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Post by bz06 on May 7, 2018 14:00:09 GMT 8
Hi PinoyMTBiker. My 26 is a bit long in the tooth already (and quite smallish for me) and I have some funds set aside. Budget of about 16-17k.
Frame: Cole Massif 29er stealth black and red Fork: XCR Air Wheelset: Undecided. Maybe anything between 5-7k
Carry over from my 26er. Groupset: Alivio 9speed with 1x conversion Brakes: shimano non-series. Cockpit: Shimano PRO tharsis 700mm handlebar and 70mm stem. Pedals: Saint flats.
I plan to sell off my 2013 Giant ATX 26er frame and Shimano MT15 wheelset. As for my Epicon fork, will be slapping that onto my wife's Cannondale.
1. Is my upgrade path ok? For XC riding mostly. 2. How much is the selling price for my frame and wheelset? 3. What's a good 29er wheelset for P5-7k?
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Post by anthrax76 on May 7, 2018 22:35:13 GMT 8
let's see, first, changing from 26 to 29 is not an upgrade. it's a change of wheel size. selling price, no idea, actually up to you. IMO, you'd be lucky to sell it for 5k, because of 6.5K you can pretty much get a built bike. no idea on the wheelset too, sorry. normally i'd rather get a good wheelbuilder and get cheap parts. Glorious Ride has a sale recently, you might want to give them a call, I bought items from them before during their sale and they're pretty affordable
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Post by spyghost on May 8, 2018 6:16:41 GMT 8
Hi PinoyMTBiker. My 26 is a bit long in the tooth already (and quite smallish for me) and I have some funds set aside. Budget of about 16-17k. Frame: Cole Massif 29er stealth black and red Fork: XCR Air Wheelset: Undecided. Maybe anything between 5-7k Carry over from my 26er. Groupset: Alivio 9speed with 1x conversion Brakes: shimano non-series. Cockpit: Shimano PRO tharsis 700mm handlebar and 70mm stem. Pedals: Saint flats. I plan to sell off my 2013 Giant ATX 26er frame and Shimano MT15 wheelset. As for my Epicon fork, will be slapping that onto my wife's Cannondale. 1. Is my upgrade path ok? For XC riding mostly. 2. How much is the selling price for my frame and wheelset? 3. What's a good 29er wheelset for P5-7k? i suggest ipon pa ng onti para makakuha ka nalang ng built bike at or near 20k range. imo less hassle at brand new pa lahat. just cherry pick the stuff you want from your old bike to your new one like the cockpit and pedals. just dispose your 26 as dirt cheap or use for harabas, commuting, or if you're into DJ stuff you may get the wheelset and transfer to a DJ frame. to add to your confusion (if i may lol)... you might want to consider 27.5 as the tire options in the PH market are better compared to 29er. i use 29 btw and tire options locally are sh!t.
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Post by bz06 on May 8, 2018 8:57:23 GMT 8
let's see, first, changing from 26 to 29 is not an upgrade. it's a change of wheel size. selling price, no idea, actually up to you. IMO, you'd be lucky to sell it for 5k, because of 6.5K you can pretty much get a built bike. no idea on the wheelset too, sorry. normally i'd rather get a good wheelbuilder and get cheap parts. Glorious Ride has a sale recently, you might want to give them a call, I bought items from them before during their sale and they're pretty affordable Puwede rin on the wheelbuilder suggestion. At least choice of hubs and rims pa ko. Thanks for that! 👍
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Post by bz06 on May 8, 2018 9:03:09 GMT 8
Hi PinoyMTBiker. My 26 is a bit long in the tooth already (and quite smallish for me) and I have some funds set aside. Budget of about 16-17k. Frame: Cole Massif 29er stealth black and red Fork: XCR Air Wheelset: Undecided. Maybe anything between 5-7k Carry over from my 26er. Groupset: Alivio 9speed with 1x conversion Brakes: shimano non-series. Cockpit: Shimano PRO tharsis 700mm handlebar and 70mm stem. Pedals: Saint flats. I plan to sell off my 2013 Giant ATX 26er frame and Shimano MT15 wheelset. As for my Epicon fork, will be slapping that onto my wife's Cannondale. 1. Is my upgrade path ok? For XC riding mostly. 2. How much is the selling price for my frame and wheelset? 3. What's a good 29er wheelset for P5-7k? i suggest ipon pa ng onti para makakuha ka nalang ng built bike at or near 20k range. imo less hassle at brand new pa lahat. just cherry pick the stuff you want from your old bike to your new one like the cockpit and pedals. just dispose your 26 as dirt cheap or use for harabas, commuting, or if you're into DJ stuff you may get the wheelset and transfer to a DJ frame. to add to your confusion (if i may lol)... you might want to consider 27.5 as the tire options in the PH market are better compared to 29er. i use 29 btw and tire options locally are sh!t. Didn't know the limited 29er tire options locally. I was thinking bigger wheels cause I'm at the age that I'd rather bulldoze an obstacle. Kung may affordable 27.5+ sana. As for built bike. Ok rin kaso nasanay na ko sa air fork and most entry level have XCT or XCM coil forks. Rather spend an extra few and get an XCR air or even Epixon which is dagdag pa if I go the built route. BTW may kapresyo ba si Epixon sa Manitou air forks?
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Post by jrocket803 on May 8, 2018 9:34:39 GMT 8
i suggest ipon pa ng onti para makakuha ka nalang ng built bike at or near 20k range. imo less hassle at brand new pa lahat. just cherry pick the stuff you want from your old bike to your new one like the cockpit and pedals. just dispose your 26 as dirt cheap or use for harabas, commuting, or if you're into DJ stuff you may get the wheelset and transfer to a DJ frame. to add to your confusion (if i may lol)... you might want to consider 27.5 as the tire options in the PH market are better compared to 29er. i use 29 btw and tire options locally are sh!t. Didn't know the limited 29er tire options locally. I was thinking bigger wheels cause I'm at the age that I'd rather bulldoze an obstacle. Kung may affordable 27.5+ sana. As for built bike. Ok rin kaso nasanay na ko sa air fork and most entry level have XCT or XCM coil forks. Rather spend an extra few and get an XCR air or even Epixon which is dagdag pa if I go the built route. BTW may kapresyo ba si Epixon sa Manitou air forks? Parehas tayo ng iniisip... gusto ko na lang din sagasaan mga obstacle sa trail😂 Kaya im also moving up wheelsize 27.5 to29er, but the bike that i got can accommodate 2wheel sizes, 29er and 27.5plus. Para dehins agad manawa sa isang wheelsize 😁😂
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Post by chrislang on Nov 4, 2018 23:55:22 GMT 8
Hi PinoyMTBiker. My 26 is a bit long in the tooth already (and quite smallish for me) and I have some funds set aside. Budget of about 16-17k. Frame: Cole Massif 29er stealth black and red Fork: XCR Air Wheelset: Undecided. Maybe anything between 5-7k Carry over from my 26er. Groupset: Alivio 9speed with 1x conversion Brakes: shimano non-series. Cockpit: Shimano PRO tharsis 700mm handlebar and 70mm stem. Pedals: Saint flats. I plan to sell off my 2013 Giant ATX 26er frame and Shimano MT15 wheelset. As for my Epicon fork, will be slapping that onto my wife's Cannondale. 1. Is my upgrade path ok? For XC riding mostly. 2. How much is the selling price for my frame and wheelset? 3. What's a good 29er wheelset for P5-7k? i suggest ipon pa ng onti para makakuha ka nalang ng built bike at or near 20k range. imo less hassle at brand new pa lahat. just cherry pick the stuff you want from your old bike to your new one like the cockpit and pedals. just dispose your 26 as dirt cheap or use for harabas, commuting, or if you're into DJ stuff you may get the wheelset and transfer to a DJ frame. to add to your confusion (if i may lol)... you might want to consider 27.5 as the tire options in the PH market are better compared to 29er. i use 29 btw and tire options locally are sh!t. On the contrary, 29er tires, rims etc are now at par or possibly more available especially on higher end ones vs 27.5. From what I have observed as a bike parts seller, beginners start at 27.5 and changes to 29ers in a few years.
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Post by spyghost on Nov 5, 2018 19:58:12 GMT 8
tough to find (or haven't been available) 29er tires in the local market which have been in the maxxis catalog for quite a while minion dhf 29x2.5 minion ss 29x2.3 ikon 29x2.35 shorty 29x2.3
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Post by chrislang on Nov 5, 2018 21:32:06 GMT 8
tough to find (or haven't been available) 29er tires in the local market which have been in the maxxis catalog for quite a while minion dhf 29x2.5 minion ss 29x2.3 ikon 29x2.35 shorty 29x2.3 Thats true, which are mostly into enduro, trail or dh market, but majority which are cross country riders or hardtails, 29er tires are all around.
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Post by chrislang on Nov 5, 2018 21:33:48 GMT 8
i suggest ipon pa ng onti para makakuha ka nalang ng built bike at or near 20k range. imo less hassle at brand new pa lahat. just cherry pick the stuff you want from your old bike to your new one like the cockpit and pedals. just dispose your 26 as dirt cheap or use for harabas, commuting, or if you're into DJ stuff you may get the wheelset and transfer to a DJ frame. to add to your confusion (if i may lol)... you might want to consider 27.5 as the tire options in the PH market are better compared to 29er. i use 29 btw and tire options locally are sh!t. On the contrary, 29er tires, rims etc are now at par or possibly more available especially on higher end ones vs 27.5. From what I have observed as a bike parts seller, beginners start at 27.5 and changes to 29ers in a few years. Cole massif is an XC hardtail, plenty of tire options.
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Post by verblkint on Nov 9, 2018 9:38:53 GMT 8
Didn't know the limited 29er tire options locally. I was thinking bigger wheels cause I'm at the age that I'd rather bulldoze an obstacle. Kung may affordable 27.5+ sana. As for built bike. Ok rin kaso nasanay na ko sa air fork and most entry level have XCT or XCM coil forks. Rather spend an extra few and get an XCR air or even Epixon which is dagdag pa if I go the built route. BTW may kapresyo ba si Epixon sa Manitou air forks? I agree with an earlier post. XC and trail tires under 2.35 are not hard to find. It's the Enduro/DH 29" tires that are at near unicorn levels in terms of sightings in the Philippines. As for the fork, I don't see any other XC fork under 20k which is head and shoulders above that of the 2018 Epixon RC2. Epixons that are tuned and adjusted properly are not that far off from the DT Swiss, Fox, and RockShox marquee models which can be as much as 3X-4X the price. The 2018 Epixon RC2 is very good value for money. I would happily ride it for XC over any Manitou, stealth colorway also looks really good.
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Post by sk8er_saix on Nov 20, 2018 6:27:34 GMT 8
I agree with an earlier post. XC and trail tires under 2.35 are not hard to find. It's the Enduro/DH 29" tires that are at near unicorn levels in terms of sightings in the Philippines. As for the fork, I don't see any other XC fork under 20k which is head and shoulders above that of the 2018 Epixon RC2. Epixons that are tuned and adjusted properly are not that far off from the DT Swiss, Fox, and RockShox marquee models which can be as much as 3X-4X the price. The 2018 Epixon RC2 is very good value for money. I would happily ride it for XC over any Manitou, stealth colorway also looks really good. OFF TOPIC: Sir, care to elaborate on why you prefer Epixon over Manitou? I'm saving up for a Manitou. Maspinili ko yung Manitou dahil sa mga nababasa ko online (overseas forums) versus Suntours (in general). Epixon is a Suntour fork, right? For context, I have an XC bike. I do roads and light trails (gravel and sand). No jumps or rocks.
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Post by chrislang on Nov 20, 2018 6:35:26 GMT 8
I agree with an earlier post. XC and trail tires under 2.35 are not hard to find. It's the Enduro/DH 29" tires that are at near unicorn levels in terms of sightings in the Philippines. As for the fork, I don't see any other XC fork under 20k which is head and shoulders above that of the 2018 Epixon RC2. Epixons that are tuned and adjusted properly are not that far off from the DT Swiss, Fox, and RockShox marquee models which can be as much as 3X-4X the price. The 2018 Epixon RC2 is very good value for money. I would happily ride it for XC over any Manitou, stealth colorway also looks really good. OFF TOPIC: Sir, care to elaborate on why you prefer Epixon over Manitou? I'm saving up for a Manitou. Maspinili ko yung Manitou dahil sa mga nababasa ko online (overseas forums) versus Suntours (in general). Epixon is a Suntour fork, right? For context, I have an XC bike. I do roads and light trails (gravel and sand). No jumps or rocks. My 2 cents, I've tried both, Markhor and Epixon. Performance is similar and weight. But mechanics from my LBS says Manitou is serviceable while for suntour epixon, its difficult to find parts. We have the same riding level, just offroad and gravel, none too technical XC. Just old school XC.
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Post by verblkint on Nov 20, 2018 10:32:23 GMT 8
I agree with an earlier post. XC and trail tires under 2.35 are not hard to find. It's the Enduro/DH 29" tires that are at near unicorn levels in terms of sightings in the Philippines. As for the fork, I don't see any other XC fork under 20k which is head and shoulders above that of the 2018 Epixon RC2. Epixons that are tuned and adjusted properly are not that far off from the DT Swiss, Fox, and RockShox marquee models which can be as much as 3X-4X the price. The 2018 Epixon RC2 is very good value for money. I would happily ride it for XC over any Manitou, stealth colorway also looks really good. OFF TOPIC: Sir, care to elaborate on why you prefer Epixon over Manitou? I'm saving up for a Manitou. Maspinili ko yung Manitou dahil sa mga nababasa ko online (overseas forums) versus Suntours (in general). Epixon is a Suntour fork, right? For context, I have an XC bike. I do roads and light trails (gravel and sand). No jumps or rocks. Epixons are easily serviceable in the Philippines. Most reputable bike shops can service it or at least knows a mechanic who can. Not so with Manitous. And you can even DIY it if you have the patience to go through youtube videos and can afford to make mistakes. There is a bias in the West against Suntour because this is the fork that they see in their supermarkets. Truth is, Suntour does make bad forks, there are the really cheap ones that come with the low-end mtb's all over the world. But they also make good ones too, particularly the RC2 and R2C2 variants. When you look at the forks at the XC races of the asia mountainbike series (I'm always there as a race official), hardly anybody uses Manitous. It's either Fox, RockShox, the odd DT Swiss, and lots of Epicons/Epixons. If you're looking for value for money, the Epixon RC2 is it.
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Post by jrocket803 on Nov 20, 2018 11:02:58 GMT 8
OFF TOPIC: Sir, care to elaborate on why you prefer Epixon over Manitou? I'm saving up for a Manitou. Maspinili ko yung Manitou dahil sa mga nababasa ko online (overseas forums) versus Suntours (in general). Epixon is a Suntour fork, right? For context, I have an XC bike. I do roads and light trails (gravel and sand). No jumps or rocks. Epixons are easily serviceable in the Philippines. Most reputable bike shops can service it or at least knows a mechanic who can. Not so with Manitous. And you can even DIY it if you have the patience to go through youtube videos and can afford to make mistakes. There is a bias in the West against Suntour because this is the fork that they see in their supermarkets. Truth is, Suntour does make bad forks, there are the really cheap ones that come with the low-end mtb's all over the world. But they also make good ones too, particularly the RC2 and R2C2 variants. When you look at the forks at the XC races of the asia mountainbike series (I'm always there as a race official), hardly anybody uses Manitous. It's either Fox, RockShox, the odd DT Swiss, and lots of Epicons/Epixons. If you're looking for value for money, the Epixon RC2 is it. True. Their mid to highend forks are as good as the well known brands, Auron, Aion, durolux, totem this are all good forks. DVO forks and shox are made in suntour’s factory.
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