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Post by Ben Dover on Feb 14, 2007 12:44:35 GMT 8
i hate salted eggs.
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Post by solid snake ™ on Feb 14, 2007 12:48:01 GMT 8
take a shower on fresh water after swimming in the beach sir arci but the most important is salt water bathing/ swimming is good for your health
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Post by arcireyes on Feb 14, 2007 13:27:43 GMT 8
copy brad
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Post by cronux35 on Feb 14, 2007 14:13:56 GMT 8
salted eggs better than "buro"!!! he! he! he!
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Post by Julio on Feb 14, 2007 16:47:42 GMT 8
Exactly my point... Every one seems to know what causes pasma (taking a cold shower, getting wet, etc...) but no one wants to explain what pasma really is
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Post by Julio on Feb 14, 2007 18:21:08 GMT 8
PASMA: AN OCCUPATIONAL PERSPECTIVE ON A TRADITIONAL ILLNESS This study aims to define pasma as an occupational health concern in the context of conditions experienced by foundry workers. The 84 subjects were chosen purposively from metal foundries located around Metro Manila and nearby provincial areas. These are workers who were exposed to hot environment in their processes. Interview-type questionnaire were administered to the subjects to elicit personal data, occupational history, working hours, workplace perception, symptoms related to heat stress, and work habits and practices. The respondents were asked questions on their beliefs and understanding in the concept of pasma. Regardless of educational attainment, almost all of the respondents (83 out of 84) believe in pasma. Many of the workers said that they learned of the concept of pasma from their parents or relatives (87%), co-workers (24%), friends (15%), and traditional medicine practitioners (herbularyos) (7%). The respondents mentioned a variety of symptoms they believe are associated with pasma. Sweaty palms and soles, trembling of hands, and profuse sweating were the most common responses. The wide variety of the responses of the subjects on the cause, symptoms and cure showed that there is no universal concept of pasma. In order to prevent having pasma, most of the workers who believe in this concept, avoid taking baths and washing their hands after work. This study showed that traditional beliefs could greatly affect work habits and practices, which could compromise their health and safety. The challenge is for traditional beliefs such as pasma to be unlearned for an occupational safety and health program to succeed. Thus, the formulation and implementation of any occupational safety and health programs should take into account such prevailing cultural biases in the workplace. Source : www.oshc.dole.gov.ph/page.php?pid=118&PHPSESSID=d997f7223fc2cf0e7138854f5eb295fd
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Post by g.b.b on Feb 15, 2007 5:08:36 GMT 8
do really taste them? eeeeeeeeeeewwww... TOLITS ah!!!
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Post by Bernardo Carpio on Feb 15, 2007 7:22:07 GMT 8
I remember my professor back in College, Dr Mecki (a former PSC Commissioner) said that there is no such thing as PASMA coz it has NO SCIENTIFIC NAME Taking a bath after a strenous activity is simply lowering body temperature.
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Post by qt_kat on Feb 15, 2007 11:10:15 GMT 8
I'll repost what I've stated on the first page of this thread... There is no such thing as "pasma". No medical term for it. You can take a bath all you want and nothing will happen. One last thing.... "To each his own". Bottom line is it would still be up to the person if he believes in pasma or not. But in medicine, there is no such thing as PASMA.
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Post by gadgets88 on Feb 15, 2007 17:18:00 GMT 8
fresh water is different from salt water (beach) after exercise you can swim over the sea as long as you want and there is no effect after all... compare to swim or take a bath over the fresh water ill tried it for several times...there is a big difference between the two as my experience conclusion: its better to take a bath in salt water than fresh water True, swimming in salt water is soothing compared to fresh water because it replenishes the body of salt to avoid dehydration and cramping. That's why old folks remedies include peeing in our legs during extended swimming sessions. Of course, during those times in the 1980's, we didn't have gatorade. Now, 3 options we have: gatorade, salt shower, or pee. Basically same ingredients. ;D
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Post by gadgets88 on Feb 15, 2007 17:28:07 GMT 8
what about those nodules (or in manghihilot's term-lamig) trapped in the bodies that they try to break-up (even PT does it, right)? The way Manang Hilot explained it to me: When we overtrain, muscles uptight, exposing tired muscles to cold weather, walking barefoot on tiles, "lamig nodules" occurs. Massaging them breaks the nodules down and allows normal circulation. So... I get my weekly massage from a home service agency. Very affordable, but skill of several masseuse differ greatly.
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Post by pjax on Feb 17, 2007 16:06:47 GMT 8
great that was supposed to be taken lightly but ok since you took it on pasma. while there may be no english translation for it, hands do sweat, do shake after getting it wet. just yesterday a doctor was on the radio and was talking about such. a doctor, a science person, so you HAVE TO believe what he said he said, after repeating what has been said in this thread too many times (no such english word for pasma), that the sweating and shaking is actually a normal reaction of the body to such a change in temperaturesomeone also asked him if it's true that a person shouldn't take a bath immediately after work, tired and all. he said it's ok since we usually bathe warm water (which is kinda weird because we usually don't). he recommended people resting first before taking a bath especially to those who do really tiring manual labor. now i didn't get the name of the doctor, nor the radio station, but i'm willing to bet anything (here we go again with the betting. i'll be extra careful with my words) that i could find a doctor who would say the same things... about resting first, warm water... Who would you rather believe? The science and research regarding cold baths or your friendly neighborhood mechanic and taxi driver? Right on Julio. this is one thing i cant understand with some folks. they tend to believe "other people" more than the doctors and the experts.
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Post by pjax on Feb 17, 2007 16:19:55 GMT 8
The study didn't show that the symptoms of pasma (sweaty palms, trembling hands) doesn't happen. PASMA: AN OCCUPATIONAL PERSPECTIVE ON A TRADITIONAL ILLNESS This study aims to define pasma as an occupational health concern in the context of conditions experienced by foundry workers. The 84 subjects were chosen purposively from metal foundries located around Metro Manila and nearby provincial areas. These are workers who were exposed to hot environment in their processes. Interview-type questionnaire were administered to the subjects to elicit personal data, occupational history, working hours, workplace perception, symptoms related to heat stress, and work habits and practices. The respondents were asked questions on their beliefs and understanding in the concept of pasma. Regardless of educational attainment, almost all of the respondents (83 out of 84) believe in pasma. Many of the workers said that they learned of the concept of pasma from their parents or relatives (87%), co-workers (24%), friends (15%), and traditional medicine practitioners (herbularyos) (7%). The respondents mentioned a variety of symptoms they believe are associated with pasma. Sweaty palms and soles, trembling of hands, and profuse sweating were the most common responses. The wide variety of the responses of the subjects on the cause, symptoms and cure showed that there is no universal concept of pasma. In order to prevent having pasma, most of the workers who believe in this concept, avoid taking baths and washing their hands after work. This study showed that traditional beliefs could greatly affect work habits and practices, which could compromise their health and safety. The challenge is for traditional beliefs such as pasma to be unlearned for an occupational safety and health program to succeed. Thus, the formulation and implementation of any occupational safety and health programs should take into account such prevailing cultural biases in the workplace. Source : www.oshc.dole.gov.ph/page.php?pid=118&PHPSESSID=d997f7223fc2cf0e7138854f5eb295fd
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Post by whoopi on Feb 19, 2007 10:47:10 GMT 8
taking the docs' word for it: i'm not believeing in pasma, mainly because i've taken many cold showers immediately after getting home from a long hot ride and i've never experienced it. i tend to think of pasma similar to "usog", when you greet an infant and you give him colic or something. many mothers would rather not take the risk. ;D
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Post by konablack on Feb 19, 2007 15:40:59 GMT 8
so it's ok to take a bath after a long ride?
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Post by Julio on Feb 19, 2007 16:17:10 GMT 8
I would say that would be much much better than NOT TAKING A BATH after a long ride ;D
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Post by kulot_salot on Feb 19, 2007 16:29:18 GMT 8
The study didn't show that the symptoms of pasma (sweaty palms, trembling hands) doesn't happen. hhhmmmm.... sweaty palms, trembling hand? baka iba ang sakit? ;D i mean, maybe epilepsy.... ;D
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Post by nhan on Feb 19, 2007 19:29:01 GMT 8
just curious... i'm no scientist but how about sudden change in temperature? whole day of biking under enormous heat of the sun with a refreshing reward in the end, a dip in the river or falls with almost ref type cold water.... just a thought if it still have negative impact... personally i tried it... but want to be sure in your point of views... syempre it good to be safe and sure
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Post by <:jun®:> on Feb 19, 2007 19:49:08 GMT 8
i know some people who give their bike a bath instead after a long ride... ;D
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Post by Patrick on Feb 19, 2007 19:56:47 GMT 8
i know some people who give their bike a bath instead after a long ride... ;D Will the bike get pasma too?
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Post by nhan on Feb 19, 2007 20:17:34 GMT 8
i know some people who give their bike a bath instead after a long ride... ;D oi oi oi... you got me there hehe ;D but seriously, will it have negative impact? or maybe in the long run?
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Post by g.b.b on Feb 20, 2007 11:41:29 GMT 8
just curious... i'm no scientist but how about sudden change in temperature? whole day of biking under enormous heat of the sun with a refreshing reward in the end, a dip in the river or falls with almost ref type cold water.... just a thought if it still have negative impact... personally i tried it... but want to be sure in your point of views... syempre it good to be safe and sure i think this is where the LBP (lower back pain) starts..... or muscle cramps every now and then....... coz i noticed that before i did not have any muscle cramps in playing basketball, running and biking...... but when i start doin "taking a bath after biking" i noticed that im having cramps (pulikat), LBP and all that...... but pasma never showed.
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Post by mzmn on Feb 20, 2007 12:47:24 GMT 8
Even with years at the gym and immediately taking a shower afterwards, no ill effects: no sweaty palms or the like. However, washing my face after a long day at the office without using warm water, my eyes would get very lazy the next day. Hmmm... no explanation for it. Anyone know?
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Post by trailblaster on Feb 20, 2007 15:03:01 GMT 8
hehe.. is it the same as, "after ironing your clothes, don't wash hands or even take a bath immediately. ;D
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Post by pazigrider on Feb 20, 2007 17:42:22 GMT 8
if you're really in doubt - then do it the other way around: take a bath first before riding ;D
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Post by pjax on Mar 3, 2007 19:41:23 GMT 8
just want to reiterate my point. taking a bath immediately after riding may get veins appear on your skin. it happened to me and some other people. perhaps this is a personal thing... it happens to some people but not others. if you suspect ugly veins showing on your legs/foot/hands, this is just a thought
i do not believe in the word "pasma" but the symptoms do happen to some people. do not dispel the 'pasma' phenomenon just because there is no english word for it... there may not be a single word that encompasses the whole phenomenon, but there is such such an english phrase as 'trembling hands and sweaty fingers'. the heck, does this mean that 'isaw' and 'halo-halo' does not exist because there's no english word for it?
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Post by Great Teacher Ulysses on Mar 5, 2007 13:56:20 GMT 8
this is a very long Pasma issue....
all i can say is this... Lagot Kayo sa Lola Nyo!!! nyahahaha!!!! (trans: grandma is angy now na!) nyahahahaha!!!
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Post by 3d3r on Mar 8, 2007 21:46:20 GMT 8
There are lots of filipino terms that I usually dont believe in. Such as Pasma, Bati(balis or Usog), Lagnat laki, Namatanda, na-aswang. ;D. Is there anything else?
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Post by trailblaster on Mar 13, 2007 9:50:46 GMT 8
i guess, "natikbalang" inside the trails will do! hehehe! ;D ;D ;D
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Post by nell7806 on May 9, 2007 22:43:04 GMT 8
I've done it for 3 years , buhay pa naman ako I've taken a long run or bike then direcho swimming sa pool , ok naman However, this really seems to tick a few people off They tell you- hantayin mo pag tanda mo, jan mo mararamdaman All I have to say is - when I'm old and gray , how the @#$$ would I know taking a bath after exerc ise is causing my hands to shake. Pero para safe , magpahinga ka na nga lang muna hehe Sir I dont want to scare you...just want to share something that really happen. Back in our town in Bulacan, I know this guy who has a habbit of taking a bath after playing basketball, he's around 10yrs a senior to me...one day after having a short off road route, I try to shoot some hoofs...when I reach the public municipal court, most of them are murmuring about someone... ...Of a guy well known for his talent of playing good basketball and his nickname is like to mean like speedy or something. all the folks that new him said that it's his habbit to take a bath after playing basketball... the reason why they are telling stories of him is because he was not able to woke up from sleeping...he passed away a few hours before I reach the court...Cardiac arrest??? maybe??? For me...it could be the sudden change of our inner temperature and pressure... one thing is...most humans are not capable of adapting such drastic changes mostly in temperatures. thats why for me it would be better to take a lil bit of rest if your not in a hurry... This "pasma" is not yet proven by science yet... but how can we explain those scenario w/c are related to it... Just Take Care...we all know that we only live once.
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