is bad if you used to just have 2 bottles of beer, & a stick of cigarette a month...
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Post by rfm2md on May 7, 2008 8:40:45 GMT 8
Has anyone tried Herbalife? Yung meal replacement drink Worked for my cousin's hypertension I use it to lose weight rapidly or pre race meal I used to sell the stuff , but not anymore nor do I still make money from them Wala ako patience magbenta , but honestly their products sure works it's magic It's more of a case to case basis. Hypertension is caused by a number of factors. What might work for one, may not work for another....
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Post by rfm2md on May 7, 2008 8:41:39 GMT 8
tnx for the reply, i'm taking neoblock 50mg a day(my doc recommends 2 a day) i regularly check my bp. now it hardly hits 140/90. maybe around 130/80, sometime it varries. why does my systolic hard to maintain at 120? is there any way to make it stable at 120? this condition of mine bothers me for over a year now. i think i need some counseling. he he he Sir, take it as your doctor ordered, and stop taking it when you're told to do so....
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Post by Julia on May 7, 2008 8:48:14 GMT 8
@ palikero333
you can go for wine... its healthier... good for the heart and blood circulation plus i think it relaxes the arteries which pumps the blood to the heart. but too much is no good also...
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Post by marcs on May 7, 2008 9:28:02 GMT 8
bottomline here is not be a victim of our condition and just be sidelined because of it, instead we should fight it "HEAD-ON" via proper consultation, religious intake of medicines, lifestyle change (if you still drink or smoke), strict diet and regular exercise. this way your fight with your hypertension should motivate you more to do biking. very good point. it's really about taking charge. e.g. eating right is getting harder and harder now especially if you have to eat out. seems there are very very few healthy affordable choices out there (at best it's Subway for me). but I've made it a point to bring healthy baon (e.g. Century Tuna, Wheat Bread, canned fruits). I've recently discovered Delicatessen (?) in Shopwise which sells cold cuts, so now I can make my own subway sandwiches at less price. It's coming out better financially din. Bringing your own meal not only lets you eat right, you also tend to spend less. Of course there are sacrifices you have to make (no more sisig, gravy, smoking, etc), and you have to exert effort to exercise right, but I'm sure with determination you can overcome this. Heck, a lot of the world's best athletes had something going against them at one point, but they chose to push on to greatness.
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Post by gadgets88 on May 7, 2008 9:32:24 GMT 8
coongrats arcireyes! i too am in the pre-hypertension bracket having a constant bp of 140/100 for the past several months. but i'm too scared to consult a doctor. after going back to biking 3x a week and playing badminton 5x a week (12-1pm) during lunchbreak, my bp improved a bit. it's now 130/90 sometimes 130/80 range. btw, i also cut down on my carbo intake. as much as possible i skip rice. We are the same. Not only am I scared of visiting the doctor... I hate going to hospitals (daming germs noh?). I hate seeing blood. I hate the smell of disinfectants in hospitals. Everything makes me puke. There's so much I hate about hospitals that studying nursing never entered my mind. That being said I got myself a health card (bec my son get free pedia consultations) and forced myself to use it often myself (para dehins sayang ung privileges). After getting a bump in the head (I removed my helmet while still clipped on the pedals) last January, I got some tests (intra-cranial scan, carotid scan) just to use my health card. They found out something (not related to the bukol I got). I have a certain condition (stage 2 na daw) that requires monitoring my BP, cholesterol and a list of blood chemistry stuff because of a "carotid" condition. I am required to monitor and keep my levels lower than normal people (kasi nga may bara sa blood veins going to my brain). So, the visit to the doctor was not a waste! An otherwise life-threatening condition was discovered (not early but not too late either) and recovery maneuvers are now in place (some things I cannot eat). Visits to the doctor is always wise. No amount of working out can replace the purpose of consulting the educated. You need to visit the doctor bec she tells you the options available, tests you need to take and things you need to monitor. The doctor being able to catch something wrong is also a big bonus. Of course, at the end of the day, it is still up to you to take care of your own body, but more information is power. what if once in a while you consume 4 bottles of beer and 3 sticks of cigar(let say once in a month or 2) is it bad? Here's my 2 cents... you're better off consuming 1 bottle of beer every night for 4 nights instead of 4 bottles in one night. You don't want to tax your body by abusing it too much. A little goes a long way. It's like swimming on Monday and biking on Tuesday and running on Wednesday. If you did all the things in one go, triathlon na tawag dyan. In that case, you can address your questions to Allegra, he's the sports psycho analyst in the house
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Post by arcireyes on May 7, 2008 9:53:30 GMT 8
on top of my regular weekend "light" biking exercise, i religiously take a cocktail of norvasc 10mg in the morning (thanks ulit doc alvin for the pfizer discount card), natrilix SR 1.5 mg in the evening (which being a diuretic, makes me get up 2x from my sleep to pee) circulan 4-in-1 and cor-30. coupled with strict low-sodium, low-cholesterol diet it somehow allows this old hypertensive man to once in a while go from light to moderate biking exercise. my motto.......... PADYAK LANG NG PADYAK Livestrong Hypertensive brothers ;D
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Post by Ben Dover on May 7, 2008 12:06:05 GMT 8
hmm...some people i think nasa "ulo" (stress) ang problema kaya naha-highblood. relax...see a movie hehehe! ;D i'm not joking
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Post by allegra on May 7, 2008 13:14:56 GMT 8
Has anyone tried Herbalife? Yung meal replacement drink Worked for my cousin's hypertension I use it to lose weight rapidly or pre race meal I used to sell the stuff , but not anymore nor do I still make money from them Wala ako patience magbenta , but honestly their products sure works it's magic It's more of a case to case basis. Hypertension is caused by a number of factors. What might work for one, may not work for another.... A ok I guess herbalife would only work if diet related ang cause I noticed nga even w/ herbalife mataas pa rin bp ko pag wala akong pera
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Post by palikero333 on May 7, 2008 20:17:59 GMT 8
tnx po sa mga info mga sir and mam. what about "bawang" can it lower bp? (i can eat onion but not bawang. )
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Post by rfm2md on May 8, 2008 6:27:39 GMT 8
tnx po sa mga info mga sir and mam. what about "bawang" can it lower bp? (i can eat onion but not bawang. ) As a doctor, I don't advocate the use of garlic as a substitute for the regular medication. Though garlic has a longstanding reputation for helping lower the blood pressure, there still isn't enough clinical studies to prove its effect in lowering the blood pressure. Thus, most clinical data about it are inconclusive. Maybe in an indirect way, by helping lower cholesterol levels and making use of it as a substitute for salt as part of food ingredients. HTH
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