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Post by jobyoreta on Aug 15, 2007 23:15:07 GMT 8
there's a very good article about getting started with clipless pedals in this month's isssue of mountainbike action. They actually say not to practice on grass. Grass daw will rob you of forward momentum. This pa naman daw is what you need when you start to clip in. Practicing daw on hard pack dirt is a much better alternative. Also, as mentioned in the article, practice first with just 1 foot clipped in. Then try the other one after, before finally clipping in both feet.
Hope this is useful.
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Post by dranrev on Aug 16, 2007 6:21:58 GMT 8
I just got my clipless shoes and I hope won't forget all of your tips
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Post by dranrev on Aug 16, 2007 19:45:21 GMT 8
I had my first fall today. Lesson learned disengage before stopping . Practice practice and practice. Hopefully in a few weeks I will get used to it.
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Post by lucasvn on Aug 16, 2007 22:09:58 GMT 8
Hi,
I also got my clipless pedals and shoes yesterday and tried it in the road today, so far with ur tips di pa sumesemplang. Hope sa trail same pa rin.
regards, Charles
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Post by jobyoreta on Aug 17, 2007 9:02:44 GMT 8
I think part of the lure of clipless pedals is the "I'm a serious biker" look. Hehehe! (not to mention, all the really cool looking shoes and pedals)
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Post by mountguitars on Aug 17, 2007 10:56:59 GMT 8
I think part of the lure of clipless pedals is the "I'm a serious biker" look. Hehehe! (not to mention, all the really cool looking shoes and pedals) on my case, i just wanted to kill my curiosity. now, i got hooked. ;D if you're not wearing clipless pedals, your missing half of your biking life. ;D there are exemptions though like our bike trials brothers.
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Post by jobyoreta on Aug 18, 2007 22:46:35 GMT 8
I remember when I first tried getting used to clipless pedals. I would do it inside the house... hehehe. That way, whenever I would start to lose my balance, I would just grab hold of a chair to stop me from falling. Of course my wife gave me hell when she found out what I was doing! Haaaay, all the hardships we have to go through for mountainbiking!!
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Post by dranrev on Aug 20, 2007 16:54:56 GMT 8
I don't have problem while riding. I got my first wound on my knee today. Lesson learned disengage on both feet and don't panic I fall again on the wrong side ;D I know I will get used to it ...............after there are no place to put scars on my knees hehehe. Pain is temporary quitting lasts forever. Yebahhhhh
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Post by nell7806 on Aug 20, 2007 18:53:38 GMT 8
I don't have problem while riding. I got my first wound on my knee today. Lesson learned disengage on both feet and don't panic I fall again on the wrong side ;D I know I will get used to it ...............after there are no place to put scars on my knees hehehe. Pain is temporary quitting lasts forever. Yebahhhhh thats my brother! ! ! ;D ;D ;D GO! GO! GO!
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Post by blag on Aug 21, 2007 9:34:09 GMT 8
Hello everyone. I'm a newbie here. Bought my clipless shoes and pedals about three months ago, and since then I have lost track on how many times I have fallen off my bike. Or rather, how many times I have fallen to the ground with my bike! It was always the classic case of unclipping my left foot and falling to the right. Argh!! What the??? Anyhoo, after more scars and bruises I have decided to wear good old regular shoes again--until I became a member of this forum and began to read this thread, that is. Thank you guys for all the tips. As a woman I sure wouldn't want too many "badges of honor" running down my legs. Hehe. Still, as many of you put it, practice makes perfect. I will wear them clipless again this weekend and concentrate on technique instead of obsessing about clipping and unclipping. Go with the flow, and soon things will become instinctive. Did I get that advice right? Thanks!!!!
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Post by arcireyes on Aug 21, 2007 9:47:03 GMT 8
to repeat my previous post.......... buy a multi release cleats and install that to your shoes. i'm also a newbie clipless user and IMHO multi release cleats being a bit more "softer' to unclip makes the transition easier and more confidence-boosting. until you have developed the muscle memory (of unclippng) stay with the multi-release cleats muna. HTH ma'am
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Post by Allan on Aug 21, 2007 10:07:51 GMT 8
to repeat my previous post.......... buy a multi release cleats and install that to your shoes. i'm also a newbie clipless user and IMHO multi release cleats being a bit more "softer' to unclip makes the transition easier and more confidence-boosting. until you have developed the muscle memory (of unclippng) stay with the multi-release cleats muna. HTH ma'am +1 on multi release cleats then set your pedals to lowest tension...it will unclip by itself pag sesemplang ka na ;D..you can unclip in multiple directions..unlike regular cleats sideways lang..
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Post by warlock^_^ on Aug 21, 2007 10:24:50 GMT 8
yep! 2 thumbs up even my 2 big toes are pointing up for Multirelease Cleats
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Post by RickShox on Aug 21, 2007 11:25:31 GMT 8
The problem with multi-release cleats is they sometimes unclip on rockies when riding downhill. And that's usually the part where you really need your feet to be on your pedals.
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Post by arcireyes on Aug 21, 2007 11:40:37 GMT 8
but the point here is the transition period and i believe this type of terrain may cover but perhaps 1-5% of a "newbie-trying-out-clipless" ride ;D but this precaution is well noted anyways The problem with multi-release cleats is they sometimes unclip on rockies when riding downhill. And that's usually the part where you really need your foot to be on your pedals.
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Post by Ben Dover on Aug 21, 2007 12:25:31 GMT 8
given that your cleats were mounted and adjusted properly, the more scared you are the steeper the learning curve (talking from experience )...concentrate on controlling your bike and staying with it rather than on engaging and disengaging the pedals...it will follow naturally.
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Post by mrkamot on Aug 21, 2007 13:04:08 GMT 8
do you guys have some tips on keeping your cleats clean during the trails? just went to roxas at maarat yesterday and as you have guessed it, half of the time i couldn't clip in because of all the mud (a weeks worth of raining in maarat has made most of the parts of roxas clay). any tips would be greatly appreciated!!!
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Post by dranrev on Aug 21, 2007 15:19:46 GMT 8
I am using multi release. I should lower the tension on the spring.
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Post by blag on Aug 21, 2007 19:18:53 GMT 8
...concentrate on controlling your bike and staying with it rather than on engaging and disengaging the pedals...it will follow naturally. Will do! ... I use the wimpy Shimano M424, the type with the cage. (Yikes!) It's cheap(er) and I figured since I'm still in the transition stage the pair will do for now. I'll definitely consider going "all the way" when I've gathered enough confidence with this one, and might even go for the multi-release type. This is a very wonderful site, by the way. Very informative and helpful. I have been learning a lot the last few days. Thank you PinoyMTBiker!
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Post by marcs on Aug 21, 2007 20:35:49 GMT 8
do you guys have some tips on keeping your cleats clean during the trails? just went to roxas at maarat yesterday and as you have guessed it, half of the time i couldn't clip in because of all the mud (a weeks worth of raining in maarat has made most of the parts of roxas clay). any tips would be greatly appreciated!!! stay clipped seriously, before the mud hardens, clip and and unclip to take the mud off from your cleats.
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Post by Ben Dover on Aug 21, 2007 23:33:22 GMT 8
do you guys have some tips on keeping your cleats clean during the trails? just went to roxas at maarat yesterday and as you have guessed it, half of the time i couldn't clip in because of all the mud (a weeks worth of raining in maarat has made most of the parts of roxas clay). any tips would be greatly appreciated!!! before you engage the cleat again, give the pedal a little tap or two with your shoe..cleat hitting the pedal (metal to metal) should knock off some of the dirt enough for you engage again comfortably...if not, magbaon ka ng stick ng banana-q.
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Post by mountguitars on Aug 22, 2007 2:43:04 GMT 8
but the point here is the transition period and i believe this type of terrain may cover but perhaps 1-5% of a "newbie-trying-out-clipless" ride ;D but this precaution is well noted anyways The problem with multi-release cleats is they sometimes unclip on rockies when riding downhill. And that's usually the part where you really need your foot to be on your pedals. i used to have multi release cleats. i bought them when i almost gave up on clipless pedals. i wanted to give clipless pedals a chance talaga so i did my best to make it work. and luckily, it did. i gained confidence. i gained confidence to the point that i dont want the multi release cleats any more and that i wanted to be secure. the problem with multi release cleats kasi is you can disengage at almost any direction and that's not good over technical terrain. in fact, on technical terrain, you wanna be clipped in real tight. ;D . it gives me the creeps pag madaling mag disengage. i know those who use multi release cleat users will feel the same. its just a matter of time and exposure to technical terrain kung kelan ka babalik to using regular cleats. yes, you will use regular cleats whether you like it or not. multi release cleats are transitional equipment. its like the 'extra/training wheels' on the sides ng kid's bikes, hehe. ;D. meaning sooner or later you will get the idea.
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Post by mountguitars on Aug 22, 2007 2:52:50 GMT 8
do you guys have some tips on keeping your cleats clean during the trails? just went to roxas at maarat yesterday and as you have guessed it, half of the time i couldn't clip in because of all the mud (a weeks worth of raining in maarat has made most of the parts of roxas clay). any tips would be greatly appreciated!!! stay clipped seriously, before the mud hardens, clip and and unclip to take the mud off from your cleats. marcs has a very good tip. or sometimes it could be the type of pedals that you're using. ;D there are mudshedding pedals and those that do not shed mud ;D. a typical comparison would be shimano's M540 vs the M515. or if you want a pedal that's good in shedding mud, reliable, and lightweight, get yourself a crankbrothers eggbeater pedal. its not a 100% mudshedding but its definitely better than a shimano as far as shedding mud is concerned. ;D
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Post by dv1kwh on Oct 8, 2007 16:51:13 GMT 8
Finally got my clipless debut yesterday at Neo loop. Thank you guys for the tips.......really enjoy going clipless
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Post by mrkamot on Oct 8, 2007 18:02:02 GMT 8
clipless on cornering : on flats before when cornering i could adjust my feet accordingly ie. if i turn to the right i point my toes to the right and lean more. with clipless you can't point your toe to the direction of the turn. how do you guys compensate?
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Post by docalvin on Oct 8, 2007 20:01:43 GMT 8
mrkamot, stick your knee out a bit more if you're gonna lean on a fast corner. Its more of your body position while cornering rather than foot position.
As MTB Axn magazine stated, do the attack position even if you're clipped in.
Another thing, watch fourcross/mountaincross videos & observe racers doing corners. They're all clipped in yet they corner as if they're on rails. Watch them stick out their knees then pedal out.
Try doing this on trails & you'll immediately build confidence.
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Post by angelobryant on Oct 16, 2007 8:27:15 GMT 8
Been clipless for the past month and no fall yet due to being clipless. I have multi release cleats btw.
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Post by leflea on Oct 16, 2007 12:28:35 GMT 8
got my 647 with single release cleats... so no choice, no transition period for me. good thing is i was already psychologically prepared before i bought my pedals.
before, when i still had platforms, i made it a point not to take any foot off the pedals in any situation, hence, improving my balance. did that for a long time, even in heavy traffic on a highway.
when i had my clipless, i practiced disengaging a lot of times when i just felt like doing it. simulated situations where i had to disengage at the spur of the moment split second impulse. practised on paved roads, steep uphill, and downhill sections, on different scenarios. kept doing it and it became second nature. of course engaging isn't too much of a problem because of the cage.
results: no semplang (yet) ;D had close encounters but managed to effectively uncleat. practice, or learn it the hard way: semplang (spills!).
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Post by docalvin on Oct 16, 2007 16:44:57 GMT 8
if you still cant get a hang of being clipped-in & are still having problems disenganging for over a number of months now, its okay to go for platform pedals for trail riding.
Its nothing to be ashamed of. ;D
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Post by john on Nov 15, 2007 10:31:02 GMT 8
am a convert now, i got my clipless earlier this week with new shoes . thanks for the tips bros. so far i am enjoying it. push.... pull. already had my first fall in a pavement .... luckily had the chance to bail out immediately, i was too eager to try it out, i unclipped my right foot to dap on the road when i stopped, but my bike leaned on the left... so bang.... lesson learned for me: - try to concentrate first on your weak side (muscle memory). am a right sided person, so tendency is to select my right foot first when i stop. - now when i pedal out... i clip in my right foot first - have tried to select / shift to a lower gear just to anticipate possible traffic, you might need to unclip when we are forced to stop, atleast when you roll, it wont be very hard to pedal out and clip the other foot. havent been to trails lately, more practice for me before hitting one. hth btw, my shoes have studs infront... haven't installed them yet, do you guys use these studs?.... they look like fangs of a snake . i think they're appropriate to use if the conditions are muddy.
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