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Post by gt on May 14, 2007 22:39:28 GMT 8
Anybody experienced this same pain ?
There are times that i experience pain in my back during difficult climbs while gasping for Air.
Situation is , pedalling with high RPM , fast heavy breathing , your mind is pushing your body to the limit , Pain in the back is like , my lungs is going to explode . i dont mind the pain in my legs but the pain in my back , ooooooouch!!!
Is this a sign of something bad , how can i avoid it.
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Post by Dragunov on May 14, 2007 23:16:33 GMT 8
Anybody experienced this same pain ? There are times that i experience pain in my back during difficult climbs while gasping for Air. Situation is , pedalling with high RPM , fast heavy breathing , your mind is pushing your body to the limit , Pain in the back is like , my lungs is going to explode . i dont mind the pain in my legs but the pain in my back , ooooooouch!!! Is this a sign of something bad , how can i avoid it. i guess it has something to do with your bike geometry, move your saddle forward a bit, this might lessen the pain, or have a back massage hehe
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Post by Alphabolt on May 14, 2007 23:22:09 GMT 8
yup. saddle forward and tilt the front part of the saddle down (allen key needed) about negative 5degrees You ve got it easy still, brad ...I have a slipped disc so my back pain is a constant fact of life Good Luck
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Post by Dragunov on May 14, 2007 23:56:45 GMT 8
yup. saddle forward and tilt the front part of the saddle down (allen key needed) about negative 5degrees You ve got it easy still, brad ...I have a slipped disc so my back pain is a constant fact of life Good Luck too much back and fort rocking of the hips caused your slipped disc arnel!!! ;D ;D ;D
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Post by Alphabolt on May 15, 2007 0:18:36 GMT 8
yup. saddle forward and tilt the front part of the saddle down (allen key needed) about negative 5degrees You ve got it easy still, brad ...I have a slipped disc so my back pain is a constant fact of life Good Luck too much back and fort rocking of the hips caused your slipped disc arnel!!! ;D ;D ;D I wish ! ;D ;D but that was your problem before d ba Pete ? too much payin' and swayin' ;D but the reason is much more simple: got the slipped disc while climbing Mt Banahaw for a team building exercise
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Post by Dragunov on May 15, 2007 0:21:32 GMT 8
still my problem now!!!!!!! hehehe
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Post by jr on May 15, 2007 0:53:55 GMT 8
Is this for lower or upper back? Lower back it could be your seating position. The upper back could be your lungs over stretched or tightening the muscles near your shoulder blade during climbing. Usually when climbing tense to do lots of upper body like pulling the handlebar this cuase the muscle to tighten all the way to your shoulder and neck. It happpen to me a lot of time specially next day after ride. What I do is to stretch after ride and stay 30 minutes on the tub with warm water to relax the muscle better yet have deep tissue massage.
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Post by Dragunov on May 15, 2007 1:12:54 GMT 8
Is this for lower or upper back? Lower back it could be your seating position. The upper back could be your lungs over stretched or tightening the muscles near your shoulder blade during climbing. Usually when climbing tense to do lots of upper body like pulling the handlebar this cuase the muscle to tighten all the way to your shoulder and neck. It happpen to me a lot of time specially next day after ride. What I do is to stretch after ride and stay 30 minutes on the tub with warm water to relax the muscle better yet have deep tissue massage. yeah!! the famous DEEP TISSUE MASSAGE!!! ;D ;D ;D
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Post by wcoastbo on May 15, 2007 5:11:54 GMT 8
I'll add my 2 cents worth. Here are some of the ways I lessen my back pain. You've described a similar scenario I've been through. If the pain goes away once you sit upright or stand and stretch, then I don't think it indicates anything bad.
1) strengthen your other core muscles to take some of the load off your back. stronger abdominal and oblique muscles seem to lessen lower back pain.
2) lighten the load in your hydration pack. put a water bottle in the cage and fill the bladder to half only. if your friend has a pump leave yours at home. quit trying to take every possible spare part that will fit in the pack.
3) change your climbing position occasionally. instead of spinning in granny gear the whole time, shift to middle ring and use 2nd or 3rd gear on your cassette, stand and mash for 30 seconds or 1 minute.
standing takes the load off your back and you can stretch it while still riding. when you're out of breath you'll find that your legs are still strong, besides you'll be able to use your arms and upper back for the extra power (watch a SSer mash up a hill for the proper technique).
4) I think bar height on most XC bikes are setup for too aggressive a climbing position... raise your stem height a bit (provided you have enough steerer tube) or get a 15 degree stem or a shorter stem.
5) Ride hills more often. I tend to have back pain if I don't ride often enough and I suddenly try the killer long climb. The necessary muscles have atrophied a bit due to lack of use.
Good luck and let us know what helps your problem.
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Post by xctofi on May 15, 2007 5:47:51 GMT 8
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Post by Bikester on May 17, 2007 14:05:11 GMT 8
Me too, Lower back problem on climbs, I tried the other bikers advice to forward the saddle or move your body forward,it help naman,although thre is still pain,but not as much as before,I also agree with westbo,I feel less pain when I'm in a better shape.
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Post by gt on May 17, 2007 15:41:14 GMT 8
Hi guys , Thanks for the tip , i dont have issues on my lower back so i dont need to adjust my seat . Its my upper back , yes i feel that its my lungs during heavy breathing , a thigh feeling , and it happens during the ride . But subsides once i got into normal breathing
Sir jr ,
At what situation do you experience this pain .
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Post by jr on May 17, 2007 22:11:38 GMT 8
Hi guys , Thanks for the tip , i dont have issues on my lower back so i dont need to adjust my seat . Its my upper back , yes i feel that its my lungs during heavy breathing , a thigh feeling , and it happens during the ride . But subsides once i got into normal breathing Sir jr , At what situation do you experience this pain . I have it after the ride, when I dont ride for 2 days and it get worse if no rides ;D. Seriously try to do deep breathing before the ride similar to Yoga. You can do this just few minutes a day specially when you just wake up in the morning or driving. During ride try to learn the breathing technique. Also do upper body workout.
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Post by g.b.b on May 18, 2007 8:01:02 GMT 8
do stretching before the ride, during stop over, and when you finish the trail.....
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Post by Alphabolt on May 18, 2007 9:21:39 GMT 8
I ll practice : Not using a hydro pack to save my back ...I ll just use a water bottle and ask my good halimaw friends share their tools with me note: bring bike inner tubes in your car so if you use your friend's at the trail , you can give yours to him/her once you re back at the trailhead
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Post by Dragunov on May 18, 2007 10:15:50 GMT 8
I ll practice : Not using a hydro pack to save my back ...I ll just use a water bottle and ask my good halimaw friends share their tools with me note: bring bike inner tubes in your car so if you use your friend's at the trail , you can give yours to him/her once you re back at the trailhead i'll tell all the halimaw not to sharetheir tools with you!!!!!!!!!! so you have to buy from me!! ;D ;D ;D
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Post by Ben Dover on May 18, 2007 10:28:09 GMT 8
i felt the lower back pain the first time i tried climbing veteran's helipad non-stop...i experienced some relief whenever i lifted my butt off the saddle (blood circulation or muscle? am not sure)...but it didnt last, as soon as i dismounted, it was gone...no problems on the following climbs.
some cases when you do something for the first time or pushed yourself harder than before expect something to hurt...your body is not used to it...persistent pain is a different issue altogether...have it examined by a doctor...just my 2 cents.
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Post by grnhrnt on May 18, 2007 16:37:20 GMT 8
I can't help emphasis the right bike fit as well as all the other tips and advise given above. It'll cost you 1k but I think this is still much less than two sessions of a massage or the medical bills that you will incur if you don't have it check.
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Post by Dragunov on May 19, 2007 11:39:24 GMT 8
I can't help emphasis the right bike fit as well as all the other tips and advise given above. It'll cost you 1k but I think this is still much less than two sessions of a massage or the medical bills that you will incur if you don't have it check. i agree! i was a victim of a wrong bike fit! my saddle was so laid back and my stem too long and low, it really made my lower back ache, it took me 2 months to recover from that injury, good thing our trip to boracay made the pain go away ;D ;D
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Post by berns on May 19, 2007 22:23:02 GMT 8
moving your handle bar closer to you may solve your problem of upper back pain.
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Post by okidok on May 20, 2007 9:59:12 GMT 8
IF THE PROBLEM PERSIST CONSULT A DOCTOR ;D
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Post by edp773 on May 20, 2007 11:10:24 GMT 8
Hello GT. I know nothing of your fitness or training, but what you describes sounds like the pain a person gets when trying to sprint when not in shape. If you are riding only on the weekend then your respitory systems probably needs more training.
The typical training for bicycles is to ride at least three times a week. A person should ride at 85% of maximum heart rate during training with several fast pedal sessions thrown in. Finding 85% of maximum is questionable without a Heart Rate Monitor, but can be done. Increase your distance by only 10% each week.
If training does not improve the problem or training is not the problem, I would suggest seeing a physical therapy physician.
Hope this may have helped. And it is only a suggestion.
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Post by Dragunov on May 20, 2007 11:40:46 GMT 8
IF THE PROBLEM PERSIST CONSULT A DOCTOR ;D paging bikedaddy, the pain doctor!!!!!!
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Post by kulot_salot on May 20, 2007 14:50:18 GMT 8
OT: docs in d house! help! i'm having persistent left shoulder hanggang triceps (also, left) numbness (also hurts alot)... but not when i'm riding... can it be caused by wrong bike fitting or the way my monitor is position.... my monitor is positioned on my right when i'm facing it, making me twist my body or head to the right... i cant reposition the monitor because its placed on top of my office table.... looks dumb to place it in the middle of the table... ;D hope you can help....
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Post by Dragunov on May 20, 2007 15:12:48 GMT 8
OT: docs in d house! help! i'm having persistent left shoulder hanggang triceps (also, left) numbness (also hurts alot)... but not when i'm riding... can it be caused by wrong bike fitting or the way my monitor is position.... my monitor is positioned on my right when i'm facing it, making me twist my body or head to the right... i cant reposition the monitor because its placed on top of my office table.... looks dumb to place it in the middle of the table... ;D hope you can help.... well jaymz !!! you can reposition the leg! eeerrrr!! the monitor in the middle of your vitara eeerrrrr!!! table that is!!! i think this will make the pain go away
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Post by gt on May 21, 2007 0:42:39 GMT 8
@ed773
Yes i ride only once a wk and everytime i go back into the saddle it feels like im starting back at zero . I think you have a point i really need a cardio training , i have power to pedal uphill but my lungs is weak . So guys how do you train your cardio vascular system.
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Post by kulot_salot on May 21, 2007 9:14:37 GMT 8
well jaymz !!! you can reposition the leg! eeerrrr!! the monitor in the middle of your vitara eeerrrrr!!! table that is!!! i think this will make the pain go away mind you dragunov, it's not my hips that hurts....
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Post by whoopi on May 21, 2007 19:47:36 GMT 8
i felt the lower back pain the first time i tried climbing veteran's helipad non-stop.... veteran's helipad non-stop? and was there a second time??! i want whatever it is LAMOK is smoking! ;D
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Post by Dragunov on May 21, 2007 20:03:06 GMT 8
i felt the lower back pain the first time i tried climbing veteran's helipad non-stop.... veteran's helipad non-stop? and was there a second time??! i want whatever it is LAMOK is smoking! ;D lamok is smoking baygon katol!!! ;D ;D ;D
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Post by Alphabolt on May 21, 2007 21:48:00 GMT 8
i felt the lower back pain the first time i tried climbing veteran's helipad non-stop.... veteran's helipad non-stop? and was there a second time??! i want whatever it is LAMOK is smoking! ;D Animal is Lamok ;D ... a scary derivative of mankind I wanna smoke some also ;D
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