lloyd
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Post by lloyd on Nov 29, 2006 17:20:15 GMT 8
Yap, practice makes perfect. I can use my freeride/DH bike for climbing but on power stroke mode... not on spinning mode as what I can do on my XC bike. Freeride/Dh bikes are one hell of a load when climning...
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Post by Dragunov on Dec 1, 2006 2:34:10 GMT 8
PADYAK! PADYAK! PADYAK!!! then XTR! XTR! XTR! then CARBON! CARBON! CARBON! ;D ;D ;D
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Ka Verong
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Post by Ka Verong on Jun 25, 2007 16:46:13 GMT 8
how stiff is stiff?
Me & some of the guys I ride with can climb 45° (if my eyes will be the judge it can be more) on an FR/DH rig, its a matter of practice.
Its harder to attain on this setup but its doable, I shift lowest gear in order to spin pedal in a very circular fashion. Trasfer my weight on middle of the bike as much as possible (i.e. at the tip of the saddle) So, it has to be seated. No standing, otherwise the rear would skid. On the road its very diff, all you need is leg power.
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Post by Alphabolt on Jun 25, 2007 18:59:32 GMT 8
how stiff is stiff? Me & some of the guys I ride with can climb 45° (if my eyes will be the judge it can be more) on an FR/DH rig, its a matter of practice. Its harder to attain on this setup but its doable, I shift lowest gear in order to spin pedal in a very circular fashion. Trasfer my weight on middle of the bike as much as possible (i.e. at the tip of the saddle) So, it has to be seated. No standing, otherwise the rear would skid. On the road its very diff, all you need is leg power. 45deg is super steep , brad that s half vertical already ... maybe 30deg incline?
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Post by Bikester on Jun 25, 2007 22:21:52 GMT 8
How steep (most steep part,degree)is the "wall" in maarat?
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Ka Verong
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Post by Ka Verong on Jun 28, 2007 15:05:27 GMT 8
well... the more than 45 is my exageration... but the 45° isn't... that is why I had had so many balentongs (back flip). Anyway we can't contest this cause that's just my buttessment, no measuring tool whatsoever. But 30° is way too low. Cause if a 4 wheel vehicle, can climb an incline to a max of almost 40°, how much more a bike, where you can transfer rider's weight? But then again, just as I said before, its just my personal assessment, but I sure hope you'll find it challenging to climb beyond 40° incline. Kahit man lang para mga mata mo lang (even in your own eyes only) how stiff is stiff? Me & some of the guys I ride with can climb 45° (if my eyes will be the judge it can be more) on an FR/DH rig, its a matter of practice. Its harder to attain on this setup but its doable, I shift lowest gear in order to spin pedal in a very circular fashion. Trasfer my weight on middle of the bike as much as possible (i.e. at the tip of the saddle) So, it has to be seated. No standing, otherwise the rear would skid. On the road its very diff, all you need is leg power. 45deg is super steep , brad that s half vertical already ... maybe 30deg incline?
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Post by jr on Jun 28, 2007 21:31:35 GMT 8
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Post by bao on Jun 29, 2007 2:17:22 GMT 8
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Post by mountguitars on Jun 29, 2007 3:34:36 GMT 8
hmmm...........i think im getting it.
there's a different standard for measuring how steep a road is.
but if you dont know the standard of how to measure the steepness, we turn over to the simple 360 degree thing.
0 is flat, say pointing right. 90 is vertical, pointing up. 180 would reach the other end so it goes flat again, pointing left. 270 is vertical, pointing down. 360 is a full circle so it goes back to 0.
so when we say 45 degrees, its in between 0 and 90 degrees. so its pointing right-up or kinda like in a compass, dead on north-east.
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Post by kulot_salot on Jun 29, 2007 8:59:31 GMT 8
sections of the trad mount irid trail is rated 45°...
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Post by Ben Dover on Jun 29, 2007 11:04:38 GMT 8
oh c'mon guys! my former student ryan leech can climb a vertical wall, boulders etc hehehe! ;D (j/k!) maybe it also depends on lenght/distance of the actual climb...if its only a few yards, then there should be no problem.
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Ka Verong
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Post by Ka Verong on Jul 3, 2007 10:43:01 GMT 8
We are not talkin bout roads nor BMX here, rather MTB dirt right?
You will never find 45° road, if there's one, it must have been constructed out of mistake.
You can find BMX ramps with near 90° slope.
Hopping over the of the table is considered a 90° obstacle, and some riders do it without a sweat.
My point here is, we average skilled MTB riders can also conquer steep climbs beyond 45, just don't be disheartened when you're already facing the wall. With the right momentum, proper gearing, correct body position, who knows we might be able to attain our impossibles.
Have a happy riding guys.
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Post by Alphabolt on Jul 14, 2007 12:11:52 GMT 8
Lesson learned : let s have someone in the group bring a protractor (cheap and light) for hellrides. It would be interesting to know the details of our rides ...and feel strong after knowing what we conquered
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Post by kulot_salot on Jul 14, 2007 13:18:12 GMT 8
i'll bring one tomorrow...
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Post by jroomjack on Sept 27, 2007 8:32:02 GMT 8
practice and leg power can solve those problem Sir!
like me before, we got this uphill trail here in our place that at first I think I could never climb coz its steep and the road is so loose and rocky. my front wheel tends to "wheelie" also in my many tries but I keep on pushing myself to the limit every time I go to this trail. Since this trail is just 7 kms from my home, I see to it that every saturday morning I can go there. For now am proud to say that I could climb the trail with just 3 stops unlike in my early attempts it would take me 10 to 15 stops! I started climbing this trail last January of this year, hope can climb this trail without stopping before this year ends.
leg power and familiarity of the trail is a great help!
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Post by flipnidaho on Sept 27, 2007 19:34:16 GMT 8
i'm guessing this is at about 45 degrees (pictures never really show how steep a trail is). i'm guessing that maarat, at it's steepest, is around 18 degrees...
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Post by Ben Dover on Sept 27, 2007 22:32:22 GMT 8
geezzzz! that's spiderman right there without his usual costume!
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Post by Alphabolt on Sept 28, 2007 0:03:04 GMT 8
i'm guessing this is at about 45 degrees (pictures never really show how steep a trail is). i'm guessing that maarat, at it's steepest, is around 18 degrees... OMG (Oh my gulay!) that sure is steep , brad! who s that ? you ? that s an animal section ...for mountain goats only ;D ;D Uber nice picture
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Post by extendead on Sept 28, 2007 2:55:55 GMT 8
wow... nice ahon.. i hope the entrance to that portion is sweet .. para good bwelo...
hmmm... if that is very steep.. it nice for a short DH run.. hehehe
sir... padyakk!!!
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Post by rocky on Sept 28, 2007 4:14:57 GMT 8
Man oh Man. That climb reminded me of MOAB Slickrock. I am out of here. I quit!
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Post by flipnidaho on Sept 28, 2007 4:37:04 GMT 8
the hardest part of that "wall" is actually the run up to it. it's heavy moab sand so you can't build up speed... stick-e tires help!
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Post by 32by18 on Sept 28, 2007 9:34:29 GMT 8
the hardest part of that "wall" is actually the run up to it. it's heavy moab sand so you can't build up speed... stick-e tires help! Gary! Nice pic - would make for excellent wallpaper...it definitely falls under the "steeper than it looks" category (in other words, the snap doesn't do the climb justice). Definitely a low gear, high-cadence (or grinder), saddlenose-in-buttcrack climb At what speed did you nail it?
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Post by king on Sept 28, 2007 9:52:07 GMT 8
you practically have to put your saddle nose in your a**hole to make a climb like that! it's sooooo uncomfortable (note the facial expression) you'll want to get the climb over with as soon as possible! the hardest part of that "wall" is actually the run up to it. it's heavy moab sand so you can't build up speed... stick-e tires help! Gary! Nice pic - would make for excellent wallpaper...it definitely falls under the "steeper than it looks" category (in other words, the snap doesn't do the climb justice). Definitely a low gear, high-cadence (or grinder), saddlenose-in-buttcrack climb At what speed did you nail it?
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Post by 32by18 on Sept 28, 2007 10:30:11 GMT 8
you practically have to put your saddle nose in your a**hole to make a climb like that! it's sooooo uncomfortable (note the facial expression) you'll want to get the climb over with as soon as possible! Hence the need for chamois butter
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Post by Ben Dover on Sept 28, 2007 11:41:00 GMT 8
you practically have to put your saddle nose in your a**hole to make a climb like that! it's sooooo uncomfortable (note the facial expression) you'll want to get the climb over with as soon as possible! speak for yourself your highness, my king...i know some peeps here who actually enjoy having something up their a$$...you can read it on their faces too. ;D
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Post by Alphabolt on Sept 28, 2007 17:55:09 GMT 8
you practically have to put your saddle nose in your a**hole to make a climb like that! it's sooooo uncomfortable (note the facial expression) you'll want to get the climb over with as soon as possible! speak for yourself your highness, my king...i know some peeps here who actually enjoy having something up their a$$...you can read it on their faces too. ;D nyahahahhha! ya crazy fly! "whoopi would go : swats LAMOK ;D I ' d go : do it Roche so we get to see alien guts" there are alot of "uphillers" who love the steep climbs ..now we know one real reason why they like to do it again and again ;D ;D just kidding , folks
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Post by flipnidaho on Sept 28, 2007 19:55:23 GMT 8
the hardest part of that "wall" is actually the run up to it. it's heavy moab sand so you can't build up speed... stick-e tires help! Definitely a low gear, high-cadence (or grinder), saddlenose-in-buttcrack climb At what speed did you nail it? thanks dude... to climb that section, you have to hit it fast using a higher than you think gear for traction (32x32) and just grind it out at the top. Moab sandstone has great traction so the only thing you have to worry about is that your front end stays down (you don't have to worry about the rear tire slipping at all)...
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Post by boredmdmtber on Sept 28, 2007 23:23:38 GMT 8
nice pic flipnidaho. Moab rocks but Gooseberry a little closer to me. Usually I go by what my Garmin GPS says with regards to steepness. It measures grade percentage. More than 8% on a long climb is tough, more than 20% is like your "wall" at Moab.
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Post by flipnidaho on Sept 29, 2007 2:03:20 GMT 8
Gooseberry... Yummm... It's one of our favorite trails (along with Hurricane Rim and Jem). It's perfect for SS. When SJ and I hit Goose, we do a loop on our SS, go back to the truck, have lunch, then hit it with the 575's. We'll actually be there this X-Mas. We're hoping that Thunder Mtn will still be snow free as well as we haven't done that ride yet...
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Post by boredmdmtber on Sept 29, 2007 3:44:40 GMT 8
I'll be there next Sat.(first weekend of Oct.). If you want to go to Brian Head/Thunder Mountain, now is the time. Brian Head should be getting snow pretty soon. How long of a drive is it for you to Gooseberry? From Vegas its about 2-2 1/2 hours.
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