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Post by ultegra on Sept 4, 2006 18:37:41 GMT 8
during steep climbs, my front wheel tends to "wheelie" and i lose power. once that happens, i have to get off my bike and walk the rest of the climb. what am i doing wrong?
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Post by ronaldarca on Sept 4, 2006 18:52:11 GMT 8
sir, i believe your center of gravity is set way back. when climbing steeps, try adjusting your weight to the front wheel... rest your chest/shoulder area on top of the handlebar then pedal away san location niyo sir?
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Post by Dragunov on Sept 4, 2006 19:11:51 GMT 8
lean forward to shift your center of gravity
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Post by Ben Dover on Sept 4, 2006 19:39:20 GMT 8
in addition, i think the setup of a bike can also contribute to this...i.e. height of the handle bar in relation to the seat/saddle...long travel fork + low seat...i must pressume that you're on a seated position when this happens because its almost impossible when youre standing on a climb...your body will automatically center itself on the bike to be able to pedal properly. technique rin...i hate standing so i use the nose portion of the saddle on really steep climbs...pero ang mas importante practice and practice...i've seen downhillers climb the maarat wall with their DH bikes..if you are familiar with the geometry of those bikes u'll know what i'm saying. happy climbing
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Post by Alphabolt on Sept 5, 2006 1:02:20 GMT 8
yeah Tolits is right..know your bike first. BUT once that s dialed in..dont be afraid to arched your torso forward over your top tube.. look at your front wheel over your stem/Hbar ikanga You re going uphill brad so you wont endo doing it This helps you keep your front wheel on the ground Im also a fan of the saddle nosejob with my b u t t GOING UPHILL. It keeps my weight forward and allows for more power transfer assuming I still have the strength that is ...i hate standing pedaling unless its for DH
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Post by Alphabolt on Sept 5, 2006 1:04:40 GMT 8
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Post by jr on Sept 5, 2006 3:41:33 GMT 8
Also you move your butt near to the front end (tip)of the saddle when you are not standing and bent forward to let your front tire stay on the ground.
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Post by dayuhan on Sept 5, 2006 7:01:50 GMT 8
Your saddle may be set too low for climbing. Try raising it, even slightly, it can make a real difference.
The unintentional wheelie can also be a result of choosing too low a gear. It';s easy to do this when facing a steep climb, especially if you've often been told to set your gear before entering the climb to avoid shifting under tension. Run a gear or two higher, and put your muscles to work.
You can downshift while climbing without making a mess. If you're on a road and it's wide enough, run a couple of switchbacks (side to side) to reduce tension while you shift. Or pedal hard for a few strokes to gain momentum, then back off, reduce the tension, and shift.
As a last possibility, make sure you have the right fork for your frame. Some time ago I put a 5" travel fork on my old HT frame, thinking I'd gain all kinds of plush on the downhills, only to find that since the frame was designed for 3" of travel, the geometry was skewed and the front was too high to climb well. There are any number of adjustable-travel forks on the market that can help with this.
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Post by marcs on Sept 5, 2006 9:16:24 GMT 8
keep in mind though, that you have to get a good balance between your front and back. on loose climbs leaning too far forward will keep your front wheel down but at the risk of loosing traction in the back.
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Post by bongjumper on Sept 5, 2006 12:19:40 GMT 8
Just avoid using DH bike with long travel fork if your going to do steep climb...
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Post by ultegra on Sept 5, 2006 12:29:57 GMT 8
Thanks everyone!!! All good things... I hope I can practice them this weekend. BTW, am from QC. Only started MTBiking this year. Have been to Sta. Rosa, Maarat, Montalban, La Mesa and of course, Antipolo... yun nga, I have been trying to build some climbing skills and only have problems when the trails are steep. I can still pedal away but lose momentum once the front wheel gets a mind of its own and goes up.
Thanks again... am enjoying this new hobby... (I used to do a lot of road before. Ngayon mas enjoy ko na MTB and I haven't ridden my road bike in a long, long while.
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Post by grnhrnt on Sept 5, 2006 15:56:14 GMT 8
... (I used to do a lot of road before. Ngayon mas enjoy ko na MTB and I haven't ridden my road bike in a long, long while. And thus your handle "ultegra" at the rate your going you'll probably change your handle to "XT" hehehe... just kidding! Welcome to the world of mtb!
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Post by arcireyes on Sept 5, 2006 16:10:33 GMT 8
oi sir ultegra,
we carry the same passion for doing uphills as training, it is what mountainbiking is all about. btw i am also from qc and we have an active group that do regular weekend training rides. hope you can join the group. pm me and i can include you in the group's PM list to have updates on weekend training ride scheds.
see you around.
happy climbing!!
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Post by radical1962 on Sept 5, 2006 16:23:37 GMT 8
I don't understand it sometimes ... why we love the pain of the climb, right Arci?
That's the same with me when I started. I couldn't even stand the inclines of UP 4 years ago ... hingal aso! Then after some practice, some crazy guys brought me to Maarat Wall. I almost collapsed on my first try. I think I rested more than 7 times before the top. But keep on practicing and you will soon enjoy the masochistic side of MTBiking ... the climb!
Now? I really enjoy the climbs. The harder, the better. It not only builds strength, but a lot of character ... never give up, never surrender. Try timing yourself on the climbs and you would be surprised that you will slowly start to take less and less time.
Besides look at the payback of the climb ... DOWNHILL!!!
Happy trailing!
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Post by arcireyes on Sept 5, 2006 16:58:10 GMT 8
bobet, brad.
that's why we
Push........push........push...........!!!!
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Post by pazigrider on Sept 5, 2006 18:23:34 GMT 8
as there will always be some steep climbs and downhills on almost all trails - i think if posssible, for a more comfortable ride, having a fork with adjustable travel is highly desirable i have proven this with my 145mm fork with infinite travel adjust. during climbs i set the travel to the minimum - 80mm. and on downhills i bring it back to the max. travel of 145mm so for me - it really makes a difference having an adjustable travel fork - on climbs and downhills. and now i'm also thinking of upgrading my other fork with travel adjust ;D ;D ;D
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Post by mountainmark on Sept 5, 2006 18:50:58 GMT 8
I agree with all the insight of my PinoyMTBiker brothers, it always hapened to me during steep climb and notice that if you have 5" travel it will have a tendency of the front wheel of going up so what i did was put my weight on the fork to avoid pumping up the front wheel but if is still hapened one thing surely i can do get off my bike and push.. Adjustable travel is the best way. I spoke to one of the downhiller and he said that if your going down a steep climb, long travel fork may have a good job to avoid endo. so in short its the opposite of long travel on downhill. HOpe to have an adjustable travel fork soon with lock out.
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Post by ultegra on Sept 5, 2006 19:08:34 GMT 8
That's right ser grnhrnt! But it's now more SRAM than xt, he, he, he...
Push, push, push! The only way to go! Will see ho much higher I can set my saddle. Otherwise, repositioning my center of gravity should do the trick.
ser arcireyes, thanks. I would love to join your training rides. I can start with you but promise you'll wait for me at the top!
Maarat, here we go again!
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Post by pazigrider on Sept 6, 2006 9:26:57 GMT 8
HOpe to have an adjustable travel fork soon with lock out. hmmm... this fork must be something like a RS Revelation, Air with U-turn, 100-130mm travel adjust with remote lockout. let's go for it mark ;D ;D
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Post by grnhrnt on Sept 6, 2006 11:56:33 GMT 8
or a Talas 85-120mm RL like mine.
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Post by dayuhan on Sept 6, 2006 19:57:13 GMT 8
You probably know this already, but just in case... when raising the seatpost, make sure the post reaches into the seat tube at least to the bottom of the junction between the seat tube and the top tube. Leaving too little post in the seat tube can cause serious structural damage to the frame.
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Post by weekendrider on Sept 7, 2006 11:59:57 GMT 8
I don't understand it sometimes ... why we love the pain of the climb, right Arci? That's the same with me when I started. I couldn't even stand the inclines of UP 4 years ago ... hingal aso! Then after some practice, some crazy guys brought me to Maarat Wall. I almost collapsed on my first try. I think I rested more than 7 times before the top. But keep on practicing and you will soon enjoy the masochistic side of MTBiking ... the climb! Now? I really enjoy the climbs. The harder, the better. It not only builds strength, but a lot of character ... never give up, never surrender. Try timing yourself on the climbs and you would be surprised that you will slowly start to take less and less time. Besides look at the payback of the climb ... DOWNHILL!!! Happy trailing! Well said. Long uphill is a challenge, some quits without reaching the top. Others push themselves to the limit. Others though they can't ride it, never gives up and they just walk it. Walking in itself is also an exercise. So walking is better than quitting. Practice, practice, practice and you will get better not worse..
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Post by Alphabolt on Sept 7, 2006 23:56:43 GMT 8
Well said. Long uphill is a challenge, some quits without reaching the top. Others push themselves to the limit. Others though they can't ride it, never gives up and they just walk it. Walking in itself is also an exercise. So walking is better than quitting. Practice, practice, practice and you will get better not worse.. Now that s well said !
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Post by jr on Sept 8, 2006 0:47:50 GMT 8
Well said. Long uphill is a challenge, some quits without reaching the top. Others push themselves to the limit. Others though they can't ride it, never gives up and they just walk it. Walking in itself is also an exercise. So walking is better than quitting. Practice, practice, practice and you will get better not worse.. You cant do that here....The Ranger will give you ticket walking ;D ;D ;D ;D .
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Post by weekendrider on Sept 8, 2006 5:58:50 GMT 8
Well said. Long uphill is a challenge, some quits without reaching the top. Others push themselves to the limit. Others though they can't ride it, never gives up and they just walk it. Walking in itself is also an exercise. So walking is better than quitting. Practice, practice, practice and you will get better not worse.. You cant do that here....The Ranger will give you ticket walking . Hehehehehe, is that if you walk more than 15 miles per hour with your bike ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by mountainmark on Sept 8, 2006 12:57:43 GMT 8
HOpe to have an adjustable travel fork soon with lock out. hmmm... this fork must be something like a RS Revelation, Air with U-turn, 100-130mm travel adjust with remote lockout. let's go for it mark ;D ;D how much would it be sir rowel??
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Post by mountainmark on Sept 8, 2006 12:59:54 GMT 8
practice make it perfect...jogging can help a lot to strenghten the legs..
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Post by pazigrider on Sept 8, 2006 13:21:53 GMT 8
hmmm... this fork must be something like a RS Revelation, Air with U-turn, 100-130mm travel adjust with remote lockout. let's go for it mark ;D ;D how much would it be sir rowel?? @ marknot sure about the price - but i think the RS Revelation is around P17+++ better contact Pete - i know he'll give you good discount i'm still saving to buy a new or slightly used perhaps ;D
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Post by ultegra on Nov 29, 2006 13:02:21 GMT 8
It's been months since I posted this. I've been practicing and have been building skill and power. Thanks to all of you, am now able to climb more efficiently and have been able to redistribute my weight more during climbs.
See you around bros!
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Post by arcireyes on Nov 29, 2006 14:36:17 GMT 8
sir, when are we going to ride together? i am scheduling a half-day training ride on sat., dec. 09 with the group. i'll pm you once everything is organized. see you
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